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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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what size injectors should i get?

i want to upgrade my boost and i need a power fc, fuel pump and bigger injectors. what size injectors do i need? i was thinking the 1300cc ones. can i controll that with a power fc or do i need an apexi ems? im pretty new with my fd and it runs great. i already know bout getting cat bak, dp and intake and ish like dat. i want to get my car to 12-14lbs of boost. what do i need that i forgot bout? dont blast me either!
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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well the power fc is a stand alone... and the 1300 cc secondaries should be sufficiant for those boost levels
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 01:27 AM
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make sure you flow test the 1600cc ones if you do go with them! They seem to all be a bit off, sometimes by a lot...
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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If you want to run 12 psi daily:

*cat-back
*downpipe
*intake
*upgraded intercooler
*ecu or Power FC

If you want to run 14 psi daily:

*add 1300cc or 1600cc injectors
*add higher flowing fuel pump

The PowerFC can handle larger injectors.
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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This is kinda fun to play with...A fuel calculator from Rotary Performance in Garland

Fuel Calculator
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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if i get the 1300cc secondary injectors what about primary?
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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rp's calculator is way off....at least for me....im pushing 381 at 80 percent...almost a hundred less than they say via that calculator

stock primarys are fine if you are running 14lbs on stock turbos

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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Jason, 550/1300 at 80% yields 446 flywheel HP, which is about right for 380 RWHP.

Partially inspired by RP's page, I wrote a much more comprehensive one that some of you guys might find useful. This **** isn't rocket science, but it does take some knowledge to understand how it all works together. I have some links and explanatory text on my page that is intended to help you gather that knowledge:
http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/...tem/calcs.html

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by rynberg
If you want to run 12 psi daily:

*cat-back
*downpipe
*intake
*upgraded intercooler
*ecu or Power FC

Can someone concur?

My goal is running 12psi daily with those above mods...and also a mild street port/ported wastegate.

thanks!
Edgardo

ps. Plausible to add high flow cat into the mix as well without upgrading the fuel system?
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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Okay i went to maxcooper's link, and i have a question:

Under "max duty cycle" it says the stock 93-95 RX-7 ECu tops out around 63%

I then entered 550 primaries and 1300 for secondary, keeping the max duty cycly option at the stock ecu's max at 63%.

with that setup its says i should be able to support 343Flywheel HP or 292RWHP

Here is the question:
Does that mean with stock ECU and larger 2ndary injectors, I should be good up to 292RWHP? (BTW i have the supra pump as well)

thanks!
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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you cant run different sized injectors with the stock ecu it doesnt know how to control them
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 04:37 PM
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get a pfc or the ems if you're planning on larger injectors.with a standalone you can run as much duty cycle as you want( up to 100%). i hear 80% is a good maximum number.
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