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05-29-12, 04:37 PM
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So the answer is "no" there are no insurance companies that will cover our cars at HPDE events. After speaking to them all today (or all that I can think of) they all have the following exclusion: "no race, timed, or driver's education events". I am paraphrasing here but that is the gist of it, they have all now excluded high performance driver's education events in addition to track or race stuff. So the answer is you are screwed if you plant your car into a wall at a track event. You are on your own or your have to lie by towing the car off the track and then get them to believe it wasn't tracked. Better hope no on has video in this case as it's fraud then and jail time.
The alternative to this is track insurance which for me would be around $350 per event. Damn.
On a bright note, I did apply today with American Collector's Insurance. They are 1/2 the cost of my Progressive policy and the big benefit here is they will do "agreed upon" value so I won't have to duke it out with Progressive if something were to happen. Maybe I can use the money saved to buy track insurance.
The alternative to this is track insurance which for me would be around $350 per event. Damn.
On a bright note, I did apply today with American Collector's Insurance. They are 1/2 the cost of my Progressive policy and the big benefit here is they will do "agreed upon" value so I won't have to duke it out with Progressive if something were to happen. Maybe I can use the money saved to buy track insurance.
05-29-12, 05:55 PM
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So the answer is "no" there are no insurance companies that will cover our cars at HPDE events. After speaking to them all today (or all that I can think of) they all have the following exclusion: "no race, timed, or driver's education events". I am paraphrasing here but that is the gist of it, they have all now excluded high performance driver's education events in addition to track or race stuff. So the answer is you are screwed if you plant your car into a wall at a track event. You are on your own or your have to lie by towing the car off the track and then get them to believe it wasn't tracked. Better hope no on has video in this case as it's fraud then and jail time.
The alternative to this is track insurance which for me would be around $350 per event. Damn.
On a bright note, I did apply today with American Collector's Insurance. They are 1/2 the cost of my Progressive policy and the big benefit here is they will do "agreed upon" value so I won't have to duke it out with Progressive if something were to happen. Maybe I can use the money saved to buy track insurance.
The alternative to this is track insurance which for me would be around $350 per event. Damn.
On a bright note, I did apply today with American Collector's Insurance. They are 1/2 the cost of my Progressive policy and the big benefit here is they will do "agreed upon" value so I won't have to duke it out with Progressive if something were to happen. Maybe I can use the money saved to buy track insurance.
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They do say not to drive anything on the track you're not willing to wad up. However, I'm with you. I can afford to total the car, but it's still a good chunk of change if you do.
My first couple HPDE I had an STi. After that car I moved to an s2000, which has a reputation for being like driving on a razors edge (one second you're fine, next second you're spinning). My caution about the s2000 reputation and fact that I was starting to pick up some speed lead me to start purchasing HPDE insurance.
The next event I lost the rear end of the s2000 and made low speed contact with a wall. Damage came to a total of around $9k - although all parts were replaced instead of repaired with a top dollar shop. Since then I've included HPDE insurance as the 'cost of doing business' for each track day.
I get out for 2-3 events a year realistically. Like others have said 15-20 events a year would be very costly.
My first couple HPDE I had an STi. After that car I moved to an s2000, which has a reputation for being like driving on a razors edge (one second you're fine, next second you're spinning). My caution about the s2000 reputation and fact that I was starting to pick up some speed lead me to start purchasing HPDE insurance.
The next event I lost the rear end of the s2000 and made low speed contact with a wall. Damage came to a total of around $9k - although all parts were replaced instead of repaired with a top dollar shop. Since then I've included HPDE insurance as the 'cost of doing business' for each track day.
I get out for 2-3 events a year realistically. Like others have said 15-20 events a year would be very costly.
05-29-12, 07:03 PM
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Yep, I've used them in the past, and it's NOT only for PCA events.
I paid $170 with all taxes & fees, for $25K in coverage with a $2.5K deductible for 3-days of track insurance,
Check their site to see if your event is covered:
http://hpdeins.locktonaffinity.com/Products.aspx
David- $350, IMHO, is CHEAP insurance if you're baby get's totalled.
:-) neil
I paid $170 with all taxes & fees, for $25K in coverage with a $2.5K deductible for 3-days of track insurance,
Check their site to see if your event is covered:
http://hpdeins.locktonaffinity.com/Products.aspx
David- $350, IMHO, is CHEAP insurance if you're baby get's totalled.
:-) neil
05-30-12, 09:19 AM
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Yep, I've used them in the past, and it's NOT only for PCA events.
I paid $170 with all taxes & fees, for $25K in coverage with a $2.5K deductible for 3-days of track insurance,
Check their site to see if your event is covered:
http://hpdeins.locktonaffinity.com/Products.aspx
David- $350, IMHO, is CHEAP insurance if you're baby get's totalled.
:-) neil
I paid $170 with all taxes & fees, for $25K in coverage with a $2.5K deductible for 3-days of track insurance,
Check their site to see if your event is covered:
http://hpdeins.locktonaffinity.com/Products.aspx
David- $350, IMHO, is CHEAP insurance if you're baby get's totalled.
:-) neil
05-30-12, 10:02 AM
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I'm interested in tracking my car this year but I don't have a clue how to set myself up or which events I'm trying to go to. I'm looking for an actual track(not Giants Stadium) to do whole-track time trials on. I know some of you are definitely doing this in the NE, anyone care to help point me in the right direction(like a specific event)? The help would be GREATLY appreciated!
05-30-12, 11:38 AM
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I'm interested in tracking my car this year but I don't have a clue how to set myself up or which events I'm trying to go to. I'm looking for an actual track(not Giants Stadium) to do whole-track time trials on. I know some of you are definitely doing this in the NE, anyone care to help point me in the right direction(like a specific event)? The help would be GREATLY appreciated!
You'll be placed in a beginner run group with an instructor that rides with you. If you are assigned an instructor without a chatterbox, or some form of in car voice communication DO NOT RIDE WITH THEM. This is obviously personal preference but, I will never go out on track with an instructor who uses hand signals. I usually attend Porsche and BMW club events, but there are other organizations which hold DE (drivers education) events.
The first time out is definitely a bit intimidating, but once you get the swing of things you're hooked.
I'm not sure how it is out that way, but just about everyone I've ran into in the paddock area has been super friendly and helpful. -Dan
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John and I will be attending an event at NJMP next month hopefully...You're more than welcome to join or come hang out. There's also a bunch of rotary guys headed to NJMP on June 9th for a Porsche club? event. I'm going to try and make it to help/hang out/photograph. Monticello and Watkins Glenn are probably the two other tracks closest to you. If you somehow find an open registration for an event at Monticello sign up and then let me know about it so I can too!
https://www.rx7club.com/ne-rx-7-forum-30/get-yo-trak-njmp-upcoming-track-days-lightning-thunderbolt-993656/
Here's a thread Rich started listing events at New Jersey Motorsports Park but there's a TON more from a quick search on motorsportreg
06-01-12, 07:03 AM
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Thanks for the info, Scrub!
I looked into the event on the 9th at NJMP, and it just happens to be my weekend off and a definite possibility; I do have a few questions, though:
http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...AAC18BD7B0962E
It states that RTR runs tech inspections 2 weeks prior to the event. Since the event is only a week away, does that mean I'm too late to get an inspection? And Millville is over 4 hours away from me, do I have to go THERE to get the inspection in the weeks prior to the event?
Also, in reading the description, an instructor is riding in your vehicle with you the entire time you're on the track. Is there any point that they cut you loose and let you do your own laps? I just don't want to drive all the way down there to putt around the track for an hour, ride in the instructor's car as a passenger for a few laps, then call it a day. I know this is my first event, and I'm not looking to go out and get crazy all day, but I would definitely like to get a little bit of fast time in there.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong: Is this event only $50 for an entire day of trqack use with an instructor in the car? Because this seems to be significantly cheaper than riding solo the next week at the same park.
Registration ends tonight, so timely help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance!
I looked into the event on the 9th at NJMP, and it just happens to be my weekend off and a definite possibility; I do have a few questions, though:
http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...AAC18BD7B0962E
It states that RTR runs tech inspections 2 weeks prior to the event. Since the event is only a week away, does that mean I'm too late to get an inspection? And Millville is over 4 hours away from me, do I have to go THERE to get the inspection in the weeks prior to the event?
Also, in reading the description, an instructor is riding in your vehicle with you the entire time you're on the track. Is there any point that they cut you loose and let you do your own laps? I just don't want to drive all the way down there to putt around the track for an hour, ride in the instructor's car as a passenger for a few laps, then call it a day. I know this is my first event, and I'm not looking to go out and get crazy all day, but I would definitely like to get a little bit of fast time in there.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong: Is this event only $50 for an entire day of trqack use with an instructor in the car? Because this seems to be significantly cheaper than riding solo the next week at the same park.
Registration ends tonight, so timely help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance!
06-01-12, 08:32 AM
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If you click that link I added in there, it states that it is only $50. I just registered for the event and was put on a wait list, and the final cost was still $50. Where is the $400 fee? Perhaps that is for the entire weekend? I'm only looking to go on Saturday.
06-03-12, 08:08 AM
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^Great video John and nice driving. It's pretty cool to watch your video and Fritz's to see where the speed comes from and that is in the corners. He slingshots out of the corners like a wild man. Our cars can handle a lot more than we think and getting comfortable with that as you know takes track time.
As my instructor told me, anyone can blast down the straightways and be fast but it is those that know how to handle the corners that will excel. I'm by no means an expert having only done this once but your driving skills are good and it's just experience now that will lower your times a bunch. You'll get more comfortable and then carry speed much better thru the corners.
As my instructor told me, anyone can blast down the straightways and be fast but it is those that know how to handle the corners that will excel. I'm by no means an expert having only done this once but your driving skills are good and it's just experience now that will lower your times a bunch. You'll get more comfortable and then carry speed much better thru the corners.
06-03-12, 08:19 AM
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Also, in reading the description, an instructor is riding in your vehicle with you the entire time you're on the track. Is there any point that they cut you loose and let you do your own laps? I just don't want to drive all the way down there to putt around the track for an hour, ride in the instructor's car as a passenger for a few laps, then call it a day. I know this is my first event, and I'm not looking to go out and get crazy all day, but I would definitely like to get a little bit of fast time in there.
You'll need to focus on finding the line, proper braking, hitting the apex at the right time, and then tracking the car out. This is what the instructor will do for you as he'll communicate this information while you are driving. You'll get much more comfortable as the sessions go on, but for your first time, take everyone's advice and lean on the instructor for his knowledge, practice what he tells you, and you'll be set for future events. It's not about setting speed records, it's about picking up the skills you need to gain speed and to be safe in the future. When you drive with the instructor in his car, you'll see the difference.
And you might even get the nod from your instructor to go out by yourself at future events. Several others in the group did this and it worked out well. Being a first time newbie, I turned this down as I has only 1/2 the amount of track time as I shared the car. Felt having the instructor continue walking me thru what I needed to do and critiquing my driving was more valuable than turning loose. Now when I go again, it will be a different story
06-05-12, 12:00 PM
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If anyone wants my traqmate data, let me know. You can download the traqmate software to view my data for free from the website.
I know this event is already closed, but I'll answer some of your questions in the event others are curious as well.
The link you posted is for a Intro to DE/taste of track/etc... This generally means one session on track at speed and is generally about $50. If you are going to drive 4 hours somewhere, spend the money and do the entire weekend. I know everyone thinks they will probably be fine and will be out there zipping along the track after only a few minutes, but it NEVER works like this unless you are Randy Pobst. Most people are quickly overwhelmed once they finally make it on track and realize how much is going on... cars every where(some trying to get around you), where to go on track to follow 'the line', where to turn, where to brake, where add throttle, where to track out, what gear should you be in, what does this flag mean. An instructor helps guide you through all of this and keeps you and your fellow track rats safe and controlled in the process... as well as works to teach you all the basics so you can progress your driving so you can go faster
Again, that is for 1 session. The full weekend is probably $400. The thing that would probably hook you the most would be riding with the instructor, not the 1 session driving in your car.
Awesome video John! Really enjoyed getting to ride shotgun with you. You were really moving out there by the end of the weekend.
It's speed every where, and not just the corners. John, Dan, Fritz, and I all drive the same line. Fritz was the one that taught all of us. We continue spreading his line like Johnny Appleseed and his apple trees 
As John showed, the speed is proportional pretty much all around the track. For example, Fritz and I both have an entry speed into the uphill esses at about 130mph. In order to get to 130mph, we need a good run out of the snake, which means a good run out of the previous turn, etc, etc etc... If we don't get one, we might lose 5-10mph at entry. Speed comes with time. There are no telling how many 1000's of laps Fritz has at VIR and I have good bit as well. There are other variables as well that mostly relate to car set up. Fritz and I were on sticky R Compounds, Dan and John were on street tires. There are also tire sizes, like your car having 255 in the front and 335's in the rear. Aside from throttle induced oversteer, I would bet your car understeers alot with that set up... which is safe, but not necessarily fast. You were at your first weekend though and you aren't to the level where that would matter anyways. In the future though as your skills progress, I think you will def. fight understeer.
I don't flip it down until we are entering the track. I've taken 2 direct shots to the eye with debris, both at VIR. I think both were tire boogers, but it was enough that I had to pit in and had limited visibility for an hour or so afterwards out of that eye 
I almost always do on DE weekends and always during competition weekends. At DE events, all that is required is an SA2005 long sleeves, long cotton pants, and rubber sole shoes.
Thanks for the info, Scrub!
I looked into the event on the 9th at NJMP, and it just happens to be my weekend off and a definite possibility; I do have a few questions, though:
http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...AAC18BD7B0962E
It states that RTR runs tech inspections 2 weeks prior to the event. Since the event is only a week away, does that mean I'm too late to get an inspection? And Millville is over 4 hours away from me, do I have to go THERE to get the inspection in the weeks prior to the event?
Also, in reading the description, an instructor is riding in your vehicle with you the entire time you're on the track. Is there any point that they cut you loose and let you do your own laps? I just don't want to drive all the way down there to putt around the track for an hour, ride in the instructor's car as a passenger for a few laps, then call it a day. I know this is my first event, and I'm not looking to go out and get crazy all day, but I would definitely like to get a little bit of fast time in there.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong: Is this event only $50 for an entire day of trqack use with an instructor in the car? Because this seems to be significantly cheaper than riding solo the next week at the same park.
Registration ends tonight, so timely help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance!
I looked into the event on the 9th at NJMP, and it just happens to be my weekend off and a definite possibility; I do have a few questions, though:
http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.c...AAC18BD7B0962E
It states that RTR runs tech inspections 2 weeks prior to the event. Since the event is only a week away, does that mean I'm too late to get an inspection? And Millville is over 4 hours away from me, do I have to go THERE to get the inspection in the weeks prior to the event?
Also, in reading the description, an instructor is riding in your vehicle with you the entire time you're on the track. Is there any point that they cut you loose and let you do your own laps? I just don't want to drive all the way down there to putt around the track for an hour, ride in the instructor's car as a passenger for a few laps, then call it a day. I know this is my first event, and I'm not looking to go out and get crazy all day, but I would definitely like to get a little bit of fast time in there.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong: Is this event only $50 for an entire day of trqack use with an instructor in the car? Because this seems to be significantly cheaper than riding solo the next week at the same park.
Registration ends tonight, so timely help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance!
The link you posted is for a Intro to DE/taste of track/etc... This generally means one session on track at speed and is generally about $50. If you are going to drive 4 hours somewhere, spend the money and do the entire weekend. I know everyone thinks they will probably be fine and will be out there zipping along the track after only a few minutes, but it NEVER works like this unless you are Randy Pobst. Most people are quickly overwhelmed once they finally make it on track and realize how much is going on... cars every where(some trying to get around you), where to go on track to follow 'the line', where to turn, where to brake, where add throttle, where to track out, what gear should you be in, what does this flag mean. An instructor helps guide you through all of this and keeps you and your fellow track rats safe and controlled in the process... as well as works to teach you all the basics so you can progress your driving so you can go faster
Finally got my one of my videos setup with data! Thanks Scrub!
I can't wait to get more seat time.
http://youtu.be/ndTK1w_1weY?hd=1
I can't wait to get more seat time.
http://youtu.be/ndTK1w_1weY?hd=1
^Great video John and nice driving. It's pretty cool to watch your video and Fritz's to see where the speed comes from and that is in the corners. He slingshots out of the corners like a wild man. Our cars can handle a lot more than we think and getting comfortable with that as you know takes track time.
As my instructor told me, anyone can blast down the straightways and be fast but it is those that know how to handle the corners that will excel. I'm by no means an expert having only done this once but your driving skills are good and it's just experience now that will lower your times a bunch. You'll get more comfortable and then carry speed much better thru the corners.
As my instructor told me, anyone can blast down the straightways and be fast but it is those that know how to handle the corners that will excel. I'm by no means an expert having only done this once but your driving skills are good and it's just experience now that will lower your times a bunch. You'll get more comfortable and then carry speed much better thru the corners.
As John showed, the speed is proportional pretty much all around the track. For example, Fritz and I both have an entry speed into the uphill esses at about 130mph. In order to get to 130mph, we need a good run out of the snake, which means a good run out of the previous turn, etc, etc etc... If we don't get one, we might lose 5-10mph at entry. Speed comes with time. There are no telling how many 1000's of laps Fritz has at VIR and I have good bit as well. There are other variables as well that mostly relate to car set up. Fritz and I were on sticky R Compounds, Dan and John were on street tires. There are also tire sizes, like your car having 255 in the front and 335's in the rear. Aside from throttle induced oversteer, I would bet your car understeers alot with that set up... which is safe, but not necessarily fast. You were at your first weekend though and you aren't to the level where that would matter anyways. In the future though as your skills progress, I think you will def. fight understeer.I almost always do on DE weekends and always during competition weekends. At DE events, all that is required is an SA2005 long sleeves, long cotton pants, and rubber sole shoes.
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Thanks for the props David
I'm lovin the whole data thing but it's humbling when it's 10 mph slower than your speedo and that's what I've been gauging my speeds from for many many years. Of course the lap time is all that really matters but in conversations over the years I was clearly way off on actual speeds OOPS.
I'm lovin the whole data thing but it's humbling when it's 10 mph slower than your speedo and that's what I've been gauging my speeds from for many many years. Of course the lap time is all that really matters but in conversations over the years I was clearly way off on actual speeds OOPS.
Good luck with the next car. Meanwhile finally a vid of you with data. Good stuff.
Ramon
06-05-12, 03:52 PM
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Just reading some threads while eating lunch and this one almost made me choke. Fritz you almost got me killed trying to do 100 mph going into Nascar when in fact the right number is about 92-95 mph.....just kidding.
Good luck with the next car. Meanwhile finally a vid of you with data. Good stuff.
Ramon
Good luck with the next car. Meanwhile finally a vid of you with data. Good stuff.
Ramon
My speedo says 160 (I'm really going 148) on the back straight. well at least now people know I don't have over 350 rwhp. Car is 2650 (maybe a bit more with the weld in roll bar vs m2) though You won't believe it but the RS ran 103 into t3. Brent probably won't remember but we looked at the data in the hotel one night (although it was blurry for sure hehe) from the traqmate which I of course summarily deleted by accident when I got home and tried to upload it. The RS ran a low 2.05 my second weekend in it on day 3 hoos.
I'm not sure what size and type rubber you are driving on now these days but with good rubber don't give up on the 100 into t3. I think my FD could do it on 285 A6s and on 315s it would jog in at 100 hehe.
PS I think Red is going to be OK. Sub frame is bent pretty bad but the body shop was able to pull on the rear end and straighten that pretty easily so I'm hoping to get old Red back on track trying to increase those speeds into 3 and everywhere else
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If anyone wants my traqmate data, let me know. You can download the traqmate software to view my data for free from the website.
I know this event is already closed, but I'll answer some of your questions in the event others are curious as well.
The link you posted is for a Intro to DE/taste of track/etc... This generally means one session on track at speed and is generally about $50. If you are going to drive 4 hours somewhere, spend the money and do the entire weekend. I know everyone thinks they will probably be fine and will be out there zipping along the track after only a few minutes, but it NEVER works like this unless you are Randy Pobst. Most people are quickly overwhelmed once they finally make it on track and realize how much is going on... cars every where(some trying to get around you), where to go on track to follow 'the line', where to turn, where to brake, where add throttle, where to track out, what gear should you be in, what does this flag mean. An instructor helps guide you through all of this and keeps you and your fellow track rats safe and controlled in the process... as well as works to teach you all the basics so you can progress your driving so you can go faster
Again, that is for 1 session. The full weekend is probably $400. The thing that would probably hook you the most would be riding with the instructor, not the 1 session driving in your car.
Awesome video John! Really enjoyed getting to ride shotgun with you. You were really moving out there by the end of the weekend.
It's speed every where, and not just the corners. John, Dan, Fritz, and I all drive the same line. Fritz was the one that taught all of us. We continue spreading his line like Johnny Appleseed and his apple trees As John showed, the speed is proportional pretty much all around the track. For example, Fritz and I both have an entry speed into the uphill esses at about 130mph. In order to get to 130mph, we need a good run out of the snake, which means a good run out of the previous turn, etc, etc etc... If we don't get one, we might lose 5-10mph at entry. Speed comes with time. There are no telling how many 1000's of laps Fritz has at VIR and I have good bit as well. There are other variables as well that mostly relate to car set up. Fritz and I were on sticky R Compounds, Dan and John were on street tires. There are also tire sizes, like your car having 255 in the front and 335's in the rear. Aside from throttle induced oversteer, I would bet your car understeers alot with that set up... which is safe, but not necessarily fast. You were at your first weekend though and you aren't to the level where that would matter anyways. In the future though as your skills progress, I think you will def. fight understeer.
I don't flip it down until we are entering the track. I've taken 2 direct shots to the eye with debris, both at VIR. I think both were tire boogers, but it was enough that I had to pit in and had limited visibility for an hour or so afterwards out of that eye
I almost always do on DE weekends and always during competition weekends. At DE events, all that is required is an SA2005 long sleeves, long cotton pants, and rubber sole shoes.
I know this event is already closed, but I'll answer some of your questions in the event others are curious as well.
The link you posted is for a Intro to DE/taste of track/etc... This generally means one session on track at speed and is generally about $50. If you are going to drive 4 hours somewhere, spend the money and do the entire weekend. I know everyone thinks they will probably be fine and will be out there zipping along the track after only a few minutes, but it NEVER works like this unless you are Randy Pobst. Most people are quickly overwhelmed once they finally make it on track and realize how much is going on... cars every where(some trying to get around you), where to go on track to follow 'the line', where to turn, where to brake, where add throttle, where to track out, what gear should you be in, what does this flag mean. An instructor helps guide you through all of this and keeps you and your fellow track rats safe and controlled in the process... as well as works to teach you all the basics so you can progress your driving so you can go faster
Again, that is for 1 session. The full weekend is probably $400. The thing that would probably hook you the most would be riding with the instructor, not the 1 session driving in your car.
Awesome video John! Really enjoyed getting to ride shotgun with you. You were really moving out there by the end of the weekend.
It's speed every where, and not just the corners. John, Dan, Fritz, and I all drive the same line. Fritz was the one that taught all of us. We continue spreading his line like Johnny Appleseed and his apple trees
As John showed, the speed is proportional pretty much all around the track. For example, Fritz and I both have an entry speed into the uphill esses at about 130mph. In order to get to 130mph, we need a good run out of the snake, which means a good run out of the previous turn, etc, etc etc... If we don't get one, we might lose 5-10mph at entry. Speed comes with time. There are no telling how many 1000's of laps Fritz has at VIR and I have good bit as well. There are other variables as well that mostly relate to car set up. Fritz and I were on sticky R Compounds, Dan and John were on street tires. There are also tire sizes, like your car having 255 in the front and 335's in the rear. Aside from throttle induced oversteer, I would bet your car understeers alot with that set up... which is safe, but not necessarily fast. You were at your first weekend though and you aren't to the level where that would matter anyways. In the future though as your skills progress, I think you will def. fight understeer.I don't flip it down until we are entering the track. I've taken 2 direct shots to the eye with debris, both at VIR. I think both were tire boogers, but it was enough that I had to pit in and had limited visibility for an hour or so afterwards out of that eye
I almost always do on DE weekends and always during competition weekends. At DE events, all that is required is an SA2005 long sleeves, long cotton pants, and rubber sole shoes.
On that visor thing it's really good idea. I heard a story of someone getting hit by a piece of brake caliper. You never know what's going to coming flying in the window.
How are the newly weds
I love the pictures on facebook. Reminds me of morgen and I 12 years ago having the time of our lives in the Virgin Islands.
06-05-12, 04:56 PM
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You are correct dude. I still have your traqmate data and video on my computer that you had deleted. You were over 100 at entry of turn 3.
We are sitting at the pool and beach chilling today drinking some beverages with little umbrellas in them. It is the first time since I've been home that i have been able to just take it easy. Although I do tend to prefer going nonstop
Ramon, hope you can make it to VIR with us sometime.
We are sitting at the pool and beach chilling today drinking some beverages with little umbrellas in them. It is the first time since I've been home that i have been able to just take it easy. Although I do tend to prefer going nonstop
Ramon, hope you can make it to VIR with us sometime.
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You are correct dude. I still have your traqmate data and video on my computer that you had deleted. You were over 100 at entry of turn 3.
We are sitting at the pool and beach chilling today drinking some beverages with little umbrellas in them. It is the first time since I've been home that i have been able to just take it easy. Although I do tend to prefer going nonstop
Ramon, hope you can make it to VIR with us sometime.
We are sitting at the pool and beach chilling today drinking some beverages with little umbrellas in them. It is the first time since I've been home that i have been able to just take it easy. Although I do tend to prefer going nonstop
Ramon, hope you can make it to VIR with us sometime.
I'm jealous but SUPER DUPER happy for you guys
And yes we need to get back to the track together ASAP. You, Me, Pat, Ramon, Pete, Dave, John, Dan, Rich, Jon, David etc....etc....
06-05-12, 11:23 PM
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We are sitting at the pool and beach chilling today drinking some beverages with little umbrellas in them. It is the first time since I've been home that i have been able to just take it easy. Although I do tend to prefer going nonstop
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Umbrella drinks and beautiful scenery? Sounds like a hell of a honeymoon man! I've been stalking your pics with jealousy haha. Congratulations again dude!
I'm in, just give me a few months! We still have to get you the new brakes
Here's a little video I forgot about for you to review....A little off topic but, have you ever been brake checked.....on a race track...on a straight? If you couldn't tell, John was a little upset
We are sitting at the pool and beach chilling today drinking some beverages with little umbrellas in them. It is the first time since I've been home that i have been able to just take it easy. Although I do tend to prefer going nonstop
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Umbrella drinks and beautiful scenery? Sounds like a hell of a honeymoon man! I've been stalking your pics with jealousy haha. Congratulations again dude!
Here's a little video I forgot about for you to review....A little off topic but, have you ever been brake checked.....on a race track...on a straight? If you couldn't tell, John was a little upset