3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Swapping turbo cartridges

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 28, 2003 | 01:47 PM
  #1  
ExpensiveHobby22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
Swapping turbo cartridges

Anyone done this before?

If so, what steps need to be taken?

I have the primary cartridge out of its housing. Is it just simple plug and play to put a secondary cartridge in there in its place? That's the impression I got from people's suggestions in my other thread, but it seems to me like there would be more to it than that.

What about the seal along the outer rim of the compressor side that mates to the housing? Is this one of the oil seals or just an air seal? It didn't survive the extraction very well so I'm a bit concerned about how the seal from the cartridge I hope to use would fair when I removed it.

Any comments, suggestions, whatever would be welcome.

thanks,
ray
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2003 | 02:49 PM
  #2  
DaleClark's Avatar
RX-7 Bad Ass
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (56)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,622
Likes: 2,724
From: Pensacola, FL
Yeah, it is pretty much just plug-and-play. The only real trick is making sure the orientation of the cartridge to the turbine and compressor housings is correct so all the oil, water, and air lines will line up right.

I've yet to tear down FD turbos, so I'm not sure of the seal you're talking about. If it's a physical o-ring or the like and it's damaged, you probably need to replace it. If it's just sealant, I'd scrub off the old stuff and use a light coat of grey RTV.

Dale
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2003 | 03:32 PM
  #3  
ExpensiveHobby22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
It's an orange seal. It comes off like it was RTV.

Any high temp sealant suggestions?
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:14 PM
  #4  
mor's Avatar
mor
Full Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
From: Irvine, CA
I think it is RTV. I rebuilt my turbos using TurboCity rebuild kits and I had to seal it when putting it back together.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:38 PM
  #5  
poss's Avatar
Slower Traffic Keep Right
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,194
Likes: 2
From: Dayton, OH
both cartridges are identical so they are interchangeable. Was this "seal" between the compressor snail and the plate behind the compressor? If that was it, i wouldn't worry about putting more sealant in there. The C-ring holds the snail on there VERY well. Remember to give the ring a couple of taps with a punch/chisel/drift to make sure it is seated properly.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:43 PM
  #6  
caffeine655's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: Allen, TX
i believe you have to get them balanced as well, this may not be the case, but thats whatd id do just to make sure they dont fly appart at 30 thousand rpm...
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:46 PM
  #7  
duboisr's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 1
From: Nashville Tn
call Garfinkle for info 615 893 -4469
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 07:29 AM
  #8  
ExpensiveHobby22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
I was waiting for the Garfinkle referal...
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 08:16 AM
  #9  
DaleClark's Avatar
RX-7 Bad Ass
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (56)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,622
Likes: 2,724
From: Pensacola, FL
If you're swapping in an already good cartridge, you don't have to balance it or anything - the cartridge is a balanced assembly.

I'd use a little bit of RTV - like I said, I prefer the grey RTV due to good shear strength. It's just to help insure an airtight seal at the compressor housing to backplate.

Just make sure you get all the old goop off.

Dale
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 11:22 AM
  #10  
Jodeny's Avatar
Indifferent
Tenured Member: 25 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 982
Likes: 0
From: Long Island,NY
It is a fairly easy swap but I have seen the turbo fail soon afterward. It seems that the exhaust hitting the turbine at a slightly different angle wears the bearing a little quicker.
John
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2003 | 10:18 AM
  #11  
ExpensiveHobby22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
I finished my cartride swapping and everything seems to work really well.

It was a fairly straightforward procedure. Getting the big snap ring on and off was probably the biggest problem, and it wasn't really that bad. Aligning the cartridges was no problem either.

I can do a write up if anyone is interested.

I'll also update on how the swapped cartridge fairs in it's new home.

-ray
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
Jul 1, 2023 04:40 PM
bb6guy
Old School and Other Rotary
10
Oct 1, 2018 08:07 AM
Machupicchu
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
8
Aug 17, 2015 08:27 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:31 PM.