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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Rebuilding engine price?

I have been a first gen owner all my life and i came across a third gen the needs an engine rebuild and some body work. I was wondering how much typically it cost to rebuild the eninge when doing the work yourself. I know that it depeneds on what is wrong (apex more than likely) but what can i expect to be putting into it, min and max?

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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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The rebuild kits start around $600 for the basic kits. Most likely, you'll need/want the full kit so you can expect in the least $1000 for the rebuild kit itself.

Most of the money goes to misc things that you'll take care of while after the engine is rebuild and ready to be installed:

new fuel lines
new coolant lines
gasket kit
new vacuum lines
new fuel pulsation damper
fuel injectors cleaned and flow balanced
etc...

Also, depending on the damage from the engine, it's possible the turbos are damaged. If they can be rebuilt, that would be another $700-1000. If they are an unusable core, then you'll just have to flat replace them. New sets run about $2000 but you can sometimes find good used sets much cheaper if you can wait.

Depending on the condition of the car, you could spend well over $6000 doing it right and getting it back on the road.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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yikes. maybe i can work with the guy on the price than.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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$2500, and I was lucky to find housings from a T2 that only had 45,000 miles for free. That was only because of a coolant seal.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Mahjik's list is perfect. Its basically what I did to the car I bought. Exept my car was in perfect condition other than a blown motor.

3 other items I'd like to add to that list is that you might also need a wiring harness ($600) and maybe clutch (~$300?) and maybe motor mounts (~$300 Gotham Racing Urethane).
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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why would you need a new wiring harness?
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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why would you need a new wiring harness?
Depending on the age of the car, the wiring harness gets extremely brittle from the underhood temps. If there are quite a few miles on the car and it still has the original wire harness, you can easily damage it from just removing connections during the engine tear down process.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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i would really have to take this in concideration. I might be better off buying a running one becuase of all the money that i would need to sink into it it would put me about the 10k range atleast. I'm going to look at it tomorrow so i will now how much i will have to sink into this money pit
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Well, if you could get it for cheap. Say $5k. Then spend $10k on it, building it up with all new parts, and observing everything or doing it yourself. You'd know exactly the condition of the car (which would be great), have a great understanding of what was wrong with it. And be able to diagnose or fix anything that went wrong later on down the road. Which should be fairly far down the road considering that you just did basically a ground up resto. So for $15k, you'd have a very mint condition FD built to exactly what YOU want. $15k for a near perfect FD with all of your chosen changes, is an unbeatable price.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc01
Well, if you could get it for cheap. Say $5k. Then spend $10k on it, building it up with all new parts, and observing everything or doing it yourself. You'd know exactly the condition of the car (which would be great), have a great understanding of what was wrong with it. And be able to diagnose or fix anything that went wrong later on down the road. Which should be fairly far down the road considering that you just did basically a ground up resto. So for $15k, you'd have a very mint condition FD built to exactly what YOU want. $15k for a near perfect FD with all of your chosen changes, is an unbeatable price.
im only 19 working part time and going to school. So 15k is a big investment for me right now, but i am willing to do it.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:54 AM
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I just always install mazda reman engines. that way you know that you will have a set price to pay for the engine($2000). a basic seal kit is a little over $100, and if the car has a good clutch, you dont have much more money to spend. I have done about 5 engine swaps, and have never come across an apex seal going through the turbos. I usually have a car back on the road with a reman for around $2300.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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I've blown my engine twice due to apex seals, and killed all connected turbos (twins the first time, RX6 the second time) both times. The person I bought the RX6 kit blew his engine and damaged the turbo, too. I had it fixed before it went on my car. The damage is usually invisible unless you remove the turbine from the housing.

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Maxcooper is right. When I blew my motor earlier this year the stock twins were really trashed. I blew out all three apex seals in the rear rotor. Wasn't pretty at all.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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what are signs of bad apex seals?? is there any way to diagnosis if the seals are bad or starting to get there??
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by prjctRx7
what are signs of bad apex seals?? is there any way to diagnosis if the seals are bad or starting to get there??
Compression test.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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well the car was trash. I would not have giving him more than 1000 bucks for it. So it looks like i'll be staying in the first gen section for alittle while longer. The dream was fun anyways
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