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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Did a search on what normal readings should be but there seems to be a lot of things that factor into these. My readings at idle when cold are -16 on vacuum at 1000 rpm's. When warm it's -13 on vacuum at 700 rpm's. At start up after the car has been driven for a while, the rpm's dip to 600 rpm's then climbs back to 700 rpm's. Got 84,000 miles on original engine and turbo. Only mods is intake and exhaust. Is my car starting to die? How long do you think until I need a rebuild?

A compression check will give you a better indication of your engines health not your vacuum reading. I got a small vacuum leak on my Fd caused from major wheel hop at the strip due to my torque brace being mounted to my UIM. My stock car idles I little higher because of this. My vacuum also dropped after the run. I'm not sure if my leak is from the LIM mounting surface, but I do hear a hissing noise near the back of the engine that wasn't there before. I sprayed some carburetor cleaner in the area while the car was running and it stumbled. So a vacuum leak can very well show a low reading. Don't assume it's your engine. By the way I have more miles on my original engine than you do (95,550) and have great compression. So once again, don't assume it's your engine. When my car hits 100k, I'm going to pull the engine and fix all the little minor problems I have.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Hmm. I couldn't tell if I had whooshes or not when I had the leak, but then again I didn't know what to listen for. Ever since the fix, my intake seems to be sucking a lot more air than it used to IT'S making a whooshing sound. But anyway, good luck with that. Maybe we'll see each other out there.
I'm going to TRY to take some "quality time" with the car tomorrow afternoon. I live literally around the corner from the LaSalle gate. PM me if you wanna stop by sometime.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by t-von
A compression check will give you a better indication of your engines health not your vacuum reading. I got a small vacuum leak on my Fd caused from major wheel hop at the strip due to my torque brace being mounted to my UIM. My stock car idles I little higher because of this. My vacuum also dropped after the run. I'm not sure if my leak is from the LIM mounting surface, but I do hear a hissing noise near the back of the engine that wasn't there before. I sprayed some carburetor cleaner in the area while the car was running and it stumbled. So a vacuum leak can very well show a low reading. Don't assume it's your engine. By the way I have more miles on my original engine than you do (95,550) and have great compression. So once again, don't assume it's your engine. When my car hits 100k, I'm going to pull the engine and fix all the little minor problems I have.
Thanks for keeping my hopes up. I'd hate to have a bad engine after only owning the car for a half a year. Going to get a compression check in 2 weeks when I get it serviced. If i'm not mistaken, aren't I supposed to get a certain compression check since some testers don't get an accurate reading off of a rotory?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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You can use a regular piston compression checker, just remove the Schrader valve, or keep your finger on the release button. Check for 3 bounces. The Mazda one is mainly used by the dealerships, though Chris(the guy I sent you the PM about) has one. If you're going to have it serviced at Hampton Mazda on Mercury, one of the younger guys on the board works in the service department there. Smart kid, did a TII swap in his 1st gen. Though amost all the guys on the board would advise against sending your car to the "stealership".
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MavrickFD
Thanks for keeping my hopes up. I'd hate to have a bad engine after only owning the car for a half a year. Going to get a compression check in 2 weeks when I get it serviced. If i'm not mistaken, aren't I supposed to get a certain compression check since some testers don't get an accurate reading off of a rotory?

Since your going to do a compresson check in the next few weeks, start searching the forum for any info on de-carbonizing the engine first. This will help you get a more accurate compression reading. Carbon sticking of the seals is very common on engines in this mileage range. 84k isn't a lot of miles for a rotary, but it's high enough that the side and corner seals will start to stick in there grooves fairly easily because of excess carbon build-up. I do cleanings on a regular basis which is one of the reasons my engine is still going strong.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yuichiror
I sent you a PM. PM Chris, he'll give you some advice
If you mean Chris aka "Mr rx-7 tt" on the forum, he's def. a good guy to go see, and he's down in your area.

As for Northern VA, you have Ray Wilson of PFSupercars. Prob one of the best 3rd gen mechanics in the country (has more experience than most, that's for sure).
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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off topic question, could a vac leak be the source of idle surge? and a guy i know suggested finding it using blake cleaner or something. any info on this test?
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
If you mean Chris aka "Mr rx-7 tt" on the forum, he's def. a good guy to go see, and he's down in your area.

As for Northern VA, you have Ray Wilson of PFSupercars. Prob one of the best 3rd gen mechanics in the country (has more experience than most, that's for sure).
Yup, he's the one.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by airborne
Vacuum to bar? Vacuum is measured in mmHg on the pfc and inHg on most boost gauges. Bar is different. Or not

Amazingly I'm happy to say my KDR streetport with ~30k has pulled 18+ inHg all year at 850. Not much difference at 750.
inHg (inches of mercury), Bar, psi (pounds per square inch), Pa (pascals), among others, are measures of pressure. If the pressure is sucking, most refer to is as "vacuum". I think that's kind of bogus, since vacuum actually refers to the absence of pressure (like 0 psi). If the pressure is pressing, people just call it "pressure"...

I'm not sure exactly why they use inHg to measure negative pressure and psi for positive, but it's nice to remember that 1 inHg ~ 1/2 psi (so if you have 18 inHg at idle, that's ~ 9 psi). Perhaps it's because if it was in psi on the vacuum side, they'd have trouble scrunching all the numbers in on the gauge... it would be harder to read.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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I got about 16 when car is warmed up with 750-800rpm or 18 with fans on at 1000rpm.

Damn i hope my engine isnt dying.
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