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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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SD Wedge collar and ring install

I have a new wedge collar and ring on the way because I managed to twist mine up pretty bad on the engine reinstall.

Is it possible to install the collar and ring by separating the engine and trans and moving the trans back a couple of inches instead of completely dropping the trans?

Any good step by step instructions for moving the transmission out there?

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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jhammerrx7
Is it possible to install the collar and ring by separating the engine and trans and moving the trans back a couple of inches instead of completely dropping the trans?
Yes, but you'll either need a transmission jack or you need to bench press the transmission while someone else installs the wedge collar. The transmission will be unsupported so you have to do something with it.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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Thanks Mahjik. I have a jack to support the trans.
I have been reading and do I actually need to unbolt the pressure plate to separate the engine and trans?

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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 11:54 PM
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^^No. Did you engage the throwout bearing to the wedge collar after you dropped the engine in?

If so, use a long flat blade screw driver to push the wedge collar flush w/the pressure plate. Then insert the screwdriver in between the wedge collar and throwout bearing and twist. It should slide back and disengage. Sometimes the wedge collar won't want to sit forward and you need to use two screwdriver/pry bars--- one to hold it flush and another to twist.

Hope this makes sense
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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^^No. Did you engage the throwout bearing to the wedge collar after you dropped the engine in?

If so, use a long flat blade screw driver to push the wedge collar flush w/the pressure plate. Then insert the screwdriver in between the wedge collar and throwout bearing and twist. It should slide back and disengage. Sometimes the wedge collar won't want to sit forward and you need to use two screwdriver/pry bars--- one to hold it flush and another to twist.

Hope this makes sense

Yes, thanks. The throwout bearing wouldn't engage the collar and ring and while I was reinstalling my failed slave cylinder and trying to mate the bearing and collar I managed to mash up the "teeth" on the collar.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jhammerrx7
I have been reading and do I actually need to unbolt the pressure plate to separate the engine and trans?

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Definitely not. There is a old thread somewhere on the forum stating that you need to unbolt the pressure plate one bolt at time through the inspection window.

This was because the poster failed to read the bit in the service manual showing how to disengage the collar. There are also videos on youtube demonstrating how to do this.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jhammerrx7
Thanks Mahjik. I have a jack to support the trans.
Is that as transmission jack or just a regular car jack? If it's just a regular car jack, that's not going to work on it's own as the transmission won't balance on it unless you have a custom cradle on the jack base.

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I have been reading and do I actually need to unbolt the pressure plate to separate the engine and trans?
If your wedge collar is damaged and not connecting, then your transmission is currently not "hooked" to the engine. You only have the transmission shaft resting in the e-shaft of the engine. In that situation, there is nothing to separate other than pulling the transmission shaft out of the e-shaft.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Is that as transmission jack or just a regular car jack? If it's just a regular car jack, that's not going to work on it's own as the transmission won't balance on it unless you have a custom cradle on the jack base.
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Are your fingers, head and other vital parts worth the $150 for a transmission jack?
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Thanks for the reply guys. I'm gonna go rent a transmission jack.

Your exactly right Mahjik. I need to pull the trans from the engine far enough to get the replacement collar and ring on.

I'm guessing I still have to unhook the driveshaft to be able to slide the transmission far enough back to get the parts installed.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Yep you'll need to remove the driveshaft, starter and slave cylinder. One of the bolts for the tranny is kinda hidden under the starter location btw.

It also helps to have a stack of wood under the pumpkin and the ppf to support them and keep them from smacking you in the head when they slip.

Might be a good idea to replace the tranny seals and the bearing while your'e in there too.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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If I understand correctly I need to pull the clutch off the pressure plate to get the ring on the back side of the clutch, correct?

Is there any way to get the ring around the collar without taking the clutch off?
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