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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Question Roll cage

Does anyone know where I can get a full roll cage for a 3ed Gen RX-7?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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www.kirkracing.com

Its not on thier site I don't think, call or send them an email.

I have thier roll bar and its great quality.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Huh hooooooo, thank you very much you guys. Big help.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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the ones avaliable are usually just roll bars....

Full roll cages take up too much of the little room we have in the RX7
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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I believe cusco makes one also. That M2 one is beautiful though.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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does anyone know if its ok(by NHRA rules) to use a rollcage with 2 bends on the bar behind the seats?
i mean can i use a bar that lets me recline both seats?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Oooooh good question.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Do you need a full cage for club racing or will a roll bar like that work?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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I believe the Kirk roll bar is approved for solo I & solo II. I am not POSITIVE of this fact. but i heard it on another thread about their products. call them to be sure!
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 12:35 AM
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Well I was hoping for a full roll cage, but it is true what they say, the RX-7 space is pretty stressed already and I only plan to be in Solo I and II next summer, and well when I lose grips with relaity I also hope to be in next years D1........I'm doomed. But I htink the roll bars will work. Thats a good question though I will have to see if SCCA solo allows them or not.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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what about drag racing?
can you have bends in the bar behind both seats?
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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They also make a full weld in cage.
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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sorry to bring a dead post back 2 life... but can anyone give me some advice as to which is the best roll cage? also best roll cage for the money? (im lookin primarily for bolt-on roll cages)

dunno which ones are bolt on, but i saw the kirk racing and M2 ones... taking into consideration that it's virtually impossible to get anything from M2 nowadays...

thanx
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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just remember that cages are REALLY unsafe in a crash w/o a helmet
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Old Sep 28, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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<<just remember that cages are REALLY unsafe in a crash w/o a helmet>>

u def have a point...but that's why a lotta ppl who have roll cages and drive their cars on the road have padding around the cage...
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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still is ridiculously dangerous... the car doesn't perform as it should... search in the 2nd gen section for roll cages... you'll see
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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Padding or not, your head won't take even a mild impact into a bar.

I have a roll *bar* in my car that is well behind my seat and padded to the hilt...but a decent jolt that knocks me out of my site and I could hit it pretty good. A full roll *cage* with bars across the top next to your head and along the sides would be a disaster even in the most mild of accidents...that is a car I would only trailer to the track.

My car only sees occasional street use...but still a risk. Currently use my regular seat belts on the street because I haven't decided if it would be safer to use my 5-pt harness because of the bar.

Not sure what is meant by handles different with a bar, because my car handles MUCH better with it.
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:18 AM
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After re-reading this, he means the car performs different in an accident when there is a bar/cage in the car. I would agree with this for sure.

The car with just a bar in it probably would be fairly close and may even provide slightly more protection in a side impact.

A *cage* would make the car very stiff and less impact would be absorbed making the car actually much less safe to be inside...without a helmet, safety suit, gloves, etc. You end up being a pinball bouncing around...not good without some protection to the head. Even securely strapped in a seat, you would be surprised how much, and how far, you body moves around during an accident.

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still is ridiculously dangerous... the car doesn't perform as it should... search in the 2nd gen section for roll cages... you'll see
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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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so ud actually advise AGAINST gettin a roll cage for a car that's driven on the road as well as track? (there will b a good portion of the time when u wont be wearin a helmet when drivin)?
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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Just alway wear a helmet when you drive! Hellen keller style!
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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so ud actually advise AGAINST gettin a roll cage for a car that's driven on the road as well as track? (there will b a good portion of the time when u wont be wearin a helmet when drivin)?
Yes, I would not drive a car with a full cage on the street at all. Padded roll bar, maybe a little more...but still not safe.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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So you guys think getting in a bad enough accident to where your body is thrown around enough to hit the cage,.... would not have an equally if not more damaging effect on a standard cwr? If your wrecking THAT hard you or(your head) aren't going to like the results of the crash regardless. Cage or not!! I can't tell you how many people have died out here cause cars flip over in the lava fields and the roof(head area) crushes onto there skulls!! A cage would have made this MUCH safer!!! Just my 2 cents tough.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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alright, and of those who you say would be saved... their heads would hit to top of the bar and kill them before their skulls were crushed... and those that had mild side impacts would die too... and those in little front accidents wwould die too... and thoise who are rear ended would die too... just remember there is a reason why sports cars and others don't come with rollcages...
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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And if they weren't killed in one of those minor accidents then they would probably have serious brain damage. It doesn't take much of a hit from a steel bar to end a good thing.
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