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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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why don't fds have vin numbers on major body panels?

only 4 vin locations on fds? firewall, dash, doors(?)

i just picked up a 95 miata and it has vin stickers all over. eg. fenders etc etc

also, anyone have a picture of the door vin? i think mine are missing.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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do the doors even have them?
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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The FD does have a VIN stamped somewhere into the body itself, I believe up in the tranny tunnel somewhere.

Years ago I was at the shop when I was surprised by a task force coming in early saturday morning to inspect cars.....I told them go ahead as we were legitimate and had nothing to hide. They found one FD with no VIN on the dash or under the hood, so towed it away despite my efforts to the contrary.

Of course the owner was beside himself, luckily they found another 'hidden' VIN and returned the car.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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- Driverside firewall
- Driverside dash
- Sticker on the door sill (not sure that counts).
Any others?

Since I sold my original dash and the idiots at the first chassis shop I hired cut the one off the firewall I'm very interested in this subject

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CMonakar
- Driverside firewall
- Driverside dash
- Sticker on the door sill (not sure that counts).
Any others?

Since I sold my original dash and the idiots at the first chassis shop I hired cut the one off the firewall I'm very interested in this subject
Christian,

Like I mentioned up above, there is definitely another VIN hidden in the chassis. I'll see if I can make some phone calls and find the info.

your bud, Rich
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
The FD does have a VIN stamped somewhere into the body itself, I believe up in the tranny tunnel somewhere.

Years ago I was at the shop when I was surprised by a task force coming in early saturday morning to inspect cars.....I told them go ahead as we were legitimate and had nothing to hide. They found one FD with no VIN on the dash or under the hood, so towed it away despite my efforts to the contrary.

Of course the owner was beside himself, luckily they found another 'hidden' VIN and returned the car.
Protect and Serve.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Protect and Serve.

Only if you mean "Protect own ***, and serve tickets" :smiley_12
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Like I mentioned up above, there is definitely another VIN hidden in the chassis.
I'd be interested to know, because I've had every piece of my interior and every removable body part of my car off at one time or another, and other than the door jamb sticker, the dash tag, and the stamping in the firewall, I've never seen another VIN tag, sticker, or stamping anywhere on my car.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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on my 94 the VIN also appear on front/rear windshield and 2 side windows...are these originally from factory? My brother said he didn't have it done...
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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on my 94 the VIN also appear on front/rear windshield and 2 side windows...are these originally from factory? My brother said he didn't have it done...
Definitely not factory. Are you sure that it's the VIN? Starts with JM1FD...
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Definitely not factory. Are you sure that it's the VIN? Starts with JM1FD...

No way glass came from the factory with vin. Probably added as a theft deterrent.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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It's not a benz... simple enough.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Definitely not factory. Are you sure that it's the VIN? Starts with JM1FD...

yep...all match the one on my title...
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by adam c
No way glass came from the factory with vin. Probably added as a theft deterrent.
Agreed.

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by adam c
No way glass came from the factory with vin. Probably added as a theft deterrent.
Uhm... where would you go to have your window glass acid etched with your vin number? it just seems kinda pointless because if they're going to steal your car and the rest of us *don't* have the acid etched VIN it's not going to be a whole lot of trouble to replace...

That in my opinion is a theft deterrent as much as a battery shut off switch.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Christian,

Like I mentioned up above, there is definitely another VIN hidden in the chassis. I'll see if I can make some phone calls and find the info.

your bud, Rich
Yeah I would defenitly like to know this as well please.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Uhm... where would you go to have your window glass acid etched with your vin number? it just seems kinda pointless because if they're going to steal your car and the rest of us *don't* have the acid etched VIN it's not going to be a whole lot of trouble to replace...

That in my opinion is a theft deterrent as much as a battery shut off switch.
The theory is that if somebody steals your car and intends to swap vins and sell it they will also have to switch out windows. Doesnt do much to prevent theft if the goal is to chop the car or take it to Mexico.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NissanConvert
Uhm... where would you go to have your window glass acid etched with your vin number? it just seems kinda pointless because if they're going to steal your car and the rest of us *don't* have the acid etched VIN it's not going to be a whole lot of trouble to replace...

That in my opinion is a theft deterrent as much as a battery shut off switch.

It is a common theft deterrent. In fact, many insurance companies used to give discounts to policy holders who had this done.

A battery switch is a theft inhibitor, as it cannot be seen. Vin's on the glass will deter rather than inhibit.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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I hate to bump an old thread but this is some info that i need...
I have searched on here and NoPistons and had no luck..
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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Its not a honda, where the vin is taped on everywhere.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Nor is it a supra where it is on almost all your panels....
so I am trying to get some help
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 12:57 AM
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get the car on a lift and investigate. Please don't post what you find on here. I'd rather not this become public knowledge.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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i won't... Thanks Man
i was honestly looking for someone to PM...

I think my "too good to be true" car may just be that...
Pisses me off that there are people in the world like that...

But i want everything verified before i do anything...
It's just the right thing to do...
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Pmed you with a picture, since it seems that the HUGE VIN in the "super-secret" location needs to be kept "super-secret".....
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Replied with my issue...
I would not have bumped this if i hadn't read and i know where the other 4 were...
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