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Old 07-04-10, 09:21 AM
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Make Your Own Ethanol!

Might come in handy someday!
http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/id2.html
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Interesting!
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This is nothing new. I have my TTB Form 5110.74 permit from the ATF to make my own and it is free. Takes about a month to get.

http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511074.pdf
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Originally Posted by Davin
This is nothing new. I have my TTB Form 5110.74 permit from the ATF to make my own and it is free. Takes about a month to get.

http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511074.pdf
How difficult do you feel that it is to make the ethanol consistent enough to be a viable race fuel? I love the idea of cheap high octane gas and am set up to run e85 in the car already.
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Originally Posted by rcracer_tx
How difficult do you feel that it is to make the ethanol consistent enough to be a viable race fuel? I love the idea of cheap high octane gas and am set up to run e85 in the car already.
Follow Popcorn Sutton's guide to making it. Best thing to do
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I found a guy who makes E98 locally....tried some in my car to pass emissions.
Passed with flying colors!
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bump, thank you for the link kind sir
Old 03-09-12, 01:20 PM
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Follow Popcorn Sutton's guide to making it. Best thing to do
Sounds like it could have to be a project I might try. What is the regulations on selling it and to whom could you sell the excess to easily? I think it would be pretty easy to make your money back producing E85 depending on the regulations/taxes on sale of it.
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make your own methanol! blow your house up!

2 birds with one stone.

in almost every state you need a license to produce and a license to store it including registration with the ATF. it is a hazardous and combustible substance, it is also an alcohol which is subject to ATF(alcohol, tobacco and firearms) regulations. as alcohol is a controlled substance and also is taxable, in some states even 100% illegal to produce.

it's basically "moonshine".

is it worth it? probably not. maybe one day, but not now.

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Originally Posted by Karack
make your own methanol! blow your house up!

2 birds with one stone.

in almost every state you need a license to produce and a license to store it including registration with the ATF. it is a hazardous and combustible substance, it is also an alcohol which is subject to ATF(alcohol, tobacco and firearms) regulations. as alcohol is a controlled substance and also is taxable, in some states even 100% illegal to produce.

it's basically "moonshine".

is it worth it? probably not. maybe one day, but not now.
Haha, generally Texas laws are pretty relaxed on subjects like this and I was going to buy an acre of cheap land on the outskirts of the DFW area to produce some if I tried. you can get an acre for a couple grand that will appreciate in value so its not a real risk. No way would I do this on my residence, but in a small scale it could bring in a little extra money as well as eliminate my need for buying e85 to run the car on. just a thought.
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A guy I know from drag racing heats his shop with waste oil. He was getting hassled over storing a large quantity of flammable hazardous waste in an improper facility. His solution was to buy a used box truck with a blown engine and slap an appropriate hazmat placard on it. He got the truck for a song. it even had a hydraulic lift gate so loading and unloading is easy. You could probably do the same thing for methanol/ethanol.storage
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Its easy to make.

Here's what we did: MurileeMartin.com » Blog Archive » RX-7 Features Engine-Heated Moonshine Still, Garbage-Disposal-Based Margarita Machine

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THAT is AWESOME!!!!!
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Man I wish Canada had something similar to that 5110.74 permit. Here if you produce Ethanol, for any intent and purpose, it's taxed as drinkable alcohol, and you need a corresponding permit to distill on a provincial level. Looks like it's backyard moonshining for me.

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P.S. you guys should check out "Alcohol can be a Gas" by David Blume. I've only watched a presentation so far, and it's pretty good information.
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