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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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some bumpsteer issues.. i need a kit.

i'm having some bumpsteer issues and i was wondering where i can get a kit to fix this problem.. thanks.

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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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More details on your setup please.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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what do you mean? its a 20b on stock subframe, stock steering rack, lowered the sway bar about 1", coilovers, 19" wheels, lowered.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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gordon, i dont need a subframe kit.. im just looking for the bump steer kit.

i know pettit and hinson sale one for $150 but i was wondering if there was others
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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what do you mean? its a 20b on stock subframe, stock steering rack, lowered the sway bar about 1", coilovers, 19" wheels, lowered.
So if you have the stock subframe in the stock location and stock, unmodified steering rack in the stock location, then none of the stock steering geometry has changed. Therefore you shouldn't have any bumpsteer.

How exactly did you determine you have bumpsteer?

Can you describe the problem?
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ill check them out thanks
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
So if you have the stock subframe in the stock location and stock, unmodified steering rack in the stock location, then none of the stock steering geometry has changed. Therefore you shouldn't have any bumpsteer.

How exactly did you determine you have bumpsteer?
I think he has it lowered so much that whenever he hits a bump he's in the next lane. On the FD, you can't lower more than say an inch max before you run into this problem. I'm only lower than stock by something like 3/4 inch. Any lower and I get all kinds of issues on bumps.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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I have some concerns over Hinson from a business perspective.

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The original bumpsteer kit had an extension out at the knuckle of the hub. The new hinson kit has an extension from the rack end so that seemed to be better. However, the kit looked too homemade to me. Is this the "business perspective" you're referring to?
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pomanferrari
The original bumpsteer kit had an extension out at the knuckle of the hub. The new hinson kit has an extension from the rack end so that seemed to be better. However, the kit looked too homemade to me. Is this the "business perspective" you're referring to?
Before you invest in the Hinson inner bumpsteer correction you need to read this thread and be sure to watch the video in post #4
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I'm also wondering how you have "bumpsteer"? You sure you're running a stock subframe? If you are post pictures, I'd like to see the setup.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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i'll take some pictures tomorrow and show u guys what im talking about..
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
I have some concerns over Hinson from a business perspective.

Gordon
+1, their reputation has grossly diminished over at v8rx7forum, I would be very weary.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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i wasn't going to get anything from them anyways . i was just wanted some different options..
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 05:36 AM
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The kits that i know of are - top speedhttp://group5motorsport.com/nagisa_a.../i-129212.aspx

megan racing- http://www.meganracing.com/products/...=694&catid=108

And the hinson kit - http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-740...steer-kit.aspx

On my 20b fd im using the hinson kit.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
I have the Rx7specialties subframe with bumpsteer kit. No bumpsteer. The geometry at the hub is the same as stock. About $1500-2000 all in.

Gordon
Gordon is the setup that your using, the modified wheel spindles or adjustable tie rod ends?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Wouldn't any "bumpsteer kit" have to match whatever subframe you're using in order to work anyway, unless they are adjustable?
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wouldn't any "bumpsteer kit" have to match whatever subframe you're using in order to work anyway, unless they are adjustable?

yes.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Mine has adjustable tie rod ends.

Gordon

Right, but I think you'd need to be able to adjust the height of the steering arm attached to the hub carrier. Ultimately, you're modifying the relative height/angle of the arm to coincide with a relocated steering rack, so the precision of the geometry is key.
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I could be wrong but aren't your tie rods on upside down? IIRC, they should mount from under the control arm.
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Originally Posted by bewtew

Dude - that is DEFINITELY NOT a stock sub-frame you have there. Ride height looked about right but you are missing part of the subframe towards the front of the engine.

I bet when you hit a bump you're 3 lanes over eh?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
I could be wrong but aren't your tie rods on upside down? IIRC, they should mount from under the control arm.
if they do mount from under the control arm then they are upside down.. wow i can't the place where i took the car to get them install did this..


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Dude - that is DEFINITELY NOT a stock sub-frame you have there. Ride height looked about right but you are missing part of the subframe towards the front of the engine.

I bet when you hit a bump you're 3 lanes over eh?
no i dont go over 3 lanes.. the car feels fine except for small cracks on the road.
i know what you are talking about but u can't see much from the angle of these pictures, and yes it is a stock subframe. i'll take some pictures from under once i get the car to a lift.

i think my bumpsteer problem is because some idiot at the shop where i took the car to get the tie rods installed put them upside down
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Compare the location of your tie-rod with mine below: your tie-rod is definitely set way too low either because you have the car lowered so much or the sub-frame has been shifted downward somehow.


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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bewtew
if they do mount from under the control arm then they are upside down.. wow i can't the place where i took the car to get them install did this..

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i think my bumpsteer problem is because some idiot at the shop where i took the car to get the tie rods installed put them upside down

Its hard to tell from your pics but something doesn't look right with the way your tie rods are angled. Pull a wheel off and compare with poman's pics.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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Does this mean you are not going to share with me your temp lowering fix? Come on man, I gave up Megan Racing as a possible solution!
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