BAD SELLER: Gonzz
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How did this get so out of hand? I've prucahsed several items from him and they all can fine. When someone quotes an item as "shipped", that what it means, shipped. If you want insurance you tell them to put it on. Pleasse do not assume that its included. How many EBay items have you purchased wherei tincludes it? You always need to ask for it if you want it.
Gonzz is a good guy in my book!
Gonzz is a good guy in my book!
I'm not attempting to hop into the negative energy that's very obvious in this thread, I don't need to be told how much of an idiot or loser I am from either side, I'm just stating what I believe good business ethics to be.
On that note, maybe some of you should take into consideration that one of these guys has been a member since 2002, with mulitple previous sales...
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You know what's funny is I was just looking at a pic of your car 5 min ago...
While I have seen Gonzz post before and believe he isn't as bad a guy as these people are making him out to be, I do believe that when something is advertised as "shipped", it should be insured by the seller, unless specified IN THE FS THREAD that insurance is not included. PMs can be altered when you post them on here for everyone to see, a thread post can not. And as I said before, shitty packaging is just plain lazy. If that is the case and the seller knows he packed an item like ****(that insurance won't cover), a refund should be in order. The fact that Gonzz says he sent blue assemblies, and the thread starter is calling them black, seems kind of fishy to me... someone is lying...
I'm not attempting to hop into the negative energy that's very obvious in this thread, I don't need to be told how much of an idiot or loser I am from either side, I'm just stating what I believe good business ethics to be.
On that note, maybe some of you should take into consideration that one of these guys has been a member since 2002, with mulitple previous sales...
I'm not attempting to hop into the negative energy that's very obvious in this thread, I don't need to be told how much of an idiot or loser I am from either side, I'm just stating what I believe good business ethics to be.
On that note, maybe some of you should take into consideration that one of these guys has been a member since 2002, with mulitple previous sales...
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Thats funny. Gonzz, thats the "flamethrower".
This is al internet ganster crap. One word vs another, never to be solved. Next time get it all in writing, including insurance. I've had many "properly" packaged items come like crap, so it may not be packaging.
Hey goodfells, I'm I that much taller then you?
This is al internet ganster crap. One word vs another, never to be solved. Next time get it all in writing, including insurance. I've had many "properly" packaged items come like crap, so it may not be packaging.
Hey goodfells, I'm I that much taller then you?
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While I have seen Gonzz post before and believe he isn't as bad a guy as these people are making him out to be, I do believe that when something is advertised as "shipped", it should be insured by the seller, unless specified IN THE FS THREAD that insurance is not included. PMs can be altered when you post them on here for everyone to see, a thread post can not. And as I said before, shitty packaging is just plain lazy. If that is the case and the seller knows he packed an item like ****(that insurance won't cover), a refund should be in order. The fact that Gonzz says he sent blue assemblies, and the thread starter is calling them black, seems kind of fishy to me... someone is lying...
I'm not attempting to hop into the negative energy that's very obvious in this thread, I don't need to be told how much of an idiot or loser I am from either side, I'm just stating what I believe good business ethics to be.
On that note, maybe some of you should take into consideration that one of these guys has been a member since 2002, with mulitple previous sales...
I'm not attempting to hop into the negative energy that's very obvious in this thread, I don't need to be told how much of an idiot or loser I am from either side, I'm just stating what I believe good business ethics to be.
On that note, maybe some of you should take into consideration that one of these guys has been a member since 2002, with mulitple previous sales...
however, once again, this does not address the fact that gonzz told this seller one thing once the problem was discovered, and then changed his story entirely to favor his side of the argument later on. That's dishonest, and in the interest of fairness, no matter what you think of gonzz, there should be no dishonesty in such a transaction, from either side. That is inexcuseable in my book.
As far as the insults, take a good hard look at the way this thread has gone. Do you see anyone insulting gonzz in the manner he is trying to trash others? Anyone bringing his parents into the mix? What about what he owns? Anyone? There is a reason why I dont follow suit there, and thats because this thread is here for a purpose. Talking about someone's dad isnt it. I point-blank addressed a specific thing he did and asked him to address it--would YOU trust someone you didnt personally know with your money in the future if you saw them handling such a point as poorly as he is?
There is no need for that **** and there never was--NOWHERE did I pull that garbage on him. In the end, everyone can see the lie and how he refuses to address it.
On a final note, with all due respect, this forum has progressed to the point where a person's past reputation is not indicative of their future reliability. More and more we have seen people who were trusted sellers, turn around and screw someone. Hey, it sucks but it happens. And in this case, some honesty would have gone a long way. Too bad for him that insulting anything under the sun is more important than addressing the issue like a man.
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Is Rich in the pic?
Thats funny. Gonzz, thats the "flamethrower".
This is al internet ganster crap. One word vs another, never to be solved. Next time get it all in writing, including insurance. I've had many "properly" packaged items come like crap, so it may not be packaging.
Hey goodfells, I'm I that much taller then you?
This is al internet ganster crap. One word vs another, never to be solved. Next time get it all in writing, including insurance. I've had many "properly" packaged items come like crap, so it may not be packaging.
Hey goodfells, I'm I that much taller then you?
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Thats funny. Gonzz, thats the "flamethrower".
This is al internet ganster crap. One word vs another, never to be solved. Next time get it all in writing, including insurance. I've had many "properly" packaged items come like crap, so it may not be packaging.
Hey goodfells, I'm I that much taller then you?
This is al internet ganster crap. One word vs another, never to be solved. Next time get it all in writing, including insurance. I've had many "properly" packaged items come like crap, so it may not be packaging.
Hey goodfells, I'm I that much taller then you?
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And I sure as **** am not hiding behind a computer, I've been in situations in Iraq as a convoy commander that would make most people **** their pants......
Edit: That's me in the red shirt.
Timothyandygoh, can you please post pics of the broken parts?
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Gonzz,you are completely fighting with people over nothing pertaining to this subject.i really do not recommend getting into "e-brawl" with a very respected member such as rich. If the buyer shows proof of what he is claiming...this thread made take a completely different direction. Just wait it out...
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Duchebag: Do you understand English.. GET THE *** OUT OF HERE.. Do i have to type it in every fuking language? Are you that fuken stupid? Your a fuken moron...
Again, the insurance is not the issue. Insurance, as already stated, will not address a claim when the cause of damage is improper packaging. The perception by the buyer, well, I agree with you on that part, but I also think that sellers need to be telling their buyers if they are not including insurance, for the same reason. Both sides should be covering all the bases, and in this case neither side did.
however, once again, this does not address the fact that gonzz told this seller one thing once the problem was discovered, and then changed his story entirely to favor his side of the argument later on. That's dishonest, and in the interest of fairness, no matter what you think of gonzz, there should be no dishonesty in such a transaction, from either side. That is inexcuseable in my book.
As far as the insults, take a good hard look at the way this thread has gone. Do you see anyone insulting gonzz in the manner he is trying to trash others? Anyone bringing his parents into the mix? What about what he owns? Anyone? There is a reason why I dont follow suit there, and thats because this thread is here for a purpose. Talking about someone's dad isnt it. I point-blank addressed a specific thing he did and asked him to address it--would YOU trust someone you didnt personally know with your money in the future if you saw them handling such a point as poorly as he is?
There is no need for that **** and there never was--NOWHERE did I pull that garbage on him. In the end, everyone can see the lie and how he refuses to address it.
On a final note, with all due respect, this forum has progressed to the point where a person's past reputation is not indicative of their future reliability. More and more we have seen people who were trusted sellers, turn around and screw someone. Hey, it sucks but it happens. And in this case, some honesty would have gone a long way. Too bad for him that insulting anything under the sun is more important than addressing the issue like a man.
however, once again, this does not address the fact that gonzz told this seller one thing once the problem was discovered, and then changed his story entirely to favor his side of the argument later on. That's dishonest, and in the interest of fairness, no matter what you think of gonzz, there should be no dishonesty in such a transaction, from either side. That is inexcuseable in my book.
As far as the insults, take a good hard look at the way this thread has gone. Do you see anyone insulting gonzz in the manner he is trying to trash others? Anyone bringing his parents into the mix? What about what he owns? Anyone? There is a reason why I dont follow suit there, and thats because this thread is here for a purpose. Talking about someone's dad isnt it. I point-blank addressed a specific thing he did and asked him to address it--would YOU trust someone you didnt personally know with your money in the future if you saw them handling such a point as poorly as he is?
There is no need for that **** and there never was--NOWHERE did I pull that garbage on him. In the end, everyone can see the lie and how he refuses to address it.
On a final note, with all due respect, this forum has progressed to the point where a person's past reputation is not indicative of their future reliability. More and more we have seen people who were trusted sellers, turn around and screw someone. Hey, it sucks but it happens. And in this case, some honesty would have gone a long way. Too bad for him that insulting anything under the sun is more important than addressing the issue like a man.
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Timothyandygoh, can you please post pics of the broken parts?
I agree, this needs to be settled.
I'm done. Rich, you coming to the Bear Moutain meet this Saturday (just to highjack a little)
I agree, this needs to be settled.
I'm done. Rich, you coming to the Bear Moutain meet this Saturday (just to highjack a little)
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Gonzz,you are completely fighting with people over nothing pertaining to this subject.i really do not recommend getting into "e-brawl" with a very respected member such as rich. If the buyer shows proof of what he is claiming...this thread made take a completely different direction. Just wait it out...
Hell, you and I got into it in your thread, didnt we? Did I pull **** like this? insult your dad, post up bullshit pics?? Sure, I am a rude jackass, but at least the focus stayed on the problem at hand. When this dipshit learns to do the same, maybe that will earn some respect. In the meantime, respect is earned, and no matter how long someone is here, they are still just as responsible for their actions as anyone else. When I asked you about points in your transaction, you were likewise at least decent enough to argue the issue, not run around talking out your *** all day long. This dumbass isnt. That is why there is no respect. Damn, the moron even follows me around into other threads and hijacks them just to watch his e-wee-wee grow like a chia pet....so please, dont talk to me about how this guy is so well respected.
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someday, when youre not a widdle boy anymore and youre all grown up, you might just have a forum of your very own, like this one. And if you do, at that time, you will have all the freedom in the world to tell anyone you want to get out of any thread you like, and it just might mean something.
Sorry to tell you, in this forum, you dont have that ability. Dont cry over it, just man up and address the points. Seriously, is that really so hard for you? Why cant you just knock this **** off and discuss the issue that this thread is about? If you have nothing to hide, why cant you address it?
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Roller, me and you did get into a little bit, but it stayed on subject and died. I didnt say gonzz was right, i didnt say he was wrong. For all we know, this guy could he lieing out his ***, and gonzz is COMPLETELY right(dont rip me up, just throwing stuff out there) I would like to see the pics, and we will go from there. Let it get back on subject.
another thing...i dont think you read my post right.(or you read it before the edit, i mixed names up) I was referring to gonzz getting into it with rich, not you.
another thing...i dont think you read my post right.(or you read it before the edit, i mixed names up) I was referring to gonzz getting into it with rich, not you.
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You might be too slow to realize, but you YOURSELF labeled the transaction as "HORRIBLE".
I just LOVE how I paid you for a part, haven't received ANYTHING for 2 months, and finally now YOU'RE the one pushing me to start a negative feedback thread.
You have got to be the best damn seller on this forum. No questions asked
P.S. Sorry guys I wasn't tryin' to start this in your thread. I'll try and stop now unless Merlin feels the need to keep pushing me forward.
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While I'm not calling TAG a liar, take in mind that nobody knows him, he's been here for a few months, and people who know Gonzz are actually standing up for him. TAG, as I said, this is not singling you out, I am just pointing out the fact that you are new to the forums. That said, just because 1 person is new and the other is a "veteran"(lol), doesn't make the new person wrong OR a liar... I'm just trying to point out some of the obvious facts that it really appears that people have overlooked... I'd be extremely pissed too if people started shitting on my good name, I probably wouldn't resort to direct name calling, but it isn't something I would just ignore...
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You might be too slow to realize, but you YOURSELF labeled the transaction as "HORRIBLE".
I just LOVE how I paid you for a part, haven't received ANYTHING for 2 months, and finally now YOU'RE the one pushing me to start a negative feedback thread.
You have got to be the best damn seller on this forum. No questions asked
P.S. Sorry guys I wasn't tryin' to start this in your thread. I'll try and stop now unless Merlin feels the need to keep pushing me forward.
I just LOVE how I paid you for a part, haven't received ANYTHING for 2 months, and finally now YOU'RE the one pushing me to start a negative feedback thread.
You have got to be the best damn seller on this forum. No questions asked
P.S. Sorry guys I wasn't tryin' to start this in your thread. I'll try and stop now unless Merlin feels the need to keep pushing me forward.
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I don't believe that people just "turn bad". Where I can see a person making errors once or twice, I highly doubt he just woke up and said "I've got a good reputation now, let me see how many people I can **** over".
While I'm not calling TAG a liar, take in mind that nobody knows him, he's been here for a few months, and people who know Gonzz are actually standing up for him. TAG, as I said, this is not singling you out, I am just pointing out the fact that you are new to the forums. That said, just because 1 person is new and the other is a "veteran"(lol), doesn't make the new person wrong OR a liar... I'm just trying to point out some of the obvious facts that it really appears that people have overlooked... I'd be extremely pissed too if people started shitting on my good name, I probably wouldn't resort to direct name calling, but it isn't something I would just ignore...
While I'm not calling TAG a liar, take in mind that nobody knows him, he's been here for a few months, and people who know Gonzz are actually standing up for him. TAG, as I said, this is not singling you out, I am just pointing out the fact that you are new to the forums. That said, just because 1 person is new and the other is a "veteran"(lol), doesn't make the new person wrong OR a liar... I'm just trying to point out some of the obvious facts that it really appears that people have overlooked... I'd be extremely pissed too if people started shitting on my good name, I probably wouldn't resort to direct name calling, but it isn't something I would just ignore...
but this goes so far beyond someone "shitting on his good name". gonzz is so hung up on **** that he drops into threads where he has no involvement at all, just to hijack the thread and make personal attacks. And all that started in a thread that took place LAST YEAR. I have had no contact with this guy ever since....and before I even posted in this one, he was acting like a little bitch in someone else's thread. So, again, when it comes to respect, it should be easy to see why I dont have any for him. He's still butt hurt because I called him on **** last year?? WOW....some people really need to get a clue.
And no, I dont think that he intentionally set out to screw anyone. I never even came close to saying as much. The problem I mentioned is that he made a claim to cover his ***, and that turned out to be a lie. A person who genuinely feels he did nothing wrong will not feel the need to lie to cover his ***....dont you agree?
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Roller, me and you did get into a little bit, but it stayed on subject and died. I didnt say gonzz was right, i didnt say he was wrong. For all we know, this guy could he lieing out his ***, and gonzz is COMPLETELY right(dont rip me up, just throwing stuff out there) I would like to see the pics, and we will go from there. Let it get back on subject.
another thing...i dont think you read my post right.(or you read it before the edit, i mixed names up) I was referring to gonzz getting into it with rich, not you.
another thing...i dont think you read my post right.(or you read it before the edit, i mixed names up) I was referring to gonzz getting into it with rich, not you.
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Where did he make a claim that was a proven lie? This isn't a sarcastic question, I just don't feel like reading all of these pages again to find out where it was he lied about something and was called out on it, I must have missed it.
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I have dealt with Gonzz before, but not as a buyer, as a seller. He bought some shirts from me in order to raise money for our dearest friend GuitarJunkie, which passed away. I also met Gonzz in person at the funeral and he seemed like a real cool guy. He also donated a lot of money in return for some decals in Dave's memory so I can assure you that Gonzz wouldn't try to rip someone off for $140, which isn't even that much. That said, everyone else here talking **** should just stop because it seems like no one really knows the TRUE FACTS about what's going on. It seems like people are just coming in here and trying to argue about something to make themselves seem better or something. And for all those people, why get in an argument with someone over something that doesn't even involve you? Stay out of their business if you really have nothing good to say.
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You might be too slow to realize, but you YOURSELF labeled the transaction as "HORRIBLE".
I've got a PM from you that said otherwise.
I just LOVE how I paid you for a part, haven't received ANYTHING for 2 months, and finally now YOU'RE the one pushing me to start a negative feedback thread.
And I just love the fact that I shipped out your part, UPS sent it to the wrong destination, yet you blame that on me. No matter that I got a return number for it and it should be on it's way back to you already. You also seem to think that somehow I'm to blame for it not being mailed back to you yet, even though it's NOT EVEN IN MY POSSESSION.
You have got to be the best damn seller on this forum. No questions asked.
I completely agree with you.
P.S. Sorry guys I wasn't tryin' to start this in your thread. I'll try and stop now unless Merlin feels the need to keep pushing me forward.
So now it's my fault that you keep posting in this thread as well. I guess EVERYTHING is my fault. In fact, it's my fault that the OP's headlights are cracked. I happen to use the same shipping company that screwed them up, so it's obviously my fault as well.
I've got a PM from you that said otherwise.
I just LOVE how I paid you for a part, haven't received ANYTHING for 2 months, and finally now YOU'RE the one pushing me to start a negative feedback thread.
And I just love the fact that I shipped out your part, UPS sent it to the wrong destination, yet you blame that on me. No matter that I got a return number for it and it should be on it's way back to you already. You also seem to think that somehow I'm to blame for it not being mailed back to you yet, even though it's NOT EVEN IN MY POSSESSION.
You have got to be the best damn seller on this forum. No questions asked.
I completely agree with you.
P.S. Sorry guys I wasn't tryin' to start this in your thread. I'll try and stop now unless Merlin feels the need to keep pushing me forward.
So now it's my fault that you keep posting in this thread as well. I guess EVERYTHING is my fault. In fact, it's my fault that the OP's headlights are cracked. I happen to use the same shipping company that screwed them up, so it's obviously my fault as well.