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pre mix with e85?

Old 08-01-12, 05:31 PM
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pre mix with e85?

should i be pre-mixing with e85 or is there natural oils in there that will lube those seals?
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Old 08-01-12, 06:39 PM
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I would, and do premix running e85. Make sure if you do premix, you find a compatable oil, because most are not.
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^what do you use?
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Klotz benol.
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+1 on the Klotz Benol, I deleted my OMP and just premix in the tank 1oz to 1 gallon of E85. Car has been a beast with no issues pushing 810RWHP @ 26 psi on a full bridge (2 rotor). Plus it doesn't separate, at least I have not had any separation issues.
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afawaterpolo what kind of turbo are you runing?
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Old 08-02-12, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Arthur3328 View Post
afawaterpolo what kind of turbo are you runing?
Borg Warner S475 with a T4 housing. Based on our numbers from the Motec it looks like we will max the turbo out right at 900ish RWHP on just E85 with a 85% duty cycle right around 30 pounds of boost.
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What injector sizing are you using. I have the same turbo sitting in front of me. Any major issues you run into?
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What injector sizing are you using. I have the same turbo sitting in front of me. Any major issues you run into?
I'm running 2- ID2000's for primaries and a total of 4- Bosch 1680's (2- 1680's on the secondary rail, and 2- 1680's on the third rail). Running 3 in tank Bosch 044 pumps, each one supplies it's own rail with 2 injectors.

No issues at all, idles perfect at 1600 rpm (full bridge)
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street car or drag car? and what afr did you tune for.
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street car or drag car? and what afr did you tune for.
It's a street car, for now.

We tuned using lambda (since we are using E85) but AFR wise it comes out to about 11:1, it is extremely safe, running 11.5 plugs all around.

As far as premix we are using the Klotz Benol, really likes it and have had great results in previous engines using E85.
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awesome! thanks for all the info man ! thats great
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Maxima Castor927, should be readily available at any motorcycle shop.
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8 to 10 oz per 5 gallons of fuel for me.
Lucas two stock oil or klotz benol
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1oz per gallon KLOTZ 2-CYCLE SUPER TECHNIPLATE RACING OIL. Smells like an RC car
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Originally Posted by Neutron View Post
1oz per gallon KLOTZ 2-CYCLE SUPER TECHNIPLATE RACING OIL. Smells like an RC car
I use the same thing except I mix it a little heavier than that. Around 1.5 OZ to a gallon
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Gone as high as 12/14 oz per 5 gallons. No smoking, did not foul the plugs.
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you guys find your eyes water sometimes if the wind blows the exhaust back in the car?
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