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Old 09-18-16, 11:46 AM
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Relay clattering behind dash

Hey guys,

a problem on my fd occured like overnight, i hadn't changed anything so i don't know what it caused but hopefully you could help me:

When i turn the ignition on (not starting), there is a relay clattering behind the dash, that sounds much like the indicator relay (which it is not), just at a lower frequency. It also keeps clattering when i start the engine, i had checked indicators (then you hear both relays clattering), wipers, warning lights, any key in the car.

When i remove the key, i recognized that the small red light nex to the ignition lock is flashing (or at least flickering, but no steady light as it should be) - similar for the door lock light, no steady light, it goes on and off....

Kind of confusing is, the battery shouldn't be the problem, i had checked the voltage, seems fine.


Any ideas what it is...?
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It could be the factory immobilizer. I had the same issue recently, turned out to be the immobilizer, a little black box under the dash.
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...well, i will check that. Do i have to take the whole cluster out to get access to it and how can i identify it? or does it sit behind the ignition key lock?

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+1 for the factory immobilizer. I also had the same issue. Shortly thereafter the car wouldn't start on occasion. Look for the "click-click-no start" thread, it has all the info you need. It's easy to get to and you don't have to remove anything to bypass it.
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...should be a great help, but i couldn't find the thread. I searched for "click-click no start" and it just showed 2 threads including mine, do you have a link for me?

Or if it was deleted, what have you done? Just change the relay?

thanks
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Old 09-25-16, 04:02 AM
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...as it turns out, it has nothing to do with the immobilizer...

The Problem is a small box, with 2 connectors, where also the beeper seems located in.

It seems the problem is temperature sensitive or a loose conctact.


Can anyone tell me what that box is and how it is called, i will check if a new one can solve the problem...
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Where is this box located? Under the dash or in the driver's side footwell panel? Take a pic.
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Its the CPU No.2, exactly under the drivers side footwell, i guess its a common problem.

Just have to check if there are differences between LHD and RHD and if later spec FD boxes will also fit (perhaps they have different connectors).
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Yes, CPU #2 has the "beeping" sound coming from it. It has FD01 written on it. Here is a pic of the part:



I note you are in Germany. Here in North America, the part is no longer available. I know this because I bought the last one and it came from Canada.

The capacitors are known to go bad and are not that difficult to repair. There are a few threads on the forum on how to remove and replace them.

Or, contact Fritz Flynn. He probably has an extra CPU unit for sale. Good luck.
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It's still available new from Japan for around 140USD plus shipping... should be applicable in RHD and LHD cars
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^ What sites do you recommend to purchase new from Japan? There are a number of other FD parts that are no longer available here and I'd like to see if I can get them new.

Thanks!
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