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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:19 AM
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Y/N turbo timer

is it good to run a turbo timer or not, if yes for how long ????
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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if it's an aftermarket oil cooled only timer then it's good. if it's stock twins, you're sorta beating a dead horse. they're water cooled.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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i say no

alot of people have trouble with them. some people report them causing electrical problems and not functioning properly. and how hard is it to just wait 2 min for your car to cool down? to me its a waste of a $100 and unneeded weight...
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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I have a turbo timer on my FD, but I only use it to leave my fan on after I turn the car off... its the same as the 'fan mod'..
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Turbo timers are toys for kids that don't know any better. A complete waste of time, space, and money. Don't get one.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 4CN A1R
i say no

alot of people have trouble with them. some people report them causing electrical problems and not functioning properly. and how hard is it to just wait 2 min for your car to cool down? to me its a waste of a $100 and unneeded weight...
It's not nessecerally a good idea to let your car idle in the driveway either. The ideal thing to do would be to drive around at low RPMs out of boost for the last 5 minutes of your trip.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Just drive easily - no boost! - for a couple minutes before shutdown.

If you want to cool things after shutdown, get an electric water pump and a timer to run the pump and fans for a few minutes.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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I only have one in my car because it came with it, never really used it other than when I want to warm up the car and lock the door, other than that I just drive slow while getting to my destination to cool things down.

Thanks for reminding me I will be taking mine off too...yeah more things to do in the winter...lol...
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by adam c
Turbo timers are toys for kids that don't know any better. A complete waste of time, space, and money. Don't get one.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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what about those who are still sequentual..? its always boosting, i always wait 2 min no matter wat

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Just drive easily - no boost! - for a couple minutes before shutdown.

If you want to cool things after shutdown, get an electric water pump and a timer to run the pump and fans for a few minutes.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4CN A1R
what about those who are still sequentual..? its always boosting, i always wait 2 min no matter wat
It's only boosting if you're on the throttle. My friends FD was sequential and I didn't have any problems keeping it out of boost for the cooldown period.

Well no problems other than the fact that I wanted to try and break the land speed record, but that's a personal issue
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Thanks, my car also came with one I usually turn it off and just let the fans run for a minute
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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only good thing they are for if you have the twins is that once the cars off you can turn on the electronics and keep the fans running
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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My personal car came over with one fitted by the previous owner (some guy in japan who also replaced all the interior lights & park lights with blue neons.. ) But while I took the glowing lights off & ran over them, I hesitated & left the turbo timer on, because I could shut the car off, yet leave the fans running. Later when I got the electric water pump, I wired it to stay on too, so the coolant doesnt 'heat-soak' in the turbos (ie, it keeps moving, & transfers heat away from the turbos) Most people say that you dont need the timer, because the twins are water cooled. But hot water sitting idle in the turbos when the car is shut down, just keeps heat in the turbos. Better to keep the water moving I say..
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:28 AM
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how hard is it to install an electric water pump?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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well i have one that i got for 20 bucks and it helps me in the mornings when im letting the car warm up before i go to work. my timer can do a max of 9:59 so in the mornings i usually turn on the car and set if for like 7 minutes while i go take my dogs to pee, grab my uniform and boots (pt gear if needed that day) and anything else that i might need. im usually done before the timer is done and i get back in the car and wait til its good to go. here on base you are not allowed to exit a vehicle with the keys still inside and the engine on.....so i kinda cheat and set the timer (keys are out so....he he ) if i need to drop off a movie....pick up something from a friends shop...or anything that will only take a minute or two. the timer comes in handy for me in a couple of ways.

my skyline (well my wife drives it) came with one and she has accidentally forgetten her keys inside the car several times. The car stays on because of the timer so she sometimes doesnt know if the keys are still in or not.

besides that, yes, it would be easy to just drive the car calmly before shutting it off.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FDdragon
well i have one that i got for 20 bucks and it helps me in the mornings when im letting the car warm up before i go to work. my timer can do a max of 9:59 so in the mornings i usually turn on the car and set if for like 7 minutes while i go take my dogs to pee, grab my uniform and boots (pt gear if needed that day) and anything else that i might need. im usually done before the timer is done and i get back in the car and wait til its good to go. here on base you are not allowed to exit a vehicle with the keys still inside and the engine on.....so i kinda cheat and set the timer (keys are out so....he he ) if i need to drop off a movie....pick up something from a friends shop...or anything that will only take a minute or two. the timer comes in handy for me in a couple of ways.

my skyline (well my wife drives it) came with one and she has accidentally forgetten her keys inside the car several times. The car stays on because of the timer so she sometimes doesnt know if the keys are still in or not.

besides that, yes, it would be easy to just drive the car calmly before shutting it off.
LOL, yep the bashing of turbo timers has totally made them more affordable than a gauge for keeping track of the voltage. Mine is smaller than a gauge and I too use mine for going it to drop off a package or grabbing a cold drink. Anyone getting rid of an Apexi TT let me know.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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You really don't need a turbo timer. It's just another fancy gadget. Take the one offered by Apexi (the one I own). It is able to readout theoretical A/F ratio via O2 sensor inputs and can readout battery voltage or O2 sensor voltage. It also has a handbrake safety feature.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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shhh!!! dont tell him not to get one, buy mine!

haha, i just pulled mine off my car, it's not very useful. plus dumb cops think its some emissions bypass electronics (i got hasseled for it)

its just another piece O tech junk sitting in a pile of porno mags and crumpled beer cans in my garage (sry no pic)
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FutileLover
........its just another piece O tech junk sitting in a pile of porno mags and crumpled beer cans in my garage (sry no pic)
Now that's where a turbo timer belongs !!!!!
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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im confused now, i thought a turbo timer was to allow turbos to get oil fed while the turbine is still spinning. As when the engine is turned off, the oil is stopped being fed to the turbo, thus more wear on the turbo. I dont have one, but i can see how they could be beneficial.

I usually let the car idle in the driveway with the bonnet open for a few mins. I leave the bonnet open for about 30min as well.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BigWillieStyles
im confused now, i thought a turbo timer was to allow turbos to get oil fed while the turbine is still spinning. As when the engine is turned off, the oil is stopped being fed to the turbo, thus more wear on the turbo. I dont have one, but i can see how they could be beneficial.
No, turbo timers were designed to allow oil to continue to flow while the turbo ran at a lower rate to cool. The issue was shutting down a turbo while it was extremely hot as the oil left in would coke. The FD stock turbos are water cooled which solves the oil coking issue so a turbo timer is of no use in the sense they were created.

Why Use a Turbo Timer?

Turbocharger shafts can spin at incredible rates which obviously generate a lot of heat. In order to control this heat the turbo is cooled by circulating oil around the shaft. After driving your car, and especially after hard driving, it is recommended that your car be idled for a period of time to allow the oil to take the heat out of the turbocharger.

It is important to do this in order to prevent premature turbo wear and failure. Failing to reduce the temperature of the turbo could result in the oil around the shaft "coking". Coking occurs when a turbocharger is not properly cooled down, and the oil that normally lubricates the center cartridge heats up and forms solidified oil deposits. This can potentially plug your oil lines and cause oil "starvation". This coking effect is probably the number one cause of turbo failure.
That was the reason water cooled turbos were designed was to remove the oil coking issue.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by grimple1
if it's an aftermarket oil cooled only timer then it's good. if it's stock twins, you're sorta beating a dead horse. they're water cooled.
do you mean it's bad for the stock twins, or simply useless?

I already knew about the oil cooking issue, which doesnt happen in watercooled turbos, but a turbo timer was the only modification on my FD when I bought it I thought it would have some kind of use
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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simply useless, i had one with that came with the car and used it like that untill i learned about the water cooled thing then i just drove normally (no boost for the last couple miles) and turn it off and turn the electronics to make the fans come on then but the turbo timer to use that way.. recently i took it out waste of money and space.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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i dont see how a small turbo timer would be a waste of space. most people put the tt under the dash and out of the way so it shouldnt be a problem or taking up critical space.

i wouldnt say they are useless because they can serve other purposes and if you are able to get one for cheap then its not a bad buy.

seriously, its not that bad. most of the cars on all these sites are daily drivers who spend thousands of dollars of parts that they dont need. yeah, they have the power but unless you are frequently going to the track, then the money, time and parts or not worth it because you can really put them to full use on regular streets. the same with a tt, you might not need it but it comes in handy once in a while and it costs WAY less than most other parts. thats my two cents.
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