third gen switch?
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third gen switch?
I have a question, all though it is not time yet, i am preparing for the dreaded day. I have an 85 rx7 gslse and i was just wondering...the day my engine goes, it has like over 250k on it, should i put in a third gen engine, i have a friend that would do it for free, yes lucky me. Or should i buy a 95 whateva the best model, by the way what is the best model of the third gens?...I was just wondering. Also would it be a very signifigant power gain? i know its a dumb q, but i was lookn for ball park figures. And isnt a single turbo better than two because the two just couldnt pick up the lag or something like that? I heard a few peeps that have supras and some 3genrx7 and switched to 1 turbo. Thanks for any help!
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A third gen engine, or a third gen car itself, are not right for you. If you still want to learn more about the engine, https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...threadid=68640 .
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Because you are moving to a complicated engine and car, and haven't expressed any interest in learning anything about it.
You are posting babble.
You are posting babble.
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i was posting a question,and to make an ASSumption such as you did about who I am and what I do is ever so slightly ignorant if you ask me. I thought these sites were for help not bashing. You are wrong to think that i do not do research, i was simply asking about which you thought was better, not if i dont study and whatever it is you think. I have a 4. , will be transfering to the University of Michigan on a full ride scholarship and yes i work hard to learn more. So not knowing about certain things do not worry me for i will figure it out. Try to know someone before you judge and stick to the innitial question. thank you
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Let me spell it out for you...
1.) Age/Experience
2.) Job - A cashier job cannot support this car
3.) Knowledge about the car, you can't just understand the car in a few hours
4.) College student, which means you won't have as much time for work, which adds to not having enough funds to support owning this car
5.) Knowledge about the car
6.) You have no clue what you're getting into. I laughed when you asked if there would be a significant power gain. Even people without a clue of the engine can generally figure out that double the horsepower is a nice gain.
It may sound harsh, but it is the truth.
1.) Age/Experience
2.) Job - A cashier job cannot support this car
3.) Knowledge about the car, you can't just understand the car in a few hours
4.) College student, which means you won't have as much time for work, which adds to not having enough funds to support owning this car
5.) Knowledge about the car
6.) You have no clue what you're getting into. I laughed when you asked if there would be a significant power gain. Even people without a clue of the engine can generally figure out that double the horsepower is a nice gain.
It may sound harsh, but it is the truth.
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like i give a damn about any of those points, yea i know there would be a substantial gain but what is the ball park was what i was tryin to ask. i prolly shouldnt asked it for when i wrote it i knew it seemd somewhat silly but thats why i added ballpark, thought u idiots would have kinda got that point instead of just try to stay on that point. Cashier is one of my jobs, working international is another. I would try to explain but im sure ur head would explode. though im sure thats they way u feel if u were to explain things to me.hmm but i set aside, your i like to get it in the *** comments, try 2 awnser the questions i first posted. also im not looking for parently advice.
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Re: third gen switch?
You're a fool. Please don't buy an FD.
I don't know, should you? Do you have any idea what's involved? Since your friend can do it, he should be able to answer any of your questions regarding it.
I don't know, should you? Based on your posts, everybody has answered no. How about you show an ounce of respect and read the newbie sticky, which covers all the basic info.
Yeah, it's a dumb question. How hard is it to look up that GSL-SEs had ~130 hp and FDs came stock with 255 hp. I guess that's a pretty good gain.
Not even going to touch that one.
Originally posted by LaRazaUnida
...should i put in a third gen engine, i have a friend that would do it for free, yes lucky me.
...should i put in a third gen engine, i have a friend that would do it for free, yes lucky me.
Originally posted by LaRazaUnida
...Or should i buy a 95 whateva the best model, by the way what is the best model of the third gens?...
...Or should i buy a 95 whateva the best model, by the way what is the best model of the third gens?...
Originally posted by LaRazaUnida
Also would it be a very signifigant power gain? i know its a dumb q, but i was lookn for ball park figures.
Also would it be a very signifigant power gain? i know its a dumb q, but i was lookn for ball park figures.
Originally posted by LaRazaUnida
And isnt a single turbo better than two because the two just couldnt pick up the lag or something like that? I heard a few peeps that have supras and some 3genrx7 and switched to 1 turbo. Thanks for any help!
And isnt a single turbo better than two because the two just couldnt pick up the lag or something like that? I heard a few peeps that have supras and some 3genrx7 and switched to 1 turbo. Thanks for any help!
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parental, whateva the hell, i really dont give a damn any more for im just going to prolly do a TII swap since the power gain would pretty much be the same after the turbo and also alot less complications. although i dont need to do any of the work since i have someone that will do it for free. When im done with this car im just going to give it to my Dad then buy a new Third Gen, unless they revive the 7. and also when you got money, its nice to use it. But we all cant be lucky
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well, i think the point that everyone is trying to make is. you are just asking very basic questions; questions that could have been answered by a simple search.
Here are the answers to your questions:
twin turbos have less lag than a single. the reason people go single is because you can make more power on a single, but only if you build your engine, ECU, and fuel systems to handle the boost.
As Rynberg mentioned 130HP vs. 255HP, you do the math it is almost double the HP.
The thing that bothers people like us, about people like you is the fact that we love our cars, and therefore spend time learning about every mod that we plan on doing. We spend hours searching the forum, and researching the parts we put on our cars. It bothers us to see people not even do a simple search.
Oh and yes your post was babble, for someone with a 4.0 average you are not very articulate. This is not bashing, just a life lesson; if you write or speak like you are ignorant people will assume that you are.
Here are the answers to your questions:
twin turbos have less lag than a single. the reason people go single is because you can make more power on a single, but only if you build your engine, ECU, and fuel systems to handle the boost.
As Rynberg mentioned 130HP vs. 255HP, you do the math it is almost double the HP.
The thing that bothers people like us, about people like you is the fact that we love our cars, and therefore spend time learning about every mod that we plan on doing. We spend hours searching the forum, and researching the parts we put on our cars. It bothers us to see people not even do a simple search.
Oh and yes your post was babble, for someone with a 4.0 average you are not very articulate. This is not bashing, just a life lesson; if you write or speak like you are ignorant people will assume that you are.
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t2 swap or 3 gen swaps are not easy and take alot of money you say your smart do research. maybe next time before asking a question should make sure its a good one and get some info first but yes we havent been to kind but nither have you and have expressed no intrest in the subject so why help you
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Get your head out of your ***.
Everyone that's responded to your question obviously has a hell of a lot more knowledge about what you asked than you do-- Yet you call them idiots?
Additionally, (and this is a major pet peeve of mine) YOU CAN'T TYPE AND YOU'RE A FULL-RIDE STUDENT?
Perhaps they should have given that money to someone that can at least present their thoughts eloquently and in a manner that doesn't offend people of much higher standing than yourself.
So, again, I urge you to take your head out of your ***, realize that if you intend to do major engine work (or more!) on a pure enthusiast's sports car-- especially one as complex as an FD-- that perhaps you should use that giant brain of yours to do a little research and learn about it first. Your profile says you like to learn new things. Is that true? Or was it B.S. like your posts?
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Everyone that's responded to your question obviously has a hell of a lot more knowledge about what you asked than you do-- Yet you call them idiots?
Additionally, (and this is a major pet peeve of mine) YOU CAN'T TYPE AND YOU'RE A FULL-RIDE STUDENT?
Perhaps they should have given that money to someone that can at least present their thoughts eloquently and in a manner that doesn't offend people of much higher standing than yourself.
So, again, I urge you to take your head out of your ***, realize that if you intend to do major engine work (or more!) on a pure enthusiast's sports car-- especially one as complex as an FD-- that perhaps you should use that giant brain of yours to do a little research and learn about it first. Your profile says you like to learn new things. Is that true? Or was it B.S. like your posts?
~enigma~
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Third-gen owners are so incredibly inundated with idiotic questions about 3rd-gens, most coming from ricers who happen to type in a fashion very similar to yours. Most *knowledgeable* 3rd-gen owners are pretty technical people, so they let little things like that bother them. They will respond to quote-unquote "stupid questions" with much more malice than 1st or 2nd gen owners, because they are constantly fielding teenage ricers' dumb questions, and it gets very tiresome, makes them cranky. Some are cranky to begin with, their cars cost a lot and are less reliable than the average car, such is life in the 'pure sportscar' world.
To answer your original questions, here are a few useful websites, written by nice 3rd gen owners, many years ago:
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/bguide3g/bguide3g.html
http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/buying.html
http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobinette/buyaused.htm
They deal with buying a used 3rd gen, but the websites have a lot of info on 3rd gen motors also. Check it out, that should keep you busy for a few hours, and be valuable in helping you make your decision.
PS, it's just the internet, don't take it too seriously.
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To answer your original questions, here are a few useful websites, written by nice 3rd gen owners, many years ago:
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/bguide3g/bguide3g.html
http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/buying.html
http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobinette/buyaused.htm
They deal with buying a used 3rd gen, but the websites have a lot of info on 3rd gen motors also. Check it out, that should keep you busy for a few hours, and be valuable in helping you make your decision.
PS, it's just the internet, don't take it too seriously.
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re: 13b-rew swap into the SA chassis, I wouldn't bother. The EMS is going to be the toughest part, unless your friend can tune your programmable ECU for you, I'd stay away from it.
If you're willing to learn a LOT, look into programmable engine management, like the Haltech, Motec, PowerFC, etc... it's either that or swap in the entire FD motor, including all the vacuum lines, wiring harness, etc... I think that would be quite a tight squeeze into the SA engine bay.
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If you're willing to learn a LOT, look into programmable engine management, like the Haltech, Motec, PowerFC, etc... it's either that or swap in the entire FD motor, including all the vacuum lines, wiring harness, etc... I think that would be quite a tight squeeze into the SA engine bay.
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Originally posted by LaRazaUnida
i was posting a question,and to make an ASSumption such as you did about who I am and what I do is ever so slightly ignorant if you ask me. I thought these sites were for help not bashing. You are wrong to think that i do not do research, i was simply asking about which you thought was better, not if i dont study and whatever it is you think. I have a 4. , will be transfering to the University of Michigan on a full ride scholarship and yes i work hard to learn more. So not knowing about certain things do not worry me for i will figure it out. Try to know someone before you judge and stick to the innitial question. thank you
i was posting a question,and to make an ASSumption such as you did about who I am and what I do is ever so slightly ignorant if you ask me. I thought these sites were for help not bashing. You are wrong to think that i do not do research, i was simply asking about which you thought was better, not if i dont study and whatever it is you think. I have a 4. , will be transfering to the University of Michigan on a full ride scholarship and yes i work hard to learn more. So not knowing about certain things do not worry me for i will figure it out. Try to know someone before you judge and stick to the innitial question. thank you
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