matty

guys i am looking to some of the veteran memebers to please share their idea of what the stock twins in general trap. now i know boostn7 and anthonynyc have made some passes and have gotten 120mph traps. But wouldnt u agree that althought this is very posible what they have done an extraordnary in the amount of tunning to their ecu and have in some cases modified their stock turbos to handle more boost. Please provide a range that u feel is indicative of a full bolt on stock twin turboed rx7...just looking for the norm..not what two guys have done in the past 10 yrs.

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

You are getting owned right here in this thread.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...=1#post3919477

"stock tweins dont trap 120.."

"i cant believe u are even argueing weith me...it is very common knowledge that stoc twins dont trap that hjigh and very very few have actually attained it."


You said 120 traps aren't possible so I gave you multiple examples. It takes 360 rwhp on twins with a well driven and tuned car to do it.

Boostn7
*Ported-motor/stock twins/pump gas*
-10.98 @ 122.9mph(ET streets)
-11.08 @ 125.3mph ( Nitto drags)


http://rx7s.com/tandrracing/team/team.htm

Anthonys 1993 Rx7 - 386 RWHP - 11.1@122.6 mph - Stock Pettit Ecu


This guy ran 120.6 mph on 360 rwhp on a 80 degree Florida day.
http://www.bridow.com/rx7/dragquick.html

BTW: I am very "veteran". I have been building rotary engines for over 20 years!

jimlab

A friend trapped 117.4 mph @ ~13 psi, and I trapped 119.2 mph @ 14 psi. Do a little weight trimming and raise your boost up to 15+ psi, and I think 120+ mph is relatively easily attainable. Brooks Weisblat trapped 120+ mph, Kevin Wyum trapped 120+ mph, etc.

If I had to set a range, I'd say about 115-120 mph for a full "bolt on" car on pump gas. However, some cars are stronger than others, some have more weight reduction with others, and some people are willing to run more boost than others.

PhoenixDownVII

Some people weigh less than others too! By 100 pounds even!

matty

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matty

very very few people have trapped 120mph. u may be able to pick a handful in the past 10 yrs. but with completely stock twins @ 15psi is hard to get something above 118 mph.

matty

u act like a ******* jerkoff if u ask me..veteran to rx7 maybe but immature like a 15 yr old.

i stand by what i said...120mph traps is not the norm...
thats all i am saying and in repsonse u are acting like a freaking clown man.

rotorsownyou7

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Is the cry baby getting mad?

boostin13b

You have to take into consideration driver too. You can have a 9 second car, and have a moron drive it to a 15. So to say something is normal, really can't exhist, I know way too many people that don't know how to drive and call themselves great drivers. There are a ton of people out there with really capable cars that don't pull times because of the drivers. I've seen a few FD's trap around 120 with the right driver.

HotWheel

Now I know What My Baby 's Numbers are !

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

1) First it was none trapped 120
2) Then I posted one then "one" didn't count.
3) Then I posted two, then two isn't enough.
4) Then I posted three one in excess of 125 mph...then that wasn't enough.
5) Now other members have posted they have seen 120 mph plus.
6) At what point do you admit you were WRONG? You aren't looking very good here.

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

He is getting the facts from not just me but other members and he doesn't like the results.

matty

it was never noone...it was there are a few deviations....but by no means is that the norm.

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

Hey Bill!

matty

not true we have ahandful of people in 10 yrs. Dont u think its odd that people recall these people...why do you think that is....boostn7 has received a ton of praise for what he has done....why do u think that is?

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

Because maybe a handful of guys drag their cars? Even less have the mods we are talking about and know how to drive ?
It's BASIC math and the 120 mph plus time slips show it. Give it up.

Kevin T. Wyum

With the same bolt-on's done and assuming everything else is working with the car I could get 120mph out of any normal 3rd Gen, excluding automagics of course.

Kevin T. Wyum

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

Wrong again. This is YOUR EXACT quote.
"stock tweins dont trap 120..especially not 124. 118 i could see.
"

Mr rx-7 tt

iTrader: (5)

Oh NO! Another one!

jimlab

Driver experience has far less impact on trap speed than it does on E.T. My friend mentioned above trapped 117.4 mph on his first pass ever.

Trap speed is more a function of weight and power than it is of anything else. There will be small variations, depending on E.T., traction, and missing gears, but for the most part, it's not hard to wring maximum trap speed out of a car if you don't **** up during the pass.

jimlab

Because he deserves it?

A lot of people don't drag race for various reasons, including not wanting to embarrass themselves by bringing home a 13.xx (or worse) time slip with a fully modified car. For example, my friend above trapped 117.4 mph... on a 13.6x pass. He never wanted to drag race again.

Drag racing is not as easy as many people seem to think it is.

PhoenixDownVII

What's "Norm" then? Seems like a very odd question, open to opinions and experiences...

If I knew of 10 local rotary owners, who all trapped 120+ because they were on highly modified stock twins, I would concur. If I knew of mostly stock FDs, I would agree.

You want to know what they "do", but they do all sorts of numbers depending what exactly is bolted on/around them.

Kinda silly question, eh? what's it to prove? Is 120mph a super-uber-cool number to drag queens?

HotWheel

Hey Bud !

I was serfing , stumbled in.

How's the 7 and your better half ?

matty

right do the math then 356 rwhp and 2750 car..this is where the original debated stemmed from.

my car stock twin stock motor made 340 rwhp (also made 298 tq =high number)..that is definately avg. i trap 116mp every time at sea level at etown. now u are gonna tell me that this guys is gonna trap 4 more mph from 16 rwhp.

jimlab

It represents the upper limit of performance with stock twins. Anything over 120 mph is impressive, but nowhere near impossible to attain.