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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Question where this goes(shifter bushing)

I guess a lot of people had already done replcaced thier shifter bushing, I had searched but no one really mention my problem. Here is my question.

i just ordered all the shifter bushing form ray at Mollay Mazda, But there is one piece of plastic bushing that I am not sure what it does nor where it goes.

I atteched pic of the bushing hope this will help you guys ID this thing.

it is the one on the right, not the round one.


thank you for your input.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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That goes in the pivot point of the shifter. The big round part of it. You know how the shifter lines up with this little piece that sticks out in the casing or whatever. Well thats the plastic piece that is in the shifter that lines it up. Its what prevents you from spinning the shifter around while you drive. Im not sure how to pop the old one out, and its not really known to wear out, but thats the replacement.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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new finding

thank for your input. That is what thought at first when I got the parts, but once I opened up my shifter assemebly I was lose. My shifter looks nothing like what the FSM discriped. I can explain that later on in the post, but first i want to say i did put it back together with what i think is right and it seem to shfit fine with the car not running. (My baby is sleeping, I don't want to wake her up, My 7 is loud )

I just want to share my finding and some interesting pic i took when i was putting it back together. Let me start by telling you guys about the car.
I brought the car off a older gentelmen in his late 40's or early 50's. The car has a salvage title. The car was salvage cause of an engine fire. The engine and the transmission were replace by used part off of a what he refer to as Peter Ferral Super car lol. I guess he mean the engine and the transmission was mod by PFS. Base on that info, I am assuming the shifter Mechanism was mod some how.

I attached what the stock shifter looks like in the FSM and what my shifter looks like when is all back together. can you tell the different? DId you notice the spacer between the transmission and the factory dust cover.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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more pic of what is inside the shifter housing

first pic show the stock transmission shifter housing. see the little thingy inside. I thought that piece of bushing goes on to that before I open it up. According to the FSM the bottom bushing should set below the little thingy, and the ball is gudie by the little shaft. but my has something else there????

but now look at the second picture. My shifter housing has a race looking thingy inside of it, and it kind of covered up the little shaft that sticks out. see the third pic.

On the third picture you can see the race is now providing a new seat for the bottom bushing. The large ball on the shifter now rest on top of it instead of in the shifter housing.

Now on the fourth picture you can see the spacer/ new gudie pin (or the little shaft thingy, gudie pin just sounds more professional )

With this setup pushing the ball higher, and extending the bottom part off the shifter. I really think it is a aftermarket shifter. I don't want to use the word short shifter, cause the throw does not feel short to me at all. Then again this is the only RX7 I have driven, so i have nothing to compare it with.

The fifth pic shows my shifter itself with all the bushing on it. Does it seem short to you guys who has seen a stock shifter before? You can' t really see it but the ball section of the shifter has no place for the bushing peice i was asking about at the beginning of the post, so I just left it out. If anyone want it pm me.

The sixth pic shows my bottom bushing. the one on the left is what ray sent me, and the one on the right is what was on my transmission.

Beside sharing picture, can anyone tell me what shifter this is?

thank you for your help

chino
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 02:25 AM
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here is the pic

sorry here are the pics
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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the last pic

here is the sixth pic
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Definately an aftermarket shifter. It is a short shifter. Cant tell the make though. B & M maybe ? I have a Pettit sort shifter and I know that one is not it. What part number(s) did you get from Ray? My shifter is spinning and I need to replace those. Thanks Garret..
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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The pin in this pic https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=133182 should match a groove in the shifter ball. The shifter ball is cut bigger and that plastic piece is an insert that fits into the shifter ball and smooths contact with the pin. See here: https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...49&postcount=5. The parts from Malloy looked just slightly different from the originals, but the thickness/height were the same.

You have an aftermarket shifter. I really have no idea if it uses identical parts as stock or not. I don't see any wave washers in your pics - look for broken pieces of one (use a magnet to fish through the oil in the shifter housing). If it appears they were there but broke off, I'd install the new ones.

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by G's 3rd Gen
Definately an aftermarket shifter. It is a short shifter. Cant tell the make though. B & M maybe ? I have a Pettit sort shifter and I know that one is not it. What part number(s) did you get from Ray? My shifter is spinning and I need to replace those. Thanks Garret..
I don't know the parts number, but if you call ray up, tell him you just need all the shifter bushing, and gasket he will hook you up. I pay about 17$ for the 1 wave washer, 1 lower bushing, 1 guide bushing, 1 end ball bushing, and the shipping. so it is not expensive.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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to me it looks like the rx7store or gotham mazdaspeed knock off one. It should use the same end bushing.

But in regards to your first picture and the bushing to the right...I really have no idea where that goes???
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Bushing on the left goes on the end of the shifter where it engages the tranny. The bushing on the right fits into the shifter rod itself just under the large ball shaped pivot. It faces the front of the car IIRC.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DamonB
Bushing on the left goes on the end of the shifter where it engages the tranny. The bushing on the right fits into the shifter rod itself just under the large ball shaped pivot. It faces the front of the car IIRC.
doh! It finally hit me on how they fit...
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DamonB
Bushing on the left goes on the end of the shifter where it engages the tranny. The bushing on the right fits into the shifter rod itself just under the large ball shaped pivot. It faces the front of the car IIRC.
well, after I looked around online, I am sure it is a mazdaspeed short shifter or a copy verison. Does it still use that bushing. I don't see a way to attach that bushing, Just under the large ball shaped pivot.

thanks for your input.

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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Mazdaspeed sells a metal replacement for the shifter bushing for about $8.00. The stock ones kept breaking on me.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chinoflyer
well, after I looked around online, I am sure it is a mazdaspeed short shifter or a copy verison. Does it still use that bushing?
I'm not sure if aftermarket shifters use it or not. Probably not since they replace the entire shift tower.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Um, that's a C's short shifter.

It says right on the collar.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Are the mazdatrix website part numbers the same as the Mazda Dealer Part numbers? I need the little cup piece on the "ball" end of the shifter. Is there a way to explain this to my local dealer? I tried to explain it to him, and he couldn't find the part. Is it also a similar part used in another Mazda vehicle? Miata maybe?

part number from Mazdatrix: 17-462A-0398
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevey629
Are the mazdatrix website part numbers the same as the Mazda Dealer Part numbers? I need the little cup piece on the "ball" end of the shifter. Is there a way to explain this to my local dealer? I tried to explain it to him, and he couldn't find the part. Is it also a similar part used in another Mazda vehicle? Miata maybe?

part number from Mazdatrix: 17-462A-0398
This parts is not available in Mazda dealer.
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