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Old 08-10-04, 02:43 PM
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RX7 setup. Opinions?

Hi you all.

I am going to have RX7 FD3S for drifting. This is the setup for it that I have in my mind:

GReddy airinx type-B air filters
GReddy intercooler
GReddy aluminium radiotor
GReddy Power Evolution II Exhaust (with cat-replacement and frontpipe)
GReddy Profec B-spec II boost controller
GReddy e-manage
GReddy Type-R Blow Off

Cusco Super Single Clutch system
Cusco Flywheel
Cusco LSD
Cusco Zero 2R coil-overs and bits for suspension setup.

I have performance parts shop of my own, so the list of GReddy and Cusco parts are for that and could not be replaced by any other brand.

I have previously worked (and owned) mostly with Nissans like RPS13 and Silvia S14 so this RX7 thing is a bit new for me.

And the questions:

Is that setup good or does it miss something very usefull? What is that setup good for in BHP? How high will factory turbos take?

What about that overheating issue? I planned to install new radiator and intercooler "Signal Auto style", so that they make a V-pattern where intercooler is on the top of the radiator and air from front goes to "mouth" of that V and from there it goes to engine room through the radiator and in the air through the intercooler and aero bonnet. Cold air intake will be done for air filters. Do you think that it'll do good like this?

What about rewving? If I'm going to have light weight flywheel and carbon fiber drive shaft, will it be good for steet also, or would it be too "rough"?

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Old 08-10-04, 04:59 PM
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too bad your stuck with Greddy because there is a lot better stuff on the market then theirs.
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Geez... Maybe you need to talk with Greddy Cusco.. Where are you located?? Europe?? BHP??

I didn't even know Greddy made an radiator for FD's... Something new for me..

Also, if you are going to go V-mount.. I don't think you could do it with greddy parts.. but I could be wrong.. post like this on your very first post makes me wonder who old you are..
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high rev's + low speeds + crazy angles preventing sufficient airflow into the radiator =>> overheating and blown coolant seal =>> time for a rebuild =>> no more drifting for a while.


Before you do anything, buy a car that's in good condition, and bring it up to 'like new' condition in terms of maintenance. Replace the entire cooling system with new or upgraded parts before you go drifting. If you're in SoCal, there are a few people who drift rotaries, you can find them at the drift events. Go to one and talk to some people who've done it, they'll be much more helpful than this message board. It seems a lot of the people on here aren't too impressed by drifting (myself included).

You really don't need all that extra power to drift, my bone stock car is plenty tailhappy at the autocrosses, even on z-rated yokohama tires. Quit wasting time modifying for show, spend time learning to drive.

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Originally Posted by herblenny
Geez... Maybe you need to talk with Greddy Cusco.. Where are you located?? Europe?? BHP??

I didn't even know Greddy made an radiator for FD's... Something new for me..

Also, if you are going to go V-mount.. I don't think you could do it with greddy parts.. but I could be wrong.. post like this on your very first post makes me wonder who old you are..
Need to talk with GReddy / Cusco?!? I do have information for the parts, but I'm trying to have somekind of picture about FD here. My main concern is that overheating issue of RX7. And yes, GReddy does have radiator for FD.

I intended to use GReddy intercooler with custom piping, so that V-mount can be done.

I can surely understand your concern about my age for my first post, but I'm on my mid 20's and really own my shop. I just can't tell my information because this car is supposed to be a show stopper next spring and I wouldn't like to reveal it before that.

But you can be sure that when the car is ready, you can see photos of it.

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Originally Posted by scotty305
Before you do anything, buy a car that's in good condition, and bring it up to 'like new' condition in terms of maintenance.

You really don't need all that extra power to drift, my bone stock car is plenty tailhappy at the autocrosses, even on z-rated yokohama tires. Quit wasting time modifying for show, spend time learning to drive.
Thanks for your opinion. I will try to find as good car as I can get, and ofcourse built it up so that the basic setup is good conditioned.

I'm not after very high power, maybe like 270-300hp at wheels but I'd really like to built the car so that I wouldn't have to be afraid of overheating and engine problems.

Do you think that water spray system to outside of intercooler will help with the heat when drifting?

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Take a look at group buy or thread on the 3rd gen forum about water injection. I wouldn't suggest an external sprayer as you'll not be able to use it at most tracks. You'll also want to do oil coolers (unless you pickup R1/R2 model that has dual oil coolers stock). You can get nice aftermarket (though not sure if Cusco/Greddy make oil coolers) or just buy the R1/R2 (93s its R1, 94+ its R2) kit for your car and stick with Mazda parts.

If you're going to do all of those modifications you'll probably want to upgrade your ECU. If you're sticking with just doing that to the car you could get a Pettit Limited or M2 Stage 3. If you're thinking about a phase 2 for the car with a single turbo setup you probably want to look at PowerFC (though its Apexi so might mess up your show car, the M2 and Pettit are remapped Mazda ECUs).
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read the newbie stickies
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Originally Posted by alberto_mg
read the newbie stickies
I have read the newbie stickies along with every FAQ and mod-page I have found. I am really just trying to get sure that with upgraded cooling parts, FD can be used in drifting without having to be afraid of engine problems.

What about FD's gear box? Does it handle shiftlocks, or do I have to be afraid of blowing that up?

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driftrx7,

well, this is the thing... I know you own your own shop.. so, I'm guessing you know a lot about cars in general.. And as you said, you searched this forum..

Do you have these parts in hand?? because I have greddy fmic and i don't think its going to be easy to converted to v mount.. If you did, you need to understand that its all about design thats going to make the difference.. at that point, it might be worth it for you to just go ahead and buy non greddy kit.. just because it seems to me that you aren't quite sure how well its going to perform.. Alot of times, trial and error will be best way to test.. So, just go ahead and start building..

To me at this point, its going to be hard to build a quality car just using one or two specific company to build the car.. you need to consider picking best products from different companies.. Good luck with your project!
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Originally Posted by herblenny
driftrx7,
well, this is the thing... I know you own your own shop.. so, I'm guessing you know a lot about cars in general.. And as you said, you searched this forum..
Yeah, I'm not newbie with cars generally Just this rotary thing is new to me and everything said in the Internet is basically scarying me about that over heating issue. That's clearly my main concern. Another problem is that where I live, there is propably 10-20 FD's in near by _countries_ and in our country there is only one that I know (which happens to be non modified), so the information isn't very much available here. That's why I'm hoping to get some opinions from you.

Do you have these parts in hand?? because I have greddy fmic and i don't think its going to be easy to converted to v mount.. If you did, you need to understand that its all about design thats going to make the difference.. at that point, it might be worth it for you to just go ahead and buy non greddy kit.. just because it seems to me that you aren't quite sure how well its going to perform.. Alot of times, trial and error will be best way to test.. So, just go ahead and start building..
I haven't got any FD fmic in stock, however I wasn't planning to use FD cooler. My idea was to see what kind of cooler fits to FD with V-mount and then search for GReddy coolers to find the right one. And if there isn't any good choice, GReddy also has intercooler parts (cores, sidetanks etc) so I can basically built one that fits.

To me at this point, its going to be hard to build a quality car just using one or two specific company to build the car.. you need to consider picking best products from different companies.. Good luck with your project!
We also carry a list of other brands like HKS, Tanabe, Buddy Club, Kaaz, Endless etc. so I can have other parts for this project. Altough the plan was to go as simple (on part manufacturers) as possible.

And once again just to be sure. I'm not after any fancy power figures, I'm just trying to built an FD which can be used in drifting without having to be afraid of engine problems.

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