Problem with str8ryd
10-10-09, 11:31 AM
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Problem with str8ryd
This is getting out of control. Posts are being hijacked and a single PM hasent been received since my last.
Over a year ago I received a package. A package I was not expecting. I did not know the seller, the addresses, or why I was receiving a front R1 lip. The box was BADLY damaged and my post lady insisted I open it to make sure nothing was missing from the holes torn in to it. A corner of the lip was sticking out. I only took delivery of it because she could not ship it back in its current condition.
That day I made a thread in the Cali section where the addresses originated from. For months and countless bumps I never heard a thing. One random day I got a message from Str8ryd claiming it was his and that he would like it back. I agreed, the addresses matched. But I had no box that would fit it and told him it would have to wait. I got distracted with job hunting and my 2yr old, summer, ect- there are no real excuses. Life got in the way of doing the right thing, like it does many times. I pm'd him after getting a few for updates of where it was, and told him the truth. There are no excuses, i had just been to busy to send it and could not find a box. This was a few weeks back.
I still have not found a box and I get on the forum today to find hijacked threads, harassing messages, and over all poor conduct on his behalf. Yes this is my fault, yes I will ship it back, just like I said I would, but this behavior is unacceptable when I have not received a PM since my last. I am a reasonable, honest, and straight forward person who has helped countless members in this community. To be called a liar, a scammer, and to be harassed in threads where I am helping people is completely unacceptable. I am still despite this poor choice of confrontation over this issue, going to ship out this lip, just like I was going to before finding this onslaught of harassment, as soon as I find a box that fits it.
Trying to contact me my posting in dormant feedback threads that havent been posted in for nearly 2 years is not the way to contact me.
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Its going to UPS Tuesday or Wednesday and they can find a box.
Over a year ago I received a package. A package I was not expecting. I did not know the seller, the addresses, or why I was receiving a front R1 lip. The box was BADLY damaged and my post lady insisted I open it to make sure nothing was missing from the holes torn in to it. A corner of the lip was sticking out. I only took delivery of it because she could not ship it back in its current condition.
That day I made a thread in the Cali section where the addresses originated from. For months and countless bumps I never heard a thing. One random day I got a message from Str8ryd claiming it was his and that he would like it back. I agreed, the addresses matched. But I had no box that would fit it and told him it would have to wait. I got distracted with job hunting and my 2yr old, summer, ect- there are no real excuses. Life got in the way of doing the right thing, like it does many times. I pm'd him after getting a few for updates of where it was, and told him the truth. There are no excuses, i had just been to busy to send it and could not find a box. This was a few weeks back.
I still have not found a box and I get on the forum today to find hijacked threads, harassing messages, and over all poor conduct on his behalf. Yes this is my fault, yes I will ship it back, just like I said I would, but this behavior is unacceptable when I have not received a PM since my last. I am a reasonable, honest, and straight forward person who has helped countless members in this community. To be called a liar, a scammer, and to be harassed in threads where I am helping people is completely unacceptable. I am still despite this poor choice of confrontation over this issue, going to ship out this lip, just like I was going to before finding this onslaught of harassment, as soon as I find a box that fits it.
Trying to contact me my posting in dormant feedback threads that havent been posted in for nearly 2 years is not the way to contact me.
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Its going to UPS Tuesday or Wednesday and they can find a box.
10-10-09, 11:36 AM
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I can't believe you're serious with this Marc. I have ALL our PM's saved. I have contacted you countless times without you even responding to me. I have contacted you even mentioning that I would take the necessary measures to get what's owed to me back. You still ignored me. I still had yet to post any thread regarding the matter and now you post this?!? WoW.
10-10-09, 11:46 AM
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I agree...it wasn't. I still felt it was better than posting a thread about it. Anyways, I won't go in to this further for now. Hopefully, we can just resolve this amicably. Sorry for the trouble and thanks for trying to fix this. I'll try fixing the mess I created.
10-10-09, 11:48 AM
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Thank you for working with me. Two people working against eachother never gets anywhere. I do want to take this chance to publicly apologize. Like I said, it was my fault for not shipping it.
If a mod reads this, would you clean up our mess?
If a mod reads this, would you clean up our mess?
10-11-09, 07:36 AM
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Alright guys, I'm shutting this thread down, but only until this afternoon. When I get back home I will go through all of this mess and clean up what needs cleaning.
In the meantime, I feel the need to say this--get to a shipping place and get a box. And then send it out. Regardless of how you feel about him posting in other threads, you havent met your promised obligation. And let me tell you like this--I have not read all the PM's but on the face it looks like str8ryd tried many times to get you to resolve this BEFORE posting in any threads. The mere fact that you did not give those attempts the attention they deserved is what led to str8ryd feeling like he had no other choice.
I have been at the feedback/buying/selling game for years, and to be honest, if I made repeated attempts to contact you without any results, I would have posted about this in other threads/forums myself. If you do not honor your promise, then why wouldnt you expect someone to try to get your attention any way they can?
Anyways, shutting this down pending further review later today. In the meantime, I ask and expect that the two of you can work this out in a timely fashion.
Jon
In the meantime, I feel the need to say this--get to a shipping place and get a box. And then send it out. Regardless of how you feel about him posting in other threads, you havent met your promised obligation. And let me tell you like this--I have not read all the PM's but on the face it looks like str8ryd tried many times to get you to resolve this BEFORE posting in any threads. The mere fact that you did not give those attempts the attention they deserved is what led to str8ryd feeling like he had no other choice.
I have been at the feedback/buying/selling game for years, and to be honest, if I made repeated attempts to contact you without any results, I would have posted about this in other threads/forums myself. If you do not honor your promise, then why wouldnt you expect someone to try to get your attention any way they can?
Anyways, shutting this down pending further review later today. In the meantime, I ask and expect that the two of you can work this out in a timely fashion.
Jon
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10-12-09, 07:30 PM
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OK, now that I have the chance, let's address this.
Wow.....that's a nice story. But what you neglected to tell everyone is that this "one random day" took place OVER TEN MONTHS AGO. He contacted you first about this in the first week of December.....LAST YEAR. There is nothing "random" about keeping him waiting nearly an entire year for his part back! Let's tell thw WHOLE story, please, not the version that you think will save you some honest responses about your lack of action.
He then messaged you near the end of April asking for an update....and you had no news for him. On 4/26/09, you said "it will be sent out tomorrow".
Fast forward ANOTHER four months....and on 8/30/09, you AGAIN said "it's being shipped tomorrow".....
And youre here, crying because he went into a thread to get your attention? Are you for real? You string the guy along with nothing but false promises for nearly a year, and you say HE acted unreasonably? I think you had better recheck that one....seriously.
Stop right there--you STILL think he should be PM'ing you? WHY? Look how effective that has been for him this whole year! He played along for over 10 months, sending you PM's the whole time....and STILL you have his part! What reason could there possibly be for him to think that nothing more than PM's is needed?
YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN, STOP CRYING AND FIX IT.
Where did he say "youre a scammer and a liar"? Oh, wait, he didnt. He posted that you are a POSSIBLE SCAMMER because up to this point YOU have done nothing to give him any reason to think otherwise. And he asked why you have kept lying--YOU DID LIE. You promised him multiple times that you were sending it out the next day! Did you follow through on ANY of those promises? I didnt think so.
Apparently, PM's arent the way to contact you either--look at how well they worked for this guy.
Look--bottom line, you need to send his part back ASAP. If there isnt a tracking number posted by the end of the week for this lip being sent on its way back to him, I will consider suspending your user account until there is one. I am sorry if you think that is harsh--but you havent left me any choice because you have broken every promise you have made in nearly a year to this member. PLEASE--fix this and we all can go on with life. Your choice....
That day I made a thread in the Cali section where the addresses originated from. For months and countless bumps I never heard a thing. One random day I got a message from Str8ryd claiming it was his and that he would like it back. I agreed, the addresses matched. But I had no box that would fit it and told him it would have to wait. I got distracted with job hunting and my 2yr old, summer, ect- there are no real excuses. Life got in the way of doing the right thing, like it does many times. I pm'd him after getting a few for updates of where it was, and told him the truth. There are no excuses, i had just been to busy to send it and could not find a box. This was a few weeks back.
He then messaged you near the end of April asking for an update....and you had no news for him. On 4/26/09, you said "it will be sent out tomorrow".
Fast forward ANOTHER four months....and on 8/30/09, you AGAIN said "it's being shipped tomorrow".....
And youre here, crying because he went into a thread to get your attention? Are you for real? You string the guy along with nothing but false promises for nearly a year, and you say HE acted unreasonably? I think you had better recheck that one....seriously.
I still have not found a box and I get on the forum today to find hijacked threads, harassing messages, and over all poor conduct on his behalf. Yes this is my fault, yes I will ship it back, just like I said I would, but this behavior is unacceptable when I have not received a PM since my last.
YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN, STOP CRYING AND FIX IT.
I am a reasonable, honest, and straight forward person who has helped countless members in this community. To be called a liar, a scammer, and to be harassed in threads where I am helping people is completely unacceptable.
Trying to contact me my posting in dormant feedback threads that havent been posted in for nearly 2 years is not the way to contact me.
Look--bottom line, you need to send his part back ASAP. If there isnt a tracking number posted by the end of the week for this lip being sent on its way back to him, I will consider suspending your user account until there is one. I am sorry if you think that is harsh--but you havent left me any choice because you have broken every promise you have made in nearly a year to this member. PLEASE--fix this and we all can go on with life. Your choice....
10-13-09, 01:02 PM
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Dude have you read the thread? The problem is that the guy has been sitting on his hands not responding or doing anything. That's not right. This is the rx7club, we should treat each other with more respect than that. I wouldn't even treat a stranger like that. Spyder seems like a good guy but come on bud, you gotta get this going.
10-13-09, 08:45 PM
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So wait...if the part shows up at his house for no reason of his own doing, why should he be liable for doing a damn thing about it (if he doesnt have time, money, or motivation)? I mean, sure, the seller should get his part back, I am not suggesting the buyer keep it. I am suggesting the buyer call the shipper and have the part picked up at the recipients house. Why should he be out his gas and his time, cost of a box, tape, and padding, all because of a seller mistake that had nothing at all to do with him?
Put it back in the same box and let the seller and shipper handle the rest if the shipper is going to be a dick about it after he made the mistake (not you) and you are still willing to return it to him anyway.
Further, I do not see how the moderators can hold the recipient responsible for someone else's screwup. It's not as if he asked for this to happen, or intentionally set out to scam someone. The seller sent it to him of his own free will. Again if the seller wants it so bad, he should have a shipper or a local friend pick the damn thing back up.
Sounds like BS all the way around.
Put it back in the same box and let the seller and shipper handle the rest if the shipper is going to be a dick about it after he made the mistake (not you) and you are still willing to return it to him anyway.
Further, I do not see how the moderators can hold the recipient responsible for someone else's screwup. It's not as if he asked for this to happen, or intentionally set out to scam someone. The seller sent it to him of his own free will. Again if the seller wants it so bad, he should have a shipper or a local friend pick the damn thing back up.
Sounds like BS all the way around.
I have always and I mean always acknowledged that I made a mistake. I completely own up to it still. It happened and it was an unfortunate oversight on my part. All along for nearly a year now I've been thanking Marc for being a stand-up guy in regards to his cooperation and help in this matter. I never even wanted to mention anything publicly about this matter as I had hoped we could just work it out. The problem was that he stopped responding to me altogether recently and for awhile had made lots of false promises.
In regards to the OP being out anything...perhaps this information wasn't posted which is why you brought this point up, BUT I've been telling Marc all along he will not be out anything for his trouble. I would reimburse him all costs associated with returning the part. In fact, up until recently I had even planned on sending him more for the trouble as a gesture of good faith.
Oh, and since you're trying to address all aspects of this transaction...I even told Marc to give it to another local and that I would pay them to ship it to me. I basically gave him every opportunity and option hoping that we could move forward from this unfortunate situation.
The trouble I have with this whole ordeal is that Marc was so willing to help and be a generally great guy in doing so. Like the OP even said...he originally made a thread to determine whose item it was so that he could return it. He was willing to return it. Why not return it then if you yourself are saying you will and would like to?!?
I didn't even want to make this crap public
. I didn't post up all the information in this thread because I didn't create it. Marc decided to post something about me. You don't have all the information that Marc, the moderators, and I do. Maybe you should hold off on calling people dicks 
10-13-09, 08:54 PM
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Marc...you know what man...do whatever you want at this point. If you ship out, I'll pay you. If you don't...whatever. I never realized making a damn mistake in a community full of RX-7 owners would lead to such hassle and trouble. I'm done with this bullshit.
Moderators: Do as you see fit. I don't want his account suspended or anything as I was the one who made the mistake in the first place. I can own up to my faults.
Later,
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Moderators: Do as you see fit. I don't want his account suspended or anything as I was the one who made the mistake in the first place. I can own up to my faults.
Later,
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10-14-09, 05:51 AM
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I mean, sure, the seller should get his part back, I am not suggesting the buyer keep it.
I am suggesting the buyer call the shipper and have the part picked up at the recipients house.
Why should he be out his gas and his time, cost of a box, tape, and padding, all because of a seller mistake that had nothing at all to do with him?
In the meantime, I dont see anything that was posted at any time that said we expected the guy to pay out of his pocket for str8ryd to get his part back. NO ONE claimed that was his responsibility. Further, "the spider" did not once at any time in this thread complain about paying for anything. He hasnt incurred a single cost over this issue to this point.
Put it back in the same box.....
Over a year ago I received a package. A package I was not expecting. I did not know the seller, the addresses, or why I was receiving a front R1 lip. The box was BADLY damaged and my post lady insisted I open it to make sure nothing was missing from the holes torn in to it. A corner of the lip was sticking out. I only took delivery of it because she could not ship it back in its current condition.
And to think, youre in here calling someone else a dick, when you couldnt even comprehend that from the first post? Thanks for playing.
and let the seller and shipper handle the rest if the shipper is going to be a dick about it after he made the mistake (not you) and you are still willing to return it to him anyway.
Further, I do not see how the moderators can hold the recipient responsible for someone else's screwup. It's not as if he asked for this to happen, or intentionally set out to scam someone.
THE.
THREAD.
This guy promised to send it back multiple times--that puts him on the hook for responsibility. NO ONE forced him to do that--he did it, as you say, "of his own free will". Now, kindly step aside and let this situation be resolved without any more ignorant comments and unwarranted insults.
The seller sent it to him of his own free will. Again if the seller wants it so bad, he should have a shipper or a local friend pick the damn thing back up.
10-14-09, 07:03 AM
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Marc,
Easiest thing is to go to the UPS Store and have them toss it in a box and send it out. I know they have boxes that are 12x12x48 (friend sent me a sway bar in one). I don't know how long the lip is offhand, but that should be plenty big. If not, two boxes could be slid end over end to create something longer. I'm sure you would like to get it out so that you don't have to worry about it anymore and Riz will be happy to get it back.
Marc is a good guy. I've met him before when I was living in Oregon (was about 5 years ago, not sure if he remembers) and I have bought a few parts off him way back as well. I know Riz is also a good guy based on what I have seen on the site. It is just a matter of getting the thing boxed up and sent out.
Marc: just get it boxed and sent out ASAP (over lunch or something). Riz said he would cover the costs. You just need to find 15 or 20 minutes to drop it off and the whole thing will be over.
Easiest thing is to go to the UPS Store and have them toss it in a box and send it out. I know they have boxes that are 12x12x48 (friend sent me a sway bar in one). I don't know how long the lip is offhand, but that should be plenty big. If not, two boxes could be slid end over end to create something longer. I'm sure you would like to get it out so that you don't have to worry about it anymore and Riz will be happy to get it back.
Marc is a good guy. I've met him before when I was living in Oregon (was about 5 years ago, not sure if he remembers) and I have bought a few parts off him way back as well. I know Riz is also a good guy based on what I have seen on the site. It is just a matter of getting the thing boxed up and sent out.
Marc: just get it boxed and sent out ASAP (over lunch or something). Riz said he would cover the costs. You just need to find 15 or 20 minutes to drop it off and the whole thing will be over.
10-14-09, 09:18 AM
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What a colossal pain the ***. I've dealt with Riz numerous times and had zero problems, even when I shipped him damaged parts and he shipped them right back to me.....sorry you have to go through all this crap.
10-14-09, 01:46 PM
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Marc...you know what man...do whatever you want at this point. If you ship out, I'll pay you. If you don't...whatever. I never realized making a damn mistake in a community full of RX-7 owners would lead to such hassle and trouble. I'm done with this bullshit.
Moderators: Do as you see fit. I don't want his account suspended or anything as I was the one who made the mistake in the first place. I can own up to my faults.
Later,
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Later,
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No need to get bent out of shape.
10-15-09, 12:55 PM
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Well, if I did that I'd technically be paying three times to ship at this point and the part isn't even worth that much. I tried suggesting the most reasonable solution on all ends. Not gettin' bent out of shape. Just figured two reasonable people could and should have resolved this long ago.
10-18-09, 01:44 PM
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I have met Riz on a couple of occasions and find him to be honest and a very nice guy. Riz, forget it. You are dealing with someone who is just plain lazy.
10-19-09, 07:50 PM
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Tracking was MMMgs60hb478x.
It was actually dropped off to be shipped last week, but the tracking number I was given never worked. I drove back in today to find the lip sitting on a shelf behind the counter with NO label attached. Thanks UPS Store. Had the manager package it and write up a new tag, in front of me.
I called Rizwan as I was leaving UPS, even told him I would happily pay for the shipping since it was my fault. He wouldnt let me. We agree this was both of our faults, rightfully more so mine. All is good
As far as I am concerned its done and resolved. I never said in my original post that this was in no way my fault. It completely was. When you loose one of your best friends, have a child, are searching for a job, and a family to take care of, I am sorry but its takes precedence over something that was miss shipped to me. If you search, you will see the DAY I got it, I posted a "who just shipped me a part" thread in the cali section.
As a community member however you do NOT go in to random threads and completely derail the topic, pissing of other people for no reason. This is the only thing that bugged me. It was handled badly by both parties, and I do not think either of us are ever going to let something like this happen again. Like I said though, its done. If someone does not want to buy something from me because of this, then that's what happens. Rizwan is a good guy in my book.
If the mods would clean up our mess, it would be greatly appreciated by both of us.
I am tempted to say if my PM's worked half the damn time, this would never have happened. They were fine before that crash last year, and before the new owners took over. Case in point- the last 2 PM's I got shows they were sent days ago, and it showed up in my inbox today. PM's I send never get to people either. Yet some how, other PM's work fine. I asked probably 12 months ago in the forum feedback section what was going on and never got a answer. Thats why I have my email and phone number posted in multiple threads.
It was actually dropped off to be shipped last week, but the tracking number I was given never worked. I drove back in today to find the lip sitting on a shelf behind the counter with NO label attached. Thanks UPS Store
. Had the manager package it and write up a new tag, in front of me. I called Rizwan as I was leaving UPS, even told him I would happily pay for the shipping since it was my fault. He wouldnt let me. We agree this was both of our faults, rightfully more so mine. All is good
As far as I am concerned its done and resolved. I never said in my original post that this was in no way my fault. It completely was. When you loose one of your best friends, have a child, are searching for a job, and a family to take care of, I am sorry but its takes precedence over something that was miss shipped to me. If you search, you will see the DAY I got it, I posted a "who just shipped me a part" thread in the cali section.As a community member however you do NOT go in to random threads and completely derail the topic, pissing of other people for no reason. This is the only thing that bugged me. It was handled badly by both parties, and I do not think either of us are ever going to let something like this happen again. Like I said though, its done. If someone does not want to buy something from me because of this, then that's what happens. Rizwan is a good guy in my book.
If the mods would clean up our mess, it would be greatly appreciated by both of us.
I am tempted to say if my PM's worked half the damn time, this would never have happened. They were fine before that crash last year, and before the new owners took over. Case in point- the last 2 PM's I got shows they were sent days ago, and it showed up in my inbox today. PM's I send never get to people either. Yet some how, other PM's work fine. I asked probably 12 months ago in the forum feedback section what was going on and never got a answer. Thats why I have my email and phone number posted in multiple threads.
10-19-09, 11:14 PM
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Its not fun and this has been one of sadly a few things I have neglected until it got bad, not a good idea!
Thanks for the best wishes, Its difficult- even more difficult on the community side when every local shop is blowing up your friends cars and they want to know when yours is opening, haha.
I do think Rizwan and myself agree, we are both good guys, things just got out of hand. This thread was my mistake and I honestly forgot to do one last post asking to lock it, as I had immediately contacted Rizwan via PM, with my phone number and we had worked it out before anyone had replied. I was a bit ticked when I made it, that other random people were mad because they had to be involved, when searching my posts could easily have come up with my email/phone number.
So for future reference for ANYONE having a issue with another member, search their posts, esp Forsale/WTB. There usually is another way to reach them.
Thanks for the best wishes, Its difficult- even more difficult on the community side when every local shop is blowing up your friends cars and they want to know when yours is opening, haha.
I do think Rizwan and myself agree, we are both good guys, things just got out of hand. This thread was my mistake and I honestly forgot to do one last post asking to lock it, as I had immediately contacted Rizwan via PM, with my phone number and we had worked it out before anyone had replied. I was a bit ticked when I made it, that other random people were mad because they had to be involved, when searching my posts could easily have come up with my email/phone number.
So for future reference for ANYONE having a issue with another member, search their posts, esp Forsale/WTB. There usually is another way to reach them.