the_glass_man

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Hey guys, think I might have solved the crappy lighting problem check this link out. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...466465&r=0&t=0

Both high and lows, $hit I don't care what they cost, I'm tired of guessing where I'm going at 90 at night. Looks like I have two flashlights for headlights or somehting.

What do you guys think?

Flybye

I think it's more money than I have right now to spend on my lighting system :p

It DOES look good, though. It just fits RIGHT in where our stock bulbs go?

the_glass_man

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I'm going to e-mail the guy to find out more info. I belive they are supposed to be a drop in replacement (with some adjusting obvioulsy required)

dclin

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Only issue may be that the blinders/reflectors/light shields on the HID bulbs may contact the light shield in the lamp assembly.

Glad someone finally got around the 'dual filament' problem of HID H4 conversions.

the_glass_man

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Yes, it does look promising, I'm going to e-mail them and see if they know how it will work in the FD. Think I just found my new X-mas gift for myself.

AlienSoul

Sweet!
Post what you find. That would be great if they fit. I would just make sure that there is enough room around them. I have heard of some conversions melting the lenses and housings, 'cause the HIDs heat up quite a bit more.

dclin

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Thats an old wives tale. The quantum leap that HID is over traditional filament bulbs - is that it has no filament.

Where as much as 90% of the power that goes into a filament bulb is wasted as heat, its almost the opposite with HID bulbs - which emits light thru an arc created between two electrodes within a capsule of gas, typically Xenon.

Therefor, it is much more efficient (that is, much more of the power that goes into the bulb is converted to light, and not heat).

HID lamps do get hot of course, but no where near that of traditional lamps. While I never measured the heat emitted by my HID 35w driving lamps vs my PIAA 55w traditional lamps, I can tell you that I could almost keep my fingers on the lense of the HID set, where as the traditional lamp set would burn my skin off, hehe. In terms of light output, there was no comparison though. 35w of HID was at least double that of 55w traditional bulb.

The voltage between the ballast and the bulb though, is extremely high. Enough to turn someone 'extra crispy'. That is why true automotive grade HID ballasts have shock sensors that disable the ballast in cases of wrecks - so that emergency workers don;t have an 'enlightening experience' (I kill myself! ).

Sold my HID driving lamps to A-spec (David) though, as that they were almost useless down there in the bumper opening. They were so bright that I had to aim them down, almost defeating its purpose. I plan to get a headlamp kit later on and convert that to HID.

AlienSoul

Thanks dclin

I don't have any experience with HID but I just remember reading about them. It is good to know that HID is a safe option. Does someone make a HID conversion that uses the clear covers instead of the stock pop-ups?

Freaky Monkey007

Someone makes HID's just for the 7. I dont remember where they are but its on here somewhere. Ill take a look around and c if i can find it.

nocab72

http://www.hids4less.com sells a HID kit for the FD, which replaces the standard halogen bulb plus some extra electronics to power the HID system.

They told me they will have a hi/low package in the next 3 - 4 months and will offer upgrades to anyone purchasing now.

I bought their stage 2 kit (6000k) this week, should have it next week, I'll let you guys know how it works out!

k

suganuma

wow....those look pretty nice
wish i had the $750 laying around to buy them.....and 6000k
it says that thats brighter than sunlight.....

A-Spec

don't confuse the temperature rating as the brightness. The temperature rating is the color of the light emitted. The regular 4300k HIDs are closest to the color of sun light while 6000ks are getting purplish. The 7000k advertised on that auction is going to be BLUE! and I'm sure they just put a cheap coating on them which does nothing but decrease the light output! What's importatnt is the Lumens rating which tells you which is emitting more light.

For those interested the phillips 6000k actually emit less light than the traditional 4300k. It is clearly stated in the Philips catalog...

do a little research on them, don't get fooled by false advertisment of "higher the temperture rating the better"
http://www.lighting.philips.com/foru...6/wwwforum.cgi
here's a good place to ask questions and find information about HID.

David

PS DClin, I'm trying to figure out where to put the HIDs now, since I gave up and got the East bear kit. hey wanna hook me up on a set of carpet??

suganuma

my bad
i was waiting for someone with mroe "light" knowledge to educate me
i thought the # was in reference to candle power or brightness

so A-Spec....any recomendations??

Diamond Geeza

nocab72 - Definitely let us know and post some pics. I'm interested in the as well, but want to see how they look and work. I would prefer the more purplish look (like the Porsche's) than the blue....but not at the expense of good light output.

sheaa

I talked to a guy once in a store regarding hi and low beams in HID. Just how the heck can it switch back and forth? He said they made the HID bulb on a motor which moves back and forth when you flash, hence changing the beam pattern.

I thought it's kind of interesting.

The question for me is with the headlight housing for our cars, how well will the reflectors handle??

nocab72

Stage I (4300k white) v/s Stage II (6000k purplish)

I figured if I was going to spend this kind of $$$ to upgrade the stock lighting I might as well throw a bit of rice-ee-ness in for an extra 20%.

Even if I loose 10% of the light output going to the Stage II, it HAS to be 2 times better than the stock lighting, plus the purplish will get noticed more than white.

I believing in splitting my $$$ 1/2 go, 1/2 show, but that is just me.

This is more, 1/2 help me see where I "go" and 1/2 show...

A-Spec

yeah if you get HIDs the regular 4300 will be bluish already(depends on the light housing, not sure about the RX), but ppl will know they are HIDs right away(well at least those that care). The phillips Ultinon(6000k) bulbs are pretty nice, I like the color but they are not as bright. So it is up to you on which you want to purchase, like nocab27 says, either one will be a LOT brighter than the stock lighting.

Avoid those that claims 5000k or 7000k, all of them I've seen have a blue coating on them. Phillips only made 4300 and 6000k models and I believe Osram only made 4300.

as for beam switching, I've also seen ones that move the covers that you see on the H4 conversions, there was also another one that actually had a second, regular filament light for the high beam.

David

A-Spec

oh and also get one that has the H4 based molded and that it is not just a reuglar D2s/D2r bulb with a converter ring glued on there.

David

3rdGenLuvr

Just for clarifciation, if it was mentioned already I apologize I dont have the time right now to read every word above. Looking at HID4less' site I found this> ** H4/9003 is a dual filament application, therefore high beams are subject to loss of use because of this.**

So NO dual filament yet for us!

A-Spec

actually the ebay one looks good. Other than it's claim of 7000k the kit looks good. It doesn't seem like it is a regular hid bulb with a adapter glued on, and the High beam capability looks promising. Someone should invest in it and report back on how it works!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...468600&r=0&t=0

David

nocab72

3rdGenLuvr - when I was ordering my HID's from hids4less, they were very upfront with telling me that I would be loosing my hi beams now, but said they are scheduled to have a hi/low upgrade package available in the next 3 - 4 months.

Since my FD isn't my primary car, I won't be driving it much anywhere I could use hi beams anyways...so it is not a big loss for me at this time.

K

jimlab

I'd be a little wary of any kit that comes in Zip-loc bags...

A-Spec

jim, you are right! hahahah didn't notice that!! I like the hi/low switching mechanism though
http://www.meikai-g.co.jp/velias.htm
here's another hi/low switch device....

David

nocab72

WOW! What a difference! The HID's have a funky beam pattern, but they are about 102387412376401x brighter than the OEM lights!

HID on passenger, OEM still on driver side

nocab72

Example of funky beam pattern.

My garage is a yellowish color and the HID still looks white on it.

On the left is OEM, on the right is HID.