mfigr1

Has anyone ever had to replace their right rear quarter panel. I was trying to get an idea of what type of labor and cost is involved.

dgeesaman

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offhand i'd say it's not easy since it's integral to the roof panel.

Dave

skunks

you gotta either cut it off and weld in a new one or make a copy of someone elses one, on average i found it cost about 400-700 bucks depending on where/if you can even find it. i made one out of CF and it was not very hard but i do that type of stuff. good luck in anycase.

expl0d

My dad (bodyshop owner) said id be around 1700 at a body shop with labor, paint, he said depending on the situation you might have to go up to the roof. Its hard to say since you didnt supply a picture or any other details.

4Fun

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350 for the panel from mazda, install and paint is about 1400, so explOd user is correct on the price. Hopefully you didnt do any damage to the wheel ie pushed the wheel in. Anyways its cheaper to buy it (1/4 panel)from mazda than to buy it and have it shipped.

Just a FYI
If you have the shop buy any parts at all they tack on a surcharge for them to buy the part. Thats what the shop that fixed my car said after I asked what the total price was for the parts and I found out it was more than what I could buy it for. So I cornered them and asked whats the deal and thats what I found out it was a 15% upcharge.

good luck anyways

mfigr1

Thank you guys for the help. Sorry I don't have any pics but I saw the car at the shop. I'm getting a full repaint and everything was going good until they got to the rear quarter panel while sanding. It looks like the person who owned the car before had someone sculp the fender out of bondo. The bodyshop showed me how the panel would have to be cut right by the roofline and replaced. That was the last thing I expected so i wanted to get an idea of what people had payed. Do you guys have a part number for the mazda replacement part?

fd3s93

i was gona ask you whos gona do the work but i guess its already at the bodyshop.. so nvm

911GT2

Go to www.iluvmyrx7.com and take a look at the parts manual. I'd look for you, but I'm lazy

Mahjik

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Sgtblue

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 4Fun
Just a FYI
If you have the shop buy any parts at all they tack on a surcharge for them to buy the part. Thats what the shop that fixed my car said after I asked what the total price was for the parts and I found out it was more than what I could buy it for. So I cornered them and asked whats the deal and thats what I found out it was a 15% upcharge.

I'm thinking this should be obvious. Next time you go out to eat, take your steak into the restaurant and ask them to cook it for you and see what they say. A "Body Shop", or now they like "Collision Repair Facility" gets a mark-up on the parts, but they have to stand behind them. If one is defective or doesn't fit, they'll have to replace it etc. Don't know exactly how it goes, but they used to call it "re-sale" or "jobber" cost. Terms may vary. It's a price that the parts suppliers offer shops but NOT the general public.

rajeevx7

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Had mine done and it came to $2200 with pass. door and rear bumper repainted and new panel welded in half way up the rear roof pillar.
Oh, and they painted my interior plastic panels after I removed them and re-cleared my stock rims.
On top of it all, that price included my custom paint they had to match.
Not sure if that helps, but seems like I've been in the same situation before.

Raj

REDNECK

how bout if you were to say, have large dents and/or road rash on all panels except the roof and the bottom of the rear hatch, (i.e. the bumpers, the doors, the rims, and a wheel bent under, and a little damage on the hood.) Thats totalled, right?

rynberg

I've recently dealt with this situation and know something about it. In the opinion of a first-class body shop here in the area, that panel should only be replaced if ABSOLUTELY necessary. Most shops will not do the replacement panel 100% correctly. Also, they will have to use a lot of bondo to fit the replacement panel in, so what are you gaining?

My advice is to repair the existing panel rather than replace it if at all possible.

Sgtblue

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I disagree. It's been awhile, but I worked my way through college in my Dad's shop. There are variables here that can't be addressed without pictures, but if his first repair was that botched, it might need a new quarter. Even w/ the PPF, FD's are (essentially) unibody contruction. In order to maintain overall intergrity and safety, it may need to be replaced. IF DONE CORRECTLY, very little filler, PERHAPS LESS THAN THE MANUFACTURER should be needed. In addition, labor hours to CORRECTLY repair the botched panel may equal or exceed the number of hours needed to replace it. To use your phrase, "what are you gaining?"It really isn't that bad of job for a well equipped shop and a skilled tech.

4Fun

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sgtblue

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Fun
Just a FYI
If you have the shop buy any parts at all they tack on a surcharge for them to buy the part. Thats what the shop that fixed my car said after I asked what the total price was for the parts and I found out it was more than what I could buy it for. So I cornered them and asked whats the deal and thats what I found out it was a 15% upcharge.

I'm thinking this should be obvious. Next time you go out to eat, take your steak into the restaurant and ask them to cook it for you and see what they say. A "Body Shop", or now they like "Collision Repair Facility" gets a mark-up on the parts, but they have to stand behind them. If one is defective or doesn't fit, they'll have to replace it etc. Don't know exactly how it goes, but they used to call it "re-sale" or "jobber" cost. Terms may vary. It's a price that the parts suppliers offer shops but NOT the general public.

I little touchie are we. I dont mind a guy making a living but when they charge you retail plus 15% thats a bit much for me. Mind you Im taking about a brand new part direct from mazda. So there is no worrie about fitment. As for getting parts from mazda most guys that I have found at the parts desk will give you a discount from the retail price. So to sum it up I save enough to make it worth my time even if the repair shop hard times me.

Sgtblue

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Not touchy at all. Sorry if I sounded that way. Just have a different perspective on it I guess. And I agree, NO BODY should pay retail. Retail is that mythical figure reserved for...uh...people who pay the "suggested retail price".
I think this is a price that makes game-show contestants feel better about the worthless crap they've won.
But the shop getting 15% on parts they have to order, handle and stand behind for the customer isn't sneaky or sinister. You can bet that insurance companies wouldn't pay it if they felt it wasn't fair.

4Fun

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Fair enough.
LOL @ game-show comment !!

kundo

I have a quick question what about replacing the whole rear clip of the car? would the car lose any structural intregrity? Just curious since you guys seem educated on body work

REDNECK

good question. I wanna know.
Ryan.

Sgtblue

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I never had my FD apart to the extent of knowing how the rear "clip" is joined, but if I had to guess, it can be done. As for integrity, IF DONE PROPERLY, it shouldn't lose any integrity. But tolerances on modern unibody cars are amazingly small, so having confidence in you shop to do it right would be important.
Be careful, while it may be possible, it might not be cost effective. Your talking some major coin here...dropping the rear suspension and dif, gas tank and lines, all controls, electrical and interior from the dash back etc. $$$$. Then starting on the body, more $$$$$. Then putting everything back!? Personally, if my car needed that, I'd be looking for a new car. Big difference in needing a quarter "skin" vs needing a whole new back end.
Again, I've been out of that business for a long time. There have gotta be some members out there that know more than me. Maybe be a good subject for a seperate thread? In any event, good luck.

REDNECK

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=256771

and I probably should be looking for a new car, but I doubt that insurance is gonna pay for one, and I like mine.

Ryan.

4Fun

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The rear panel is just a skin of sorts. There is an inner structure that does most of the work. Im sure the skin does help a bit but most is done under the sheet metal. Now if the inner is tweaked then thats a huge bill. I doubt if you can even buy the inner part by itself. I would call mazdarecycling to find out. or www.mazdarecycling.com

user 9348703

cut and paste at a good bodyshop is I think the best bang for your buck.

I cant say too much, but IMHO dont use BONDO