Rx7 Disaster!! Help
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Rx7 Disaster!! Help
Hey guys,
It has been months since I have posted but I am definitly in need of some advice. I took my car to a body shop to get a wheel alignment. I was called and told my car was dropped off the lift. Lets fast forward to cut the convo short. Alot was damaged and my passenger side door was nearly ripped off. The insurance took care of the exterior modifications but much to my disappointment did not cover the interior electronic and other damages caused by this incident.
Things that occured afte the drop that are still not fixed:
1. Oil & Temp gage are extremely dim
2. Power windows no longer work
3. Mirror adjuster does not work
4. AC does not work
5. Left speaker does not work
5. Alarm system does not work
HELP!!!!! It seems all these things pertain to the wires in the left door that feed through the jam into the left fender. I messed around with the wire slightly and the spekaer came on for a split second. My left window sometimes will go up if the wire is played with everything else is not working at all.
This was most definitly one of the worst experiences I have had when it comes to automobiles. Actually it was so bad that prior to this incidence I had finally had my car where i wanted, repainted, nearly full 99 spec (front and rear, emblems etc) and now its up for sale.
~Mike
It has been months since I have posted but I am definitly in need of some advice. I took my car to a body shop to get a wheel alignment. I was called and told my car was dropped off the lift. Lets fast forward to cut the convo short. Alot was damaged and my passenger side door was nearly ripped off. The insurance took care of the exterior modifications but much to my disappointment did not cover the interior electronic and other damages caused by this incident.
Things that occured afte the drop that are still not fixed:
1. Oil & Temp gage are extremely dim
2. Power windows no longer work
3. Mirror adjuster does not work
4. AC does not work
5. Left speaker does not work
5. Alarm system does not work
HELP!!!!! It seems all these things pertain to the wires in the left door that feed through the jam into the left fender. I messed around with the wire slightly and the spekaer came on for a split second. My left window sometimes will go up if the wire is played with everything else is not working at all.
This was most definitly one of the worst experiences I have had when it comes to automobiles. Actually it was so bad that prior to this incidence I had finally had my car where i wanted, repainted, nearly full 99 spec (front and rear, emblems etc) and now its up for sale.
~Mike
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Hey guys,
It has been months since I have posted but I am definitly in need of some advice. I took my car to a body shop to get a wheel alignment. I was called and told my car was dropped off the lift. Lets fast forward to cut the convo short. Alot was damaged and my passenger side door was nearly ripped off. The insurance took care of the exterior modifications but much to my disappointment did not cover the interior electronic and other damages caused by this incident.
Things that occured afte the drop that are still not fixed:
1. Oil & Temp gage are extremely dim
2. Power windows no longer work
3. Mirror adjuster does not work
4. AC does not work
5. Left speaker does not work
5. Alarm system does not work
HELP!!!!! It seems all these things pertain to the wires in the left door that feed through the jam into the left fender. I messed around with the wire slightly and the spekaer came on for a split second. My left window sometimes will go up if the wire is played with everything else is not working at all.
This was most definitly one of the worst experiences I have had when it comes to automobiles. Actually it was so bad that prior to this incidence I had finally had my car where i wanted, repainted, nearly full 99 spec (front and rear, emblems etc) and now its up for sale.
~Mike
It has been months since I have posted but I am definitly in need of some advice. I took my car to a body shop to get a wheel alignment. I was called and told my car was dropped off the lift. Lets fast forward to cut the convo short. Alot was damaged and my passenger side door was nearly ripped off. The insurance took care of the exterior modifications but much to my disappointment did not cover the interior electronic and other damages caused by this incident.
Things that occured afte the drop that are still not fixed:
1. Oil & Temp gage are extremely dim
2. Power windows no longer work
3. Mirror adjuster does not work
4. AC does not work
5. Left speaker does not work
5. Alarm system does not work
HELP!!!!! It seems all these things pertain to the wires in the left door that feed through the jam into the left fender. I messed around with the wire slightly and the spekaer came on for a split second. My left window sometimes will go up if the wire is played with everything else is not working at all.
This was most definitly one of the worst experiences I have had when it comes to automobiles. Actually it was so bad that prior to this incidence I had finally had my car where i wanted, repainted, nearly full 99 spec (front and rear, emblems etc) and now its up for sale.
~Mike
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Whatever your insurance is not covering, the shop insurance should: they are responsible!
Ask your insurance to contact the shop insurance and help you there: it's also their job!
Ask your insurance to contact the shop insurance and help you there: it's also their job!
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No kidding on that one. If I were you, I'd be going after that shop with a vengeance. They are 100% liable, and their insurance should cover the repair completely. You should not have to settle for a half *** repair.
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If you are young, the shop is BETTING that you don't have the cajones to challenge them, I can almost guarantee it.
And they will likely try to get in your face and try to make you very uncomfortable, hoping you will just go away.
Personally, this is one reason why at an early age I started using a lawyer for nearly every incident like this. You won't believe the difference between showing up with a guy that starts off quoting valid issues, statutes, laws, etc and gets right to business vs going in by yourself. And usually you can get a free initial consultation and then pay as little as $250 bucks for representation. Check around, go thru your Yellow Pages or ask around.
That shop has to be one of THE most ****-poor examples of competency I have heard about.
One thing they will almost definitely try to do is make you PROVE all that stuff worked prior to you bringing it in to them. Hopefully your car is in good to meticulous shape....goes a long way towards convincing judges if they DON'T see **** baling wired and duct taped together, you know what I mean? A well prepped car with good documentation shows you are a conscientious owner and adds validity to your claims.
Good luck!
And they will likely try to get in your face and try to make you very uncomfortable, hoping you will just go away.
Personally, this is one reason why at an early age I started using a lawyer for nearly every incident like this. You won't believe the difference between showing up with a guy that starts off quoting valid issues, statutes, laws, etc and gets right to business vs going in by yourself. And usually you can get a free initial consultation and then pay as little as $250 bucks for representation. Check around, go thru your Yellow Pages or ask around.
That shop has to be one of THE most ****-poor examples of competency I have heard about.
One thing they will almost definitely try to do is make you PROVE all that stuff worked prior to you bringing it in to them. Hopefully your car is in good to meticulous shape....goes a long way towards convincing judges if they DON'T see **** baling wired and duct taped together, you know what I mean? A well prepped car with good documentation shows you are a conscientious owner and adds validity to your claims.
Good luck!
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I think he needs help figuring out his electrical issues, not whether he has the ***** to deal with it..
I had alot of the same issues. 2 that were combined with eachother was my windows did not work and niether did the mirror adjuster. What it ended up being for me was a bad Ground conection going thru the frame/door joint cionnector. I added a ground to the door wire harness side and BAM, everything worked again.
The speakers sound to be a similar issue. Intermittent electrical stuff is most commonly a bad connector,.. or more likely a bad ground. Espeacialy if they had to paint anything.
try giving a good ground and PM me back for more help if needed. I'll do what i can.
Dave
BTW: It is easier than you think to have a car fall off a lift. If the lift does not self level while lifting ( like Old post lifts that have seperate controls) One side only needs to be slightly uneven to allow the car to tip off balance. Still, the car should have been secured or at least checked for stability.
I had alot of the same issues. 2 that were combined with eachother was my windows did not work and niether did the mirror adjuster. What it ended up being for me was a bad Ground conection going thru the frame/door joint cionnector. I added a ground to the door wire harness side and BAM, everything worked again.
The speakers sound to be a similar issue. Intermittent electrical stuff is most commonly a bad connector,.. or more likely a bad ground. Espeacialy if they had to paint anything.
try giving a good ground and PM me back for more help if needed. I'll do what i can.
Dave
BTW: It is easier than you think to have a car fall off a lift. If the lift does not self level while lifting ( like Old post lifts that have seperate controls) One side only needs to be slightly uneven to allow the car to tip off balance. Still, the car should have been secured or at least checked for stability.
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i agree with the above posts, hold the shop liable. your insurance company should have never even been involved. That will just make your rates go up. Although if the shop is small and doesnt have insurance it might be difficult to even get money out of them, but i would at least try, worse yet if it was a friend or something doing the work.
Now as far as your current problems, download the FSM if you don't have it. Or the body elect system manual, its floating around here somewhere, and start tracing circuits around. it wont be easy, im pretty sure most of those are on separate circuits. but maybe you will get lucky and find a large connector thats half connected.
Now as far as your current problems, download the FSM if you don't have it. Or the body elect system manual, its floating around here somewhere, and start tracing circuits around. it wont be easy, im pretty sure most of those are on separate circuits. but maybe you will get lucky and find a large connector thats half connected.
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BTW: It is easier than you think to have a car fall off a lift. If the lift does not self level while lifting ( like Old post lifts that have seperate controls) One side only needs to be slightly uneven to allow the car to tip off balance. Still, the car should have been secured or at least checked for stability.
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I will definitly need all your guys help in getting this depressing, annoying and stressful incident taken care of
Every post here is insightful and helpful information. I took sometime to read each post carefully and came to the conclusion that I should most likely NOT be fixing these issues because I am not at fault. The thing that worries me is the whole situation was settled maybe 2 months ago, however I never signed a release agreement of any sort. It definitly feels good to hear reassurance that Im not in the bad and I can get what I deserve, which is reinbursement from this kind of terrible incident. I think I might start with the shop and explain to them all the things that have gone wrong and see what they suggest from there. I am currently unemployed but used to work as a paralegal for a personal injury/real estate attorney. I could always have that attorney support me if needed. Also being unemployed and a college student paying for everything on my own I cant afford the time or money to fix all these things. As for some people asking what kind of condition my car was in before this accident, well the car was literally dingless. After countless hours of taking it to body shops and obviously the lift drop it honestly feels like the car is nowhere near where it was before and that hurts after all the work money and energy I put into getting it to where it was. I do want to look in that dimished cost of the vehicle thing people are talking about however I have no idea about that. Again I dont need to profit off the company although that would be nice all I want was what was broken to be fixed. Thanks again guys Ill def keep you posted on what happens this monday when I contact them and from there you can tell me what you think.
Every post here is insightful and helpful information. I took sometime to read each post carefully and came to the conclusion that I should most likely NOT be fixing these issues because I am not at fault. The thing that worries me is the whole situation was settled maybe 2 months ago, however I never signed a release agreement of any sort. It definitly feels good to hear reassurance that Im not in the bad and I can get what I deserve, which is reinbursement from this kind of terrible incident. I think I might start with the shop and explain to them all the things that have gone wrong and see what they suggest from there. I am currently unemployed but used to work as a paralegal for a personal injury/real estate attorney. I could always have that attorney support me if needed. Also being unemployed and a college student paying for everything on my own I cant afford the time or money to fix all these things. As for some people asking what kind of condition my car was in before this accident, well the car was literally dingless. After countless hours of taking it to body shops and obviously the lift drop it honestly feels like the car is nowhere near where it was before and that hurts after all the work money and energy I put into getting it to where it was. I do want to look in that dimished cost of the vehicle thing people are talking about however I have no idea about that. Again I dont need to profit off the company although that would be nice all I want was what was broken to be fixed. Thanks again guys Ill def keep you posted on what happens this monday when I contact them and from there you can tell me what you think.
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I will definitly need all your guys help in getting this terrible incident taken care of
Every post here is insightful and helpful information. I will take sometime to read each post carefully and assess the situation from there. It definitly feels good to hear reassurance that Im not in the bad and I can get what I deserve, which is reinbursement from this kind of terrible incident. I am currently unemployed but used to work as a paralegal for a personal injury/real estate attorney. I could always have him support me if anything went wrong. I do want to look in that dimished cost of the vehicle thing people are talking about however I have no idea about that. Thanks again guys Ill def keep you posted on what happens this monday and from there you can tell me what you think.
Every post here is insightful and helpful information. I will take sometime to read each post carefully and assess the situation from there. It definitly feels good to hear reassurance that Im not in the bad and I can get what I deserve, which is reinbursement from this kind of terrible incident. I am currently unemployed but used to work as a paralegal for a personal injury/real estate attorney. I could always have him support me if anything went wrong. I do want to look in that dimished cost of the vehicle thing people are talking about however I have no idea about that. Thanks again guys Ill def keep you posted on what happens this monday and from there you can tell me what you think.
In all honesty....i would talk to your lawyer buddy about what your options are. If that was my car....i would've called my lawyer the second i heard/saw what happend. And please dont let that body shop tell you they'll fix it. No matter what....take it to somewhere else if you want it done right.
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Agreed. Do not work on it yourself. If something goes wrong later on down the road you have no one to hold responsible and you are stuck right back at square one.
Have a professional work on the car, this way you know it is done right. If i had a choice to have a pro rebuild my engine vs myself i would chose the pro. As they said do not let them do the work. They have already proven they cannot even handle putting your car on a lift.
Most auto places should have insurance to cover their *** in any situation. Make them use it. Have it done right and done right the first time. If something still isnt right have it redone.
You are entitled to your car being put back to the way it was. In all the times i have put my car or anyone elses car on a lift i have never once dropped it. That is just pure stupidity.
Have a professional work on the car, this way you know it is done right. If i had a choice to have a pro rebuild my engine vs myself i would chose the pro. As they said do not let them do the work. They have already proven they cannot even handle putting your car on a lift.
Most auto places should have insurance to cover their *** in any situation. Make them use it. Have it done right and done right the first time. If something still isnt right have it redone.
You are entitled to your car being put back to the way it was. In all the times i have put my car or anyone elses car on a lift i have never once dropped it. That is just pure stupidity.
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I also agree that the shop is liable and he should try to hold them accountable.( I think he already knew/knows that) But he asked for help and he got some. He didn't ask if he should get a lawyer.If every owner that had a shop do something wrong waited until the "law" fixed it ,..Noone would be driving a rx7
Plus should he have to wait in the mean time while it is handled within our "swift" justice system? No, hence the advice to try a ground. He can always pull it off when the shop is asked to fix it.
Plus should he have to wait in the mean time while it is handled within our "swift" justice system? No, hence the advice to try a ground. He can always pull it off when the shop is asked to fix it.
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Your electrical probs
the main door loom is on a plug that plugs into the door pillar,pull the rubber back and check the connections,and look from the in side of the pillar and check there,un plug it and look at both ends to see if there is any damage,your elecs wont work if there is no circuit n it sounds like the plug could be not connected properly
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Yeah I believe its all related to the wires running through the door jam into the front passanger fender. The body shop asked me to contact the Insurance company however I already contacted them about the damage and they sent me a check for 280 dollers. This covered:
The speaker and mirror control fix.
I am going to ask for additional money for fixing the dim oil and temp guage as well as the power windows, the AC not working does not sound like it was related to the incident and might just be a coincidence
Thanks again for your guys input I just need to find a reliable bodyshop and hopefully I will get all this fixed...
The speaker and mirror control fix.
I am going to ask for additional money for fixing the dim oil and temp guage as well as the power windows, the AC not working does not sound like it was related to the incident and might just be a coincidence
Thanks again for your guys input I just need to find a reliable bodyshop and hopefully I will get all this fixed...