3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Where do these go?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 05:23 PM
  #1  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
Where do these go?

The one on the left looks to bolt to something, but where i cant remember. The second....I havent a clue either.





And this bracket, where does it go and whatelse is suppose to be attached? I have the turbo simplification mod done, or was done when I purchased the car, so I don't know if that info helps or not.

Reply
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 05:40 PM
  #2  
SLOASFK's Avatar
Top's always down
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,841
Likes: 2
From: Spain
I believe the solenoid on the left of your first picture attaches to the UIM.

the solenoid on the right looks like it would go in the rats nest.

No clue about the bracket.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 05:53 PM
  #3  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
That was my thought on the solenoid attaching to the UIM.

I don't have a rats nest....simplified twins.

Is the second solenoid the one that goes to the fpr?

And I'm still at a lose figuring out where that bracket goes.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 06:59 PM
  #4  
zack4173's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 0
From: Bonney lake Washington
the bracket attaches to the oil filler you dont need it really.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 09:28 PM
  #5  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
The solenoid on the right is indeed for the rat's nest, but looks to have a broken nipple.

I think the solenoid on the left goes on the Air Control Valve, located on the inner (driver's side) portion of the LIM.

I still have that bracket on my FD, that solenoid is for the fuel purge/charcoal canister.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 04:41 AM
  #6  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
I don't have the charcoal canister as it was eliminated, so why do I still have the solenoid on that bracket, if both nipples are capped?

And I don't think the solenoid on the right has a broken nipple, not that I rememer. Pretty sure its just the one metal and one plastic nipple on that one.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 02:09 PM
  #7  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
Wow, it does have a broken nipple It was such a clean break that I didn't even notice it.

I took a better picture of that solenoid to maybe help identify which solenoid it is for sure, since I obviously need a new one now. It has those two plugs on the side and that is the only solenoid I see with that type of connection. I think it's either the turbo control, charge control, or charge relief solenoid. If I had to guess, I think it's the charge relief solenoid as it looks like the turbo/charge control solenoids are the two that are secured to the underneath side of the UIM.

Is the air control valve the same thing as the turbo control?

Any reason why the solenoid on the bottom of that bracket has both nipples capped? Is it just plugged in to avoid an engine code from popping up?



Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 03:46 PM
  #8  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
That's what you get for doubting me

I keed, I keed. Ihor is the expert on the sequential stuff to be honest.....

re: the solenoid w/the broken nipple, all the ones on the rat's nest (the main row) are identical, they just have the filter on different nipples.

Re: the solenoid mounted on the avc, yes, it is the turbo control, it controls the transition from prim to sec turbo.

Originally Posted by spandy
Wow, it does have a broken nipple It was such a clean break that I didn't even notice it.

I took a better picture of that solenoid to maybe help identify which solenoid it is for sure, since I obviously need a new one now. It has those two plugs on the side and that is the only solenoid I see with that type of connection. I think it's either the turbo control, charge control, or charge relief solenoid. If I had to guess, I think it's the charge relief solenoid as it looks like the turbo/charge control solenoids are the two that are secured to the underneath side of the UIM.

Is the air control valve the same thing as the turbo control?

Any reason why the solenoid on the bottom of that bracket has both nipples capped? Is it just plugged in to avoid an engine code from popping up?



Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:22 PM
  #9  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
I should know better by now than to even raise an eyebrow with you.

Well, now that I've picked your brain on the sequentials, I was thinking today that I might just go through with the non-sequential mod seeing how it's out of the car and would be easier to do now than later. Run the twins till they die, and go single at that point.

I'm still torn though. I just want the simplicity of a single without having to spend the money at this moment.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:59 PM
  #10  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Nah, I'm definitely not an expert, just been around awhile is all

I will say that a *working* seq system is more fun than non-seq in my opinion.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:34 PM
  #11  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
Yeah, I've researched enough that I know if I go non-seq that I will lose a little on the fun-factor on the street, but what I'm really after on this build is trying to keep it stupid simple when it comes to maintenance and repairs for the future and thought going non-seq would be a nice way to clean up that area.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:23 AM
  #12  
NoMorePoison's Avatar
Paper mache seals
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 682
Likes: 0
From: Linthicum
Damnit spandy how many times do I hafta tell ya, just do it!
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:30 AM
  #13  
jojoz's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Brisbane
no clue
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 01:34 AM
  #14  
ThoRx7's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Merced CA
Originally Posted by spandy
The one on the left looks to bolt to something, but where i cant remember. The second....I havent a clue either.





And this bracket, where does it go and whatelse is suppose to be attached? I have the turbo simplification mod done, or was done when I purchased the car, so I don't know if that info helps or not.

okay... the first picture... the left is the turbo control solenoid, right is one of them that belongs with the rat nest..

next picture... is the purge solenoid..
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 01:31 PM
  #15  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
Okay, thanks guys. One more thing, on the purge control solenoid, BOTH nipples are capped....why the hell do I even need it if the only thing still there is the plugin for the harness? Will it trip an engine code if I dont plug the connector in, is that why it was done this way? It is currently setup for simplified sequential and was done by a previous owner so I'm not understanding why a solenoid would be under the hood that is completely capped off other than the possibility of having to connect the harness to it for reason I stated.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 01:45 AM
  #16  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
Anyone?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 10:55 AM
  #17  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Generally speaking, the ecu should get an 'evap' check engine code if that solenoid isn't plugged in. I could be wrong, only one way to find out
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:26 PM
  #18  
Mahjik's Avatar
Mr. Links
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 27,595
Likes: 43
From: Kansas City, MO
There is a stock code for the purge solenoid:

40 Solenoid valve - purge control

I don't believe the ECU will put the car into limp mode for this one. I'm not even sure that code will even turn on the CEL, it most likely will just store the code.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:34 PM
  #19  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
FWIW, I still have the purge control solenoid on my single turbo FD, it's one of the few stock solenoids I have left.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 05:51 PM
  #20  
spandy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Patience
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,483
Likes: 0
From: Oregon
Sweet, thanks for the info guys, I'll play around with it when I get the motor back in and see where that takes me.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:50 AM.