What mods to beat a Viper?
01-11-06, 12:13 AM
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What mods to beat a Viper?
with the 3rd gen rx7 what would you have to do for modifications to beat a viper. would you have to go single or could you do it with the twins. Friend of mine want's to race me but i don't really want to get embaressed by him. just wondering what you guys think.
01-11-06, 06:17 AM
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well the SRT10 viper has approx 500 flywheel HP, and weighs 3385lbs, which is roughly 0.148 hp/lb, the FD has 255hp and weighs 2800lbs, which is roughly 0.091hp/lb.
If you have an FD with 420hp, thats 0.15hp/lb, which added with the extra revs we have to play with over the viper should be more than enough to smoke him.
mods needed for this.... a mildy street ported FD with a SMIC and stock twins running uprated boost and a PFC might just be able to scrape it.
If you have an FD with 420hp, thats 0.15hp/lb, which added with the extra revs we have to play with over the viper should be more than enough to smoke him.
mods needed for this.... a mildy street ported FD with a SMIC and stock twins running uprated boost and a PFC might just be able to scrape it.
01-11-06, 07:18 AM
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^ That would be a nice place to start. BTW I have a lightly modded FD and I toyed with a SRT10 on the interstate last weekend. I didnt have a shot against the viper, but then a M3 saw us playing and decided to join in on the fun. I tore him a new a$$h01e! hehe
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you screamed that **** at me and I was in my RX-7 I wouldn't even give you the courtesy 7 wave
01-11-06, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by willjs7
i would love to run a viper... lol every time i se one, i talk more and more ****, but they never wanna play. i belive the last thing i yelled at the 40 year old guy around me was "you didnt buy it for the gas mileage".
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01-11-06, 01:16 PM
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THANKS FOR THE FLAMES GUYS APPRECIATE IT GREATLY. BUT FOR THOSE WHO WHERE ANSWERING THE QUESTION THANK YOU. I WAS INTERESTED IN THE HORSEPOWER TO WEIGHT RATIO. I HAVE PUT MY MODS ON MY SIG BEFORE BUT HEY I JUST FORGET SOMETIMES AIGHT. jUST HUMAN NOT ALWAYS PERFECT. mY MODS ARE MID PIPE AND DOWN PIPE NO CATS. RACING BEAT CAT BACK(FOR SALE). FULE PUMP. POWER FC WITH COMMANDER. BLITZ INTAKE. BONEZ CLUTCH KIT. RUNNING THE STOCK SEQUENTIAL SET UP AT 14 POUNDS. INTERCOOLER GETTING READY TO BE BOUGHT WITHIN THE WEAK ALONG WITH BOOST CONTROLLER. THE CAR IS TUNED TO AN EXTENT BUT I HAVE NOT GOT A REALLY GOOD TUNE ON IT YET I WILL AS SOON AS I GET EVERYTHING DONE AND GET A COUPLE DAYS VACATION FROM WORK.
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01-11-06, 01:31 PM
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Ugh, you're going to melt those twins and blow your motor running 14 psi through a stock IC (and untuned, no less!).
Regardless, you do not have enough to hang with an SRT-10 or later GTS/RT-10 cars. You might have enough to keep the race interesting with an early RT-10.
Newer Vipers trap 119+, almost no one has done that on stock twins, let alone with a stock-ported motor.
Honestly, who would get "embarrased" by losing to a Viper? So what?
Regardless, you do not have enough to hang with an SRT-10 or later GTS/RT-10 cars. You might have enough to keep the race interesting with an early RT-10.
Newer Vipers trap 119+, almost no one has done that on stock twins, let alone with a stock-ported motor.
Honestly, who would get "embarrased" by losing to a Viper? So what?
01-11-06, 01:53 PM
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you did not read corectly it is tuned but not to the fullest exctent to where i think it could be. Once i get the other two parts on that i need i am going to get it fully tuned. I don't run the car hard at all. Really i haven't raced at all nor taken it above 5,000 rpms. Just so i don't have any problems why my clutch is getting broke in and i am running without my new intercooler. Now their is no reason to get get all loud about it i am new to these cars and i am wondering what could be done with the twins on this car. It does not bother me if i have to work a whole tone of ovetime to be able to buy a single kit that will do it. i was wondering if it could be done with the twins on their. If not let me be educated on what i would need to do this that is all. I am learning about a car i have never really heard nothing about. You give me a ta or camaro or any of those i could tell ya but with these cars i am clueless. So just let me hear what you guys have learned from owning these cars and learning and empart in me this rotary wisdom that i have not totaly grasped yet.
01-11-06, 03:18 PM
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And you're not going to get a grand summation of rotary knowledge in your one little thread here. Instead of expecting everything to be spoon-fed to you, how about doing some research on your own?
01-11-06, 03:46 PM
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I had a viper ride up against me, his only mod was straight pipes, ahh I coudlnt even hear my self breath yet alone my engine that has a custom 4" apexi gt spec exhaust. Anyways, we hit it at 80 and he actually spins his tires at 80mph and hands me my ***. Put a smile on my face to hear it wot, and besides a 50k gts should be able to beat a 15k rx7. The torque is amazing on those cars and it is one of the few cars I dont mind loosing to. Although my car only had intake dp and cb I would think you would need to go single, full street port, fmic, tune etc to hang with a gts yet alone a srt-10.
01-11-06, 10:02 PM
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Don't know how credible this website is, but here's a video of what's said to be a non-sequential stock turbo FD:
http://www.wrex-racing.com/video/rx7/1098_121mph.avi
The other supporting mods are unknown, as far as the website seems to indicate...
http://www.wrex-racing.com/web/fd/vids.htm
http://www.wrex-racing.com/video/rx7/1098_121mph.avi
The other supporting mods are unknown, as far as the website seems to indicate...
http://www.wrex-racing.com/web/fd/vids.htm
Originally Posted by rynberg
Ugh, you're going to melt those twins and blow your motor running 14 psi through a stock IC (and untuned, no less!).
Regardless, you do not have enough to hang with an SRT-10 or later GTS/RT-10 cars. You might have enough to keep the race interesting with an early RT-10.
Newer Vipers trap 119+, almost no one has done that on stock twins, let alone with a stock-ported motor.
Honestly, who would get "embarrased" by losing to a Viper? So what?
Regardless, you do not have enough to hang with an SRT-10 or later GTS/RT-10 cars. You might have enough to keep the race interesting with an early RT-10.
Newer Vipers trap 119+, almost no one has done that on stock twins, let alone with a stock-ported motor.
Honestly, who would get "embarrased" by losing to a Viper? So what?
01-12-06, 12:16 AM
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talked to the shop who has been doing the work. For around 8 to 10,000 for the car to have enough power to ride up in the viper range. port job, single set up. rails, injectors and a new clutch and i should be right around where i need to be. not to bad just alot of overtime in the budget for this year.