totally pointless fuse box relocation
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update!
Alright, it's update time....because everyone is dying to see it finished, right?
Anyway, it's about time to put the bins back in and route the wires. I'll probably do all of that tomorrow. I still have to run the alternator line and make the end for the fuse box, but thats it. Here are a few professionally taken update photos.
ground wire
starter wire
running the starter wire through the shift boot
waiting to be attached too......the starter
alternator wire, just need to measure and make the other end
Anyway, it's about time to put the bins back in and route the wires. I'll probably do all of that tomorrow. I still have to run the alternator line and make the end for the fuse box, but thats it. Here are a few professionally taken update photos.
ground wire
starter wire
running the starter wire through the shift boot
waiting to be attached too......the starter
alternator wire, just need to measure and make the other end
Last edited by Scrub; 04-14-05 at 09:58 PM.
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Your car looks like hell. Instead of doing all that worthless work you should of had your shitty enginebay repainted and sold your ugly wheels. Go away.
See you this weekend
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See you this weekend
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Hey, do you know off hand what size and lengths of wires you used to relocate the battery and relay/fuse boxes?! I'd like to have everything I need when I start a similar project in a few days! Thanks!!
-Alex
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Alright, I wasn't planning on posting this for a while...but the rough numbers are as follows....
to relocate the 2 fuse boxes on the drivers side, the headlight relay, and move the driving side wiring harness from the front of the engine bay to near the brake booster you need I ordered:
200 feet of 18 gauge wire
200 feet of 16 gauge wire
100 feet of 14 gauge wire
200 feet of 12 gauge wire
75 feet of 10 gauge wire (I believe you only need 10 gauge wire for one cable)
30 feet of 8 gauge wire (for the alternator)
10 feet of 4 gauge wire (to run the starter wire through the shifter boot)
6x24 sheet of aluminum .025 inches (got it from true value)
I bought a piece of board because I was going to build a cover so it all sat flush, but that didn't work out. I'm working on making something out of my broken diffuser.
You only need like 15 feet of 10-gauge wire, but I couldn't really find it anywhere for cheap. I got most of my wire from summit racing, but for the 8 and 4 gauge I had to go to the local car audio store. I wouldn't recommend going to a car audio store. Fortunately I knew someone at the one I went to and got the 10 feet of 4 gauge and 2 ring terminals for $10. The $30 feet of 8-gauge cost I think $20. Also I went and got the rest of the ring terminals I needed from the local store and it costs about $10-15 for those. I can't remember.
For the starter on the fuse box side the wire ends connects to 2 ring terminals. It was a pain in the *** to do it this way. I had to strip the wire down and stuff half the wires into one terminal and another half in the other. If I had to do it again, I would go with two 8 gauge wires or two 4 gauge wires. I'm not sure if the 8 gauges will enough current. So whatever you decide to do for the starter it's a 10-foot run, if you take it through the tranny tunnel. If you use two cables you need 20 feet . I ran it through the shifter boot because it's a more direct route, plus I'm not sure if it would have fit through the firewall.
A circuit breaker is a good thing to have when doing this as well. I couldn't manage to fit it, but if you decide to use one go with 200 amps.
The tools you will need are:
-Wire strippers
-Wire crimpers (if you use wire splices)
-about 2-3 rolls of electrical tape.
-Tin snips
-dremel tool, or something to cut the bins
- I also bought 50 crimps in each side from raychem. The crimps are heat shrinkable and they also seal to make the connection waterproof.
For now that’s all I can think of, but that’s pretty much everything. Hope that’s helpful
Make sure to lable every cable. I used duct tape, but I found some of the letters rubbed off when I was running the cables through the car. Actually a few had nothing on them at all. But luckily they were the only cable in that size left.
to relocate the 2 fuse boxes on the drivers side, the headlight relay, and move the driving side wiring harness from the front of the engine bay to near the brake booster you need I ordered:
200 feet of 18 gauge wire
200 feet of 16 gauge wire
100 feet of 14 gauge wire
200 feet of 12 gauge wire
75 feet of 10 gauge wire (I believe you only need 10 gauge wire for one cable)
30 feet of 8 gauge wire (for the alternator)
10 feet of 4 gauge wire (to run the starter wire through the shifter boot)
6x24 sheet of aluminum .025 inches (got it from true value)
I bought a piece of board because I was going to build a cover so it all sat flush, but that didn't work out. I'm working on making something out of my broken diffuser.
You only need like 15 feet of 10-gauge wire, but I couldn't really find it anywhere for cheap. I got most of my wire from summit racing, but for the 8 and 4 gauge I had to go to the local car audio store. I wouldn't recommend going to a car audio store. Fortunately I knew someone at the one I went to and got the 10 feet of 4 gauge and 2 ring terminals for $10. The $30 feet of 8-gauge cost I think $20. Also I went and got the rest of the ring terminals I needed from the local store and it costs about $10-15 for those. I can't remember.
For the starter on the fuse box side the wire ends connects to 2 ring terminals. It was a pain in the *** to do it this way. I had to strip the wire down and stuff half the wires into one terminal and another half in the other. If I had to do it again, I would go with two 8 gauge wires or two 4 gauge wires. I'm not sure if the 8 gauges will enough current. So whatever you decide to do for the starter it's a 10-foot run, if you take it through the tranny tunnel. If you use two cables you need 20 feet . I ran it through the shifter boot because it's a more direct route, plus I'm not sure if it would have fit through the firewall.
A circuit breaker is a good thing to have when doing this as well. I couldn't manage to fit it, but if you decide to use one go with 200 amps.
The tools you will need are:
-Wire strippers
-Wire crimpers (if you use wire splices)
-about 2-3 rolls of electrical tape.
-Tin snips
-dremel tool, or something to cut the bins
- I also bought 50 crimps in each side from raychem. The crimps are heat shrinkable and they also seal to make the connection waterproof.
For now that’s all I can think of, but that’s pretty much everything. Hope that’s helpful
Make sure to lable every cable. I used duct tape, but I found some of the letters rubbed off when I was running the cables through the car. Actually a few had nothing on them at all. But luckily they were the only cable in that size left.
Last edited by Scrub; 04-23-05 at 10:34 AM.
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Originally Posted by su_maverick
how about for those of us who already did the batterly relo?
I had a lot of extra wire after everything was done. Thats just how much I bought to be safe. I'd say it's a good estimate though. It's about 30 wires in total. My buddy stokedxiv (Charlie) seems to think it can be done in two days, we'll see in a few months when he goes to do it
Last edited by Scrub; 04-24-05 at 01:01 AM.
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Originally Posted by XSTransAm
looks good, its just too bad that you will be jumpstarting your car now every time it gets below 30ish degrees like me...
I don't see how relocating the battery to the rear will effect it in certain temperatures....
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Originally Posted by SurroundedBySe7ens
You know he already had that battery before the relocation, right?
I don't see how relocating the battery to the rear will effect it in certain temperatures....
-Adam
I don't see how relocating the battery to the rear will effect it in certain temperatures....
-Adam
its not about the battery relocation. its the hawker mini... 220 cca is not enough to start the car in the cold of winter, trust me i know
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I bet it looks like a snake swallowed a damn watermellon were you moved the fuse boxes!!! Got a picture of that???? I'm assuming you just extended all those wires into the car?
You must have a good 2" hole in your firewall now, not to mention the pain of getting that threw all the stock wires that are already on the drivers side corner there. Wow....
You must have a good 2" hole in your firewall now, not to mention the pain of getting that threw all the stock wires that are already on the drivers side corner there. Wow....
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Originally Posted by Cory Simpson
I bet it looks like a snake swallowed a damn watermellon were you moved the fuse boxes!!! Got a picture of that???? I'm assuming you just extended all those wires into the car?
Originally Posted by Cory Simpson
You must have a good 2" hole in your firewall now, not to mention the pain of getting that threw all the stock wires that are already on the drivers side corner there. Wow....
-Alex
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Originally Posted by Cory Simpson
I bet it looks like a snake swallowed a damn watermellon were you moved the fuse boxes!!! Got a picture of that???? I'm assuming you just extended all those wires into the car?
You must have a good 2" hole in your firewall now, not to mention the pain of getting that threw all the stock wires that are already on the drivers side corner there. Wow....
You must have a good 2" hole in your firewall now, not to mention the pain of getting that threw all the stock wires that are already on the drivers side corner there. Wow....
you're an idiot - stop posting ignorant remarks about things you have zero knowledge.
you can't even see where he extended the wires for the fuse boxes, it's all nicely tucked under the driver side front fender. Also there is a large grommet hole behind the fuse box by the hood release that you can route all the wire through. Dan will post pictures later, but he did not drill a single hole in the firewall.
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Originally Posted by stokedxiv
Dan has had that battery for almost two years and he's never run into a problem. trust me i know
maybe im just unlucky then? ive had the hawker mini for a bit over a year now and every time it gets colder than 30ish outside the damn thing needs a jumpstart. im sure my e6k dosent help that though.
i had just assumed that he bought the battery for the relocation job. I personally will be swapping back to a full size battery this summer.