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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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Question will an Engine Torque brace eliminate Short Shifter rattles ?

I've searched and saw one or two people who said their rattles cleared up with an engine torque brace. Anyone else experience this ??

I have a B&M short shifter that just went in and has a slight rattle, but enough to annoy me. It is not rubbing anything in the tranny tunnel and I've read through this http://www.mazdatrix.com/shiftrat.htm

Also, I'm wondering how true it is where some people say they've switched from B&M to say Mazdatrix and the noise went away. According to the Mazdatrix link above, ALL of the shifters they tested randomly rattled.

Any info. is appreciated.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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My B&M rattled with a Razo shift **** and engine brace; probably too light in mass and so resonance frequency matched?

switched to OEM shift **** and it reduced like 80%. There is still gear whine you can hear though. The action of the B&M seems crisper and alot quicker than the Mazdaspeed one. But the downside is the rattle and gear whine.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Well, I've talked to several people who have the B&M with no rattles. I did switch back to the stock shift **** and still rattles. Thanks for the info. on the engine brace.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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I have a Feed brace and a Gotham short shifter with a stock ****. Mine rattled for a while but eventually went away.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rated R1
I have a Feed brace and a Gotham short shifter with a stock ****. Mine rattled for a while but eventually went away.
Really ?? I've read this too, but how long did it take for it to go away ? My rattle is not extremely loud. Just a bit of a rattle in 1st and 2nd gear, then a bit in 5th as well.

So are you saying that you have Zero rattle now ? Thanks R1.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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no rattle here...
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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My B&M rattled like crazy when I first got my car. I realigned my powerplant frame and it fixed it completely. I think that's all you need to do. No need to spend any money...just time.

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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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My Mazdaspeed short shifter vibrates more than the stock one, and whines above 100mph.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Did you guys mount the plastic or aluminum bushing on the bottom ball of the stick on your B&M's or Mazdaspeed shifters?
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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B&M shifter, RX-8 shift **** and feed-style torque brace and it rattles only at certain rpm while accelerating. I reused the plastic bushing, somebody said if replaced with a new one it'll stop rattling but I haven't done it yet
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny
My B&M rattled like crazy when I first got my car. I realigned my powerplant frame and it fixed it completely. I think that's all you need to do. No need to spend any money...just time.

Sonny

Sonny, can you briefly explain how you did this ? Thank you.
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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use GREASE on the lower end of the shifter bushing, and then submerge it in gear oil in the shifter boat
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 02:26 AM
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Here's my thread on how I fixed the rubbing.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...2&page=1&pp=15

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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 05:06 AM
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Looks like rattles is hit and miss on shifters..

Anyway the ETB wont help with the rattle..
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rated R1
I have a Feed brace and a Gotham short shifter with a stock ****. Mine rattled for a while but eventually went away.
I should have also mentioned that I put a new plastic busing in as well.
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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what's ETB?
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by neit_jnf
what's ETB?
Engine Torque Brace
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Mines rattles with stockers! I aint complaing! jokes!
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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When I installed a short-shifter in my Mustang GT, I had a rattle as well. Turned out it was the aluminum **** I installed to go with it. To fix, I wrapped the threads on the shifter with a little bit of plumbing pipe tape. Try that out and see if it does the trick.
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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I really never saw why they rattle. I cant speak for the B&M style since its a different design, but like the Mazdaspeed and C`s if you put it together right make sure your mounting bolts are actually seated not only just tight and the gaskets are in there and you have the proper shift ****, i dont see why it would rattle..
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