GregW - you screwed up, there's no denying that or trying to reason your way out of a bad decision. Now it would be better to just admit you could have done a better job and handled it differently and you'd save face but your ***-backwad attitude in your subsequent posts just reasserts your screwed up mentality.

I'm glad we got guys like Fritz, Kevin, and Ramy to name a few that know how to handle transactions and the people they are dealing with...they make up for the bad ones like GregW.

Tim

 

Kevin and I both know you dont fit in that category and others that know who thay are on the boards.. So no worries there...

Dan

 

I was kidding !

 

I know...

 

Don't get me wrong, I do think the situation was handled dumb....I"m just saying I can see where both sides are coming from. Also, contray to popular belief, not everybody on this forum knows who kevin is. That's where I can say reputation doesn't mean anything. I ASSUME the OP in this thread knew him, but I don't know that for a fact....and really, what I've heard about kevin pertains to his credibility as an engine builder...that doesn't tell me anything about whether or not he always buys something...stuff comes up, money can get tight...who knows....so this is why I can see where the OP is coming from, but again, I think it was handled very unprofessionally, and that there should have been some better communication there and/or a little more patience. I do think the OP got a little greedy.

 

I agree with X-JaVeN-X

Just a seller trying to move his merch..

 

Seller trying to move his merchandise without any ethical thought processes in his brain...but I don't expect much from people nowadays since most have the morals of a slug and can't figure out how dumb they are since their perception is flawed to begin with.

Tim

 

I have dealt with Greg before and he is 100% honest. Money talks, isn't that the first rule of selling? Some guy of in cyber land, or Joe Smoe knocking on your door with cash in hand...not such a hard decision. I don't care if it is Kevin Landers or God (a lot of people on here think he is one and the same).

Here's his boys Kevin!

B

 

I wonder if this is the mutt that bought the stuff from the broken deal?...why, of course, he'd see nothing wrong with clear non-ethical business dealings...

 

After looking at your recent posts, I realize you usually don't have anything to say so I am not to offended by you just cranking up your posts with some garbage spewed forth at me.

B

 

I guess that's a "no"...

 

If everyone defending Kevin happened to live in TN, I could see a similarity in this situation.

 

I suppose you want a cookie now?



No, genius--the first rule in selling is honesty. You dont get to the money stage without demonstrating integrity and honesty. If you wanted to buy a part from someone, and then you found that they had neg feedbacks, what would YOUR money say when it talked?

Thanks for playing.

that would be because you lack the same integrity that your "boy" lacks. You see, in the real world, when you promise to hold a part for someone, and agree that they are the one with first shot, your word is supposed to mean something. NOW, that said, did your "boy" Greg commit to such a deal? You bet he did. Which makes all of your ridiculous "not a hard decision" talk useless. Not a hard choice, perhaps, but when you give your word NOT to do that, and you do it anyways, then it is on you.

No one twisted Greg's arm or held a gun to his head to get him to agree to this sale with Kevin. No one forced him to accept the terms of having a little patience for a few days. He did that all by himself. He appears to be a big boy now, why dont you go take lessons on that point? Or do you fully intend to keep your lockjaw planted firmly over his sack for the next three pages?

And I dont care who is involved either--your word is yoru word. PERIOD. he gave his word to Kevin, then wiped his *** with it. Shows you something about integrity, doesnt it? It showed me that with Greg as your seller, you can expect a firm lack of integrity. Thanks, but i'll pass.

no, a lot of people on here give credit and respect where it is due. Kevin has been going out of his way for this community for a very long time now. he has incurred more expenses and spent more time than you could possibly imagine. So, people support him, why are you so butt-hurt about it? They support him, myself included, because he has shown honesty and integrity--maybe if you would stop whining and actually get a clue, they would show you the same respect. Until then, dream on, hooker.

I think you meant to say you are swinging from Greg's boys....

 

Oh...my...God...

What a bunch of babies.

Here is how I see it:

-Greg screwed up by committing to Kevin instead of saying "First one with money gets it".

-Kevin screwed up by making such a big deal out of it. If Kevin can come on here and say no one has EVER backed out on him after committing to a deal then I'll offer my apologies to him.

In the perfect word, if you tell someone you are going to sell them something or buy something from them, you do. This is the cyber world and this is far from the perfect world.

I still say money talks, bullshit walks!

This has been blown WAY out of proportion for somebody just going back on their word. Guys stealing from honest buyers on here doesn't garner this much attention.

People, grow up!

B

 

that was the point all along. Congratulations on finally getting it. In your last post before this, it was all "Greg is 100% honest" and all that bullshit. Get a clue.

the problem with you is that you dont see someone going back on their word as a big deal. Clearly, Kevin does, as do many others in here. Sorry to tell you, but you are apparently in the minority on this one.

Tell me, what difference woudl it make if this happened before to Kevin? Does it make the action any less wrong just because some other moron did it too?

I am certain that Kevin has had others do similar things to him before--what you fail to grasp here is that Kevin expects only the level of integrity that he provides himself, nothing more. So, when you cry about him making a big deal out of something, you should really STFU and go take a look at the many many times when Kevin has gone so far out of his way to help others in here. There is quite simply no reason for anyone to give their word, then change their mind just because of money. There is even less reason for someone like you to make excuses for greg like you have.

this is one of the excuses I am talking about. That's bullshit. It doesnt need to be a perfect world for this guy to stick to his promise. Now youre just being a drama queen. Give it a rest, that rock dont roll here. you just basically told us that in "cyber world" it is acceptable for people to go back on their word. That's pure crap. I dont care if youre face to face, online, or talking into a can with a string tied to it--your word is your word. Then again, that has not once seemed to be very high on your priority list anyways.

AndI still say you dont have a clue. Let's rewind this, again, for the guy who rides the little bus. Is your helmet on too tight this evening?

1--seller and buyer agree to terms of the deal.
2--seller then finds someone who is willing to pay more.
3--seller then changes his mind, goes completely against his word, and doesnt even bother to tell his buyer until all is done.

If Kevin agreed to pay in three days, and those three days came and went with no payment, I would agree with you. But that was not the case. Like I said, if you found a seller with a questionable set of ethics, what precisely would your money say to you? Money talks, right? What would yours say then?

This clearly shows your total ignorance. Kevin could actually tell you differently--he could tell you about the money he sent to a scammer three years ago. He could also tell you that over those last three years, I personally tracked that scammer to a half dozen different forums, even more than a half dozen home addresses, using three different names, multiple phone numbers, different jobs, etc etc etc. And thanks to my efforts, several people got their money back from that piece of trash. As for those who are still waiting, the local authorities are finally taking an interest in Mr. Abalos.

OR, you could do a search for D-R Auto. You could see the efforts that have been applied there.

Next, you could check out Val/Preacher/Xavier_UK/Zondervan/protodermis.....yet another scammer that has gotten a shitload of attention.

After that, you can go look up info on rotoboy. This fruit loop actually scammed people, then signed up a second screen name, pretended to be a girl, and claimed to have done good business with himself. Thanks to my efforts and the work of many others, plenty of scammers have been dealt with and are still being dealt with. How many more examples would you like, here in "cyber world", before youre gonna get the hint? This thread is only 40 posts long....I can point you to individual threads on these scammers that have more PAGES of posts than this one has posts. you lose.

Class dismissed. have a nice day

 

Oh...my...God...

the beepster got totally owned....TWICE...

 

going nowhere fast....