Snook

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okay i just got my car back today from having a rebuild done on the engine, i drove it around with my friend for about an hr or so, when we parked it in the driveway i noticed there was a huge puddle of oil on the driver side coming from like around the front or just to the side of the driver side tire. I have two oil coolers if that helps, i know it may be a number of possibilities but i am just wondering what these possibilities are. It is literally like dripping oil, especially when the car is on, and that is the location where it is coming from, so what can this be? The shop will not be open until monday and i do not have the guys cell, so this sucks

JONSKI

That's right about where the oil cooler is.

Snook

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thats exactly what I was thinking
so I took everything apart and the oil cooler on the driver side is perfect no oil at all
I noticed that all of the oil was coming now from directly under the motor and it just dripped from the panel under the oil cooler but it actually coming from under the motor
I lost over a quart of oil within a few hours
I hope this is nothing big I have a 1 year warranty but after one day come on.....

great start with the 7 for me also haha

I filled up the oil and dropped it off at the shop
I will not mention the name of this lovely place that took 5 1/2 weeks when I was told 3 weeks to rebuild my motor and then have oil leak everywhere within hours of picking up the car.

Snook

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someone answer this, brand new streetported rebuild
driven it about 100 miles
oil leaking from under the car and lost over a quart of oil in a few hours
it looks like most of it came out when I parked the car.

Tell me what this could be????

Am I going to have to leave it at the shop for another month again or what?

JONSKI

Post the shop that's doing this to you.

Mahjik

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A common problem is the oil pan gasket. I believe it's a paper gasket which basically sucks. Most *good* shops will skip the gasket and use a sealant instead.

Snook

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Jonski: I want to murder this guy he also overcharged me from what his estimate was
I am not going to mention the name of the place yet
I have indeed had a horrible experience at the shop and after my car is done I will tell you the name of the place so nobody in florida has to go there and get their life fucked up by this moron
He sees that I am a young kid (just turned 19) and that I have some money and he is taking advantage of me big time.


Mahjik: about the oil pan gasket, I know this thing sucks but how would it go bad in not even 100 miles of driving the car. And is this a very minor deal? Maybe he didnt replace it at all and it just happened?
What else could be causing the oil to pour out when I park the car and still leave it on or turn it off after driving.

I don't know what to do with this guy, After I payed him the 4,257 dollars for my rebuild I was borrowing a battery from him and he had my extra oil cooler. I asked him for the oil cooler back and he said he wouldnt give it back until I brought back his battery!!! AFter I just payed him 4,257 cash he doesn't think that I will bring back his old used POS battery and I have to bring it back to get my oil cooler from him. Then I noticed that the cover that goes inside of the rear hatch is missing.

Sorry to keep talking about all this horrible **** that is happening. I forgot to mention the most important thing. The car is ******* awesome. I am so in love with it. It drives so smooth and it's so fast. I had to think about trying not to boost. The car just wants to boost like crazy and I haden't driven a manual car for a while so it took an hour or so to get used to it and the rain didn't help either.
The rx7 is a ******* amazing car....everyone was just staring at the car everywhere I went and the paint and wheels look shitty just wait till I fix that stuff and get a new front bumper omg....

RX7s ******* rule
The shop that worked on mine....doesn't

If you guys have any suggestions on anything let me know
thanks
SNook

Flybye

Actually, the paper gasket on the oil pan is a recall. We are NOT supposed to use a gasket on the oil pan due to fitment ussues & spacing between the oil pan and the chassis.

Gasket putty is supposed to be used on the oil pan, and if they rushed getting the FD back on the road, the putty may have not sealed well and is leaking.

But it might not even be the oil pan for it is obviously not the only place where oil is located at. I had a nasty leak once and it ended up being a gasket on the turbo oil return line........

Snook

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Yeah flybye he did rush to get the car back on the road
he was supposed to be done in 3 weeks and when I went there 3 weeks later he haden't even started on the car yet. So I freaked out and kept calling him and he still didn't really do anything and then these last few days he put it together quickly and test drove it like 15 miles and handed it over to me.

Mahjik

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Flybye, where is that listed? I've never seen that listed as a TSR or recall.

Mahjik

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BTW Snook,

I've had that happen. I had my oil pan resealed and they didn't let it set right. On the way home from the shop, the seal blew. Not even 10 miles driven.

JM1FD

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You paid cash? Oooops. Shoulda charged it...then you could've contested the charges. Doesn't take plastic you say? Find another shop!

Have everything double-checked by a really **** retentive rotary mechanic, and hvae a written list & estimate done up to fix this guy's shortcomings...I'm sure there are many. Include the hatch cover at full Mazda retail, and have a compression test done to make sure you got 100% of what you paid for. Tell him he needs to fix *everything* at no charge....if he won't, get a lawyer and go for damages, attorney's fees, lost wages, etc.

Tim Benton

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Most every knowledgable rotary shop KNOWS that when doing an engine replacement to change out the factory gasket and do the putty gaskets. Even on a reman, take the oil pan off while its out of the car, replace it with the putty style so that it cures while your putting it back in.

Most oil pan gaskets leak on the driver side, in which case you can see oil puddling up in the engine mount area, then running which ever way the wind blows.

Tim

Snook

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it's really sounding like this problem

it was parked on the curve of the driveway and that probably made it look like it was coming from the driver front corner of the bumper where the other oil cooler is.
when I got it on a flat surface I noticed it was directly under the motor where all the flat metal pieces are.

How long does this puddy stuff take to set up?
is he going to have to take out the motor to fix this?
I hope I can get the car back tommorrow since its there already he could be done by the end of the day hopefully.

I am learning some valuable lessons here I just wish that I would have known that people would take advantage of me like that or I wish I would have just gone to an honest good rotary shop.

SnOok

PolishDude

i was there when this was all going down, and from what i hear from you guys, this looks like the problem, hopefully it is, cause i want to ride in snooks car again, it was fun..haha

RonKMiller

You really ought to tell your rotary brothers in Florida who this "mechanic" is.........and file a complaint with your local consumer fraud office to get it on record at any early stage if he doesn't fix it ASAP. If it is your oil pan gasket the engine does not need to come out to fix it, but it is a very time consuming job to reseal. I think most auto repair shops have larceny in their hearts to begin with, that's why you need to learn how to work on your own ride dood......

rajeevx7

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im also young, 21, down here in fla, and have been told some messed up stuff by boniface-hiers mazda. i mean really stupid stuff like not honoring any warranty because "i drive the car hard". just to name one moronic thing the parts manager was trying to make me pay for. i had to get the warranty thing straightned out with mazda corporate office. I agree that 99.9% of auto shops are greatly dishonest, especially when they see a youngster pull up in a super-car. just be wary and no your **** about your own car, if it doesnt sound right, get a second or third opinion. i have called pettit and gotten many straight answers out of them with out being a customer. Lowes auto down in Sarasota has rotary experience but their prices seem higher then should be. anywho, good luck with that oil leak.....ps, two of my engines leaks were due to "new" warped rotor housings.

Snook

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I was told that my rotors and rotorhousings were in great shape and I had a mild streetport done on the housings.
Please please dont let it be something major that will not be covered by the frigen warranty!!

And yes I want to learn how to work on the car myself it was kind of hard though since I bought the car needing a rebuild.
I have a couple relatives that are into the car business and I don't believe that I could even trust them

Flybye

1) The Tech that installed the engine told me this (He's pretty reliable since I've known him from another shop)
2) The factory manual has no reference of a gasket in place there. All it shows is simply applying a gasket sealer to the oil pan.
3) A Tech from another dealer ship told me the same thing. We are not supposed to use a papergasket there and he mentioned that it is because of spacing issues.

But I've never actually seen the TSR/Recall paperwork on it.

Rated R1

The factory manual I have shows both ways of sealing the the oil pan. With or without the gasket. My mazda reman that I bought in November of 2000 had a paper gasket that I removed. As much as it sounds like your leaking I do not think it could be the oil pan "gasket". It sounds like one of the main oil lines on the engine could be leaking. If it is on the drivers side there is not way it is a turbo oil line. Unless you have a RHD car for some reason.

rotary-tt

The motor front cover can also cause a leak this bad.

Snook

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Hey guys he found the problem
I gave him the oil coolers from a european r1 and he used one of mine and one from the r1 and on the tubing of that one there is a little pin that is kind of a spring.
The person that had it before had it installed wrong and he didn't bother to check it cause he thought it was okay and he just put it in the car.
He got a new pin in there and filled up the oil again and everything is great.
I'm not going to diss this shop or the owner because he is a nice guy and I do feel that he really knows what he is doing. We just had a few misunderstandings and he was either very unexpectedly busy to hold my car for over 5 weeks or just very ******* slow.
Everything is great now and I am really enjoying the 7.
I am going to make a thread and show pictures of it and the new rebuild and then an after when I get my new front bumper, clean up the inside big time, and get a darker red color paint job.

thanks for all of the help

SNook

duboisr

garfinkle does not use the gasket he uses honda bond or yamaha bond and he will not do the oil pan leak fix unless the car can sit for three days for the bond to cure ,the people who let him do it have not had the leak return.

Snook

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Like I said in my previous post a few days ago everything is great now
the owner of the shop came in on his day off and fixed the problem in just a couple hours and I got the car back on the same day.
The fact that I had a problem with the car right away scared me very much and made me freak out and think that the car had been rebuilt wrong. I guess I jumped to a conclusion too fast and the shop that my car was at handled it great and took care of me right away.
I apologize for the comments about the shop and I never mentioned the name of the shop because I didn't want to hurt its reputation and I'm glad I didn't because it deserves to be complimented and not cut down.

from all these posts I learned how difficult this car can be to work on and how many possibilities an oil leak can be. I got about 10 different ideas of where it could be coming from
thanks again for all the help
Snook