3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

whats the deal with the smog pump??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-07-04, 07:37 PM
  #1  
ricankilla!

Thread Starter
 
xxfetusmanusxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: tampa fl
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
whats the deal with the smog pump??

what does it do??? my mechanic called me saying that ONE of the reasons my car wasnt running is bc im missing my smog pump... some guys in the forum have theirs removed... so whats the deal with that and what do u get from not having one??? i think it might be a dumb question, but u guys are the gurus and i have no clue here... if anyone can drop their 2 cents i will be really glad.. thanx

Last edited by xxfetusmanusxx; 04-07-04 at 08:01 PM.
Old 04-07-04, 08:05 PM
  #2  
Sponsor
iTrader: (41)
 
IRPerformance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 11,347
Received 318 Likes on 190 Posts
Its for emisisons. It pumps air into the catalyctic converter at engine speeds under 3000 rpm to help burn off polutants. The car should still run without it, but with stock ecu it might idle rough.

Last edited by IRPerformance; 04-07-04 at 08:09 PM.
Old 04-07-04, 08:12 PM
  #3  
ricankilla!

Thread Starter
 
xxfetusmanusxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: tampa fl
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so do people recomend this??? i dont even have a cat...
or a stock ecu!
Old 04-07-04, 09:28 PM
  #4  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
impactwrench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Bonita Springs Fl
Posts: 1,224
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
It provides combustable air to the cat to help burn up any unburned hydrocarbons left in the exhaust after it leaves the engine. repeat, after it leaves. it is of no value to any internal combustion engine except to make emissions cleaner. It requires hp to drive it so thats why anyone who does"nt need to pass emmisions gets rid of it
Old 04-07-04, 10:10 PM
  #5  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
Batmobile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You don't need unless if it's necessary for smog as others have mentioned. Since you don't have a main cat, you can just remove it and install a Greddy pulley kit which includes a shorter belt.
Old 04-08-04, 08:03 AM
  #6  
ricankilla!

Thread Starter
 
xxfetusmanusxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: tampa fl
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
with a stock ecu what kinds of complications with it bring?? will u get like a code or something?? or does the car not even notice it???
Old 04-08-04, 10:26 AM
  #7  
Nomad Mod

 
Toadman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: The O.C.
Posts: 359
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
Without the airpump the stock cat will overheat and eventually clog, and can pose a fire hazard. You have a console "overheat" light just for this purpose. If you remove the smog pump, replace the cat with a mid-pipe.
Old 04-08-04, 10:49 AM
  #8  
Hamado things my way!

 
P'cola FD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Pensacola, Florida
Posts: 1,245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: whats the deal with the smog pump??

Originally posted by xxfetusmanusxx
my mechanic called me saying that ONE of the reasons my car wasnt running is bc im missing my smog pump...

Find another mechanic. He does not know what he is talking about. If you do not have a catalytic converter, then the air pump is not necessary. I have driven around on a stock ecu with the airpump, ACV, solenoid rack off the car (resistors in the solenoid connectors) and the stock ecu didn't mind one bit.

Why don't you tell us what kind of probelms your car is having and we'll tell you what to look for.
Old 04-08-04, 02:20 PM
  #9  
ricankilla!

Thread Starter
 
xxfetusmanusxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: tampa fl
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well the thing is that i got stationed in montana (lots of nothing up here) and there is no one up here that knows anything about rx's... this guy worked for the dealer and had an rx back in the day... so he only know how to do stock stuff... the only thing i really want him to do is to do all the vac hoses... plus my fpr is leaking... but hes all i got... im just gonna tell him to leave it off and see if he can do the rest of the job... since he dont know much about mods. and hopefuly get the p/s removed... argghhh this sux.. if only i was in florida again
Old 04-08-04, 02:59 PM
  #10  
development

 
dubulup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lafayette, LA
Posts: 5,714
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/
Old 04-08-04, 03:36 PM
  #11  
Rotary Freak

 
jpandes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 2,236
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Post in your local forum and ask for shop recommendations or to see if you can hook up with a local rotor head for help. I'd offer to pay him or at least lots of Beer!
Old 04-08-04, 06:51 PM
  #12  
ricankilla!

Thread Starter
 
xxfetusmanusxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: tampa fl
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by jpandes
Post in your local forum and ask for shop recommendations or to see if you can hook up with a local rotor head for help. I'd offer to pay him or at least lots of Beer!
tried that already... so far there is only one more fd in this town (a cocky bastard btw), 3 first gens and 2 fc's a **** load of rx8 are appearing everywere... but i gues they dont go online....
Old 04-08-04, 07:44 PM
  #13  
No it's not Turbo'd

 
DCrosby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Posts: 2,511
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally posted by Batmobile
You don't need unless if it's necessary for smog as others have mentioned. Since you don't have a main cat, you can just remove it and install a Greddy pulley kit which includes a shorter belt.
Well not entirely... and I don't mean to pick on you specifically Batmobile...

If it's a California ECU / Car... the Smog pump also pumps air / exhaust through the EGR and therefore leans out the mixture, without it it will idle rough, and can fowl up your plugs.... and cause other hard to track down things .....

If you have a Power FC of course that is all mute... since the PFC doesn't even know what an EGR is, since it only existed on California Cars....
Old 04-08-04, 08:19 PM
  #14  
I'm a CF and poop smith

 
skunks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3,958
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Re: whats the deal with the smog pump??

Originally posted by P'cola FD
Find another mechanic. He does not know what he is talking about. If you do not have a catalytic converter, then the air pump is not necessary. I have driven around on a stock ecu with the airpump, ACV, solenoid rack off the car (resistors in the solenoid connectors) and the stock ecu didn't mind one bit.

Why don't you tell us what kind of probelms your car is having and we'll tell you what to look for.
yup, your mechanic is a moron!
Old 04-08-04, 09:31 PM
  #15  
ricankilla!

Thread Starter
 
xxfetusmanusxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: tampa fl
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hahahaha... ya he's old... but i guess ill have to inform him...
Old 04-08-04, 09:42 PM
  #16  
ricankilla!

Thread Starter
 
xxfetusmanusxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: tampa fl
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[i]... the Smog pump also pumps air / exhaust through the EGR and therefore leans out the mixture, without it it will idle rough, and can fowl up your plugs.... and cause other hard to track down things .....

If you have a Power FC of course that is all mute... since the PFC doesn't even know what an EGR is, since it only existed on California Cars.... [/B]
he told me this too but i guess he doesnt know about pfc and all that good stuff... i guess it will be a complicated project but with the help of u guys ill just let him know what he has to do...
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SakeBomb Garage
Vendor Classifieds
5
08-09-18 05:54 PM
rx7jocke
Suspension/Wheels/Tires/Brakes
72
06-17-16 03:48 AM
jsesq
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
27
09-25-15 11:10 AM
rotor_veux
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
5
09-03-15 07:10 PM



Quick Reply: whats the deal with the smog pump??



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:10 PM.