Yeah trivial question. We all know the FD's weight is around 27XX lbs. But due to a conversation that I had on another area here on the forum, the topic was brought up about the weight listed on the door.

GVWR = 3210 LBS ??? what is that weight? anyone know? Sadly I should know this but this is the first time I ever looked at that sticker


Thanks

M-

 

GVWR is NOT the actual weight of the car. I have always heard the FD was around 2850 with 1/2 tank of gas, no driver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVWR

 

yeah, i saw the sticker the other day too and was confused a little. 2800 pounds sounds about right, depending on the model and options.

 

I believe GVWR is the weight of the car with a full load of average weight passengers...

 

oohhh thanks!

yeah there is a reason why I said 27XX lbs. I've seen several places state different weight. 2850 is the highest I've seen yet

 

You've heard of Google, right?

Google for GVWR.

 

GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

This is the maximum the vehicle should ever weigh. in other words, if your cargo and fluids and passenger and driver make the curb weight of the FD exceed the GVWR, then you are "over grossing" the car. lighten the load and then go for your drive. The gross weight is determined by the designers to ensure safe handling and BRAKING characteristics. if the car is over-grossed, you will most likely e stressing stock parts. However, I have yet to see any documented cases of an FD carrying 60 lbs of stuff in the trunk area and two people weighing in over 200 lbs apiece ever having a brake failure. This would technically "overgross" the car, but I have a feeling they designed the FD a bit stronger then stated on the GVWR.

Just like semis, they have the gvwr pasted all over them, to let inspectors know what the maximum hauling capacity (including the trucks weight) would be. I wonder if the GVWR is involved with tax purposes somewhere in the importing business. I know that 1/2 ton trucks with a gvwr ov at least 6500lbs will get farmers and business owners a tax writeoff in WA state.

for a small car like this, I dont see there being a problem. Funny story though: I was moving to Colorado and I owned a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon at the time. I had all of my tools in the car and all of my belongings.... it was LOADED! when I weighed the car, it was 250lbs over gross before I got back into it. most of the way through the 1100 mile trip, i blew my rear shocks. But I guess that is bound to happen when you overgross a small car by 520 lbs total.

 

I never really understood GVWR until now...

 

In driving trim (ie you driving with a full tank of gas) in an FD, I would guess the average total weight around 3000lbs. assuming a driver 150-200 lbs.

Most 2 seater cars driving around are sitting around midpoint between curb weight and gvwr. a 4 seater vehicle will have a considerably higher payload (unless it is a metro) so a single occupant driving a 4 seater car will be around 25-30% of payload capacity above curbweight (so 70-75% of payload less then gvwr).
these numbers will change when you start talking about small suv's, large SUVs, crew cab trucks compared to standard cab trucks, etc...

 

I've weighed my car several times and it is always between 2880 and 2910 when checked on the local grain elevator scales.

 

Well yeah I was the guy that brout up the fact that my sticker said 3210, and I just checked on a site that gives specs, and it said with all fluids and in running condition that the weight is 3210. and my small car lift at the house is rated for 2500 lbs. but It's lifted about a 2800 pound boat befor, and it had a extremly hard time getting my 93fd off the ground. wierd!!

 

"Gross" vehicle weight? You know, it almost sounds like taxes. Your "net" weight (i.e. what the car actually weighs with you and your standard cargo) is a good fraction of the "gross" weight (max vehicle capacity as the designers intended). But in our case, lighter is better. Wish it worked the same way with $$$.

Fuggin' Uncle Sam

 

No. the 3210 is the maximum you should ever have the car weighing total. this will include max passengers and cargo.

gross (GVWR... the sticker weight) = curb weight + fluids + 2 passengers + cargo
if: curb weight + fluids + 2 passengers + cargo is greater than 3210, then you need to lighten the load. At least, according to Mazda. :P

 

So if your car weighs 2910 with a full tank of gas and no passengers or cargo, then you have 300 lbs weight capacity.

GVWR - Curb = Cargo
(3210)-(2910)=(300)

 

Does it say 3210lb on even the base and r1 model? Because I know the touring is 2850ish. Good thing I've never weighed over 130lbs! haha

 

the GVWR of the chassis will be the same. unless different shocks or springs change the GVWR.

my 95 PEP says 3210, so I am assuming Mazda is going by the chassis, and the different available suspension setups did not alter the GVWR.

 

2800 pounds is a pretty fair weight for most FD's - add in a little more if the car is an automatic and/or has a sunroof.

My car with me in it and a full tank of gas weighed in at 3010 at the Cat Certified Truck Scales . That was some time back, mods were just downpipe/catback, and I'm about 190-200 pounds.

If you're curious, just go weigh the damn car. If nothing else, find a truck stop with Cat scales - it's a few bucks, but they're certified and accurate, and usually easier to find and get to than scales at the dump and the like. Heck, I've had friends use the scales at the weigh station coming into Florida on I-10 . Go there at night when it's slow, and the bored attendant will gladly weigh your nifty sports car.

Dale

 

2789 lbs

 

how much can the sunroof actually weigh? i had to pull the entire sunroof out the rear hatch to fix some stupid piece of plastic, and i dont remember it being very heavy at all?

i bet the spoiler adds a good 20lbs

 

the GVWR is the thing that government use to knwo how much mone ythey could take from you......

 

I guess there is a difference between USDM and JDM models in weight right? JDMs weight about 2750

 

That is just a use that has no effect on determining the GVWR of a vehicle.




The only difference in weight is going to be due to the emissions equipment... that the JDM FD's don't have.

 

^^^ so true.... f250 and f350 are a great example... same everything except for badge....