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4k or close to 5k with no core exchange is a killer deal for a 100% brand new JDM engine. A disadvantage for some people is that it won't have mods like enlarged ports or coolant passage modifications etc but they say stock motor is good for up to 700hp so it depends on the user to decide how important these mods are to him/her.
Banzai are you in charge of following up with Ray on this? I bet some people would love to wait for the next batch of engines that don't have rust in them after Mazda stopped using pure water when testing the engine.
There is not any follow up, Mazda is not changing their procedure, they told Ray to "tell people to flush the engines".
Some pics from the last one we tore down, we also found big chunks of loose cast iron in the coolant channels. We let Ray know, he passed the info on to Mazda, which said to flush the engines. We suggested they put a filter on their supply line and use distilled water. http://www.banzai-racing.com/2011_cu..._breakdown.htm
I thought the original post said these are brand new. That is not new rotors or housings or side plates. For $4000 brand new would be a steal. Here in canada the housings are $1100 a piece. The complete gasket kit is labeled as unavailable/discontinued etc.
I had a motor build three years ago with new housings and all hard peices and bearings etc and I shudder at what it actually costs. Each year I call for parts the prices have jumped up so high. I remember at one time housings at mazda canada were $340 a piece. LOL..
"I thought the original post said these are brand new. That is not new rotors or housings or side plates. For $4000 brand new would be a steal. Here in canada the housings are $1100 a piece. The complete gasket kit is labeled as unavailable/discontinued etc.
I had a motor build three years ago with new housings and all hard peices and bearings etc and I shudder at what it actually costs. Each year I call for parts the prices have jumped up so high. I remember at one time housings at mazda canada were $340 a piece. LOL.. "
they look new to me... and i dont know who you talk to for parts where your at but I suggest you contact Adam @ rx7specialties/rotaryengine.com in the future for parts (they're in Canada). He sells rotor housings for a lot less than $1100/each
Call any mazda dealer for housings. Im pretty sure they are around $1000+ each.
So do they run these engines? Looks like there is wear on the side plates. Could be reflection but those rotors look like cleaned.
So being new engines and 4K is deal in my opinion. To bad you can't buy that here.
There is no wear on the side irons, they are brand new. Follow the link to see all the parts cleaned off. Even on the rotors there are the paint markings
Thanks for the update! This might not be completely related to the topic, but do you guys know what the best way is to get a crate engine in Europe? Or perhaps, new OEM irons/housings etc. Shipping must be a pain in the *** from the US to the EU!
Thanks for the update! This might not be completely related to the topic, but do you guys know what the best way is to get a crate engine in Europe? Or perhaps, new OEM irons/housings etc. Shipping must be a pain in the *** from the US to the EU!
Look up Rotor Torque in the UK. They can get you a crate motor from Mazda UK.
Thanks for the update! This might not be completely related to the topic, but do you guys know what the best way is to get a crate engine in Europe? Or perhaps, new OEM irons/housings etc. Shipping must be a pain in the *** from the US to the EU!
there are affordable options to ship it. It all depends how much you sre rushing. IR performance has shipped a few to Europe over the years
Anyone tearing down new engine blocks from Mazda encounter the same issues with rust and gunk in the coolant passage ways?
Does flushing without a teardown work?
I just tore one down last month , ( looks to have been manufactured about 4 months prior), and it appears they use some form of coolant in them now. There was a tiny bit of rust but not much at all really.
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I just tore one down last month , ( looks to have been manufactured about 4 months prior), and it appears they use some form of coolant in them now. There was a tiny bit of rust but not much at all really.
Only minor complaints I have are they were kinda sloppy /excessive with the rtv.
then since it doesn't come with a oil level sender they just put tape over it. And a bunch of oil leaked out of the bottom of the box during shipping. The bottom of the box still held tho when lifting it.
great deal tho
Last edited by KompressorLOgic; 08-06-18 at 09:13 PM.
Only minor complaints I have are they were kinda sloppy /excessive with the rtv.
then since it doesn't come with a oil level sender they just put tape over it. And a bunch of oil leaked out of the bottom of the box during shipping. The bottom of the box still held tho when lifting it.
I have handful of brand new 13brew motors on order scheduled to arrive between October and November. Please contact me if you are interested as there is a good chance they will all sell before they even get here. These are the absolute most cost effective way to get all new parts. I've sold over 30 of these over the past few years and disassembled a bunch for upgrades. Everything is always 100% brand new. Clearancing is more than acceptable. If you are worried about a little residue in the coolant passages, flush your coolant system after initial startup (You should be anyway to get all the stuff out of your 25 year old heater core).
I am interested but what's the cost at? As it is a main factor. Thank you
Price is $4599 Plus Shipping. Which runs $250-$450 in the United States. We can ship anywhere Worldwide.
Contact us directly for purchase and we can solidify your place in our queue
I've torn down quite a few of these engines by now for portwork, oil mods, different apex seal clearancing etc.
The benefit is that they're 100% brand new, down to the oil pump, oil pan, needle bearings, and even the front cover hardware. They're an amazing value, for those not aware you can get them from Ray Crowe for just over $4000 not including the core charge and shipping. Give him a ring at the Malloy Mazda parts desk at (888) 533-3400
The only real downside is this (and the reason for this thread): Mazda runs the motors to ensure proper compression and adequate coolant passage pressure. Problem is that they appear to use straight water, or some other concoction that leads to severe rusting and deposit formation in the coolant passages. Typically the bottom passages are the worst of course, but the crap that I have had to scrape/flush out is VERY nasty. Some of it black and crystalized, some of it rust-colored and gelatin-like.
I know this thread is worthless without pics, but for now you'll have to just be patient and trust me
There is another minor downside in that they don't clearance the side seals as tight as I'd like, but Mazda spec is very generous and they're all within spec so not something to lose sleep over.
Anyway, for those dropping the cash for these engines..... congrats, but if you're installing them as-is definitely pay attention to flushing your cooling system a few times
ik ik im like 10yrs+ late but where could you buy that engine?
03-07-12, 02:57 AM
