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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Rats nest -- almost done



Full write-up coming soon. I did the hose job, fuel injectors, rewrapped the harness, new super check valves, etc.

Car has been down for 2 weeks and counting. I've been taking my time though...usually about an hour per night after the wife and kid are asleep. That way, they can't hear me cuss.

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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You never thought about going non sequential?
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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You never thought about going non sequential?
Nah...not yet anyway. I haven't owned/driven the car long enough to know if I wanna get rid of the sequential power delivery. So far, I like it. Then there's the whole emissions thing.

I was seriously looking into doing the "simplified sequential" setup, but doing it requires removal of the ACV and subsequently the air pump. That's a can of worms I don't want to get into (yet).

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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I hear ya, im going thru the same right now, i'm going to remove all emissions junk and go non-sequential once I learn to handle my car well. I still havent not driven my FD in the 2yrs i've owned it.. Hopefully this friday will be the first day shes out and ready!
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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so how many solenoids did you break?
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Did you remove the lower intake manifold and get the one behind there?
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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I broke 2 solenoid nipples, but I was able to repair both of them. It's one of the many times that reminds me how nice it is to have a drill press.

John: I'm not sure which one you're talking about? I removed the alternator, rats nest, coils, and fuel rails. I replaced some of the turbo hoses, but most of them are still in good shape. I think the turbos on the car are not that old. The hoses in the rats nest were the originals as far as I can tell.

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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There is a vacuum hose that goes to the back of the lower intake manifold. It is a real bitch to get to. You have to remove the turbos and then the LIM. Keep it in mind if you ever have the engine out.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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I am so glad Rotary Performance did that for me when they did my streetport. Just looking at that made me cuss. lol
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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That's a good picture. I like how your wires are covered. I've been taking off the brittle plastic and tie wrapping silicone over mine. The wires get more brittle then the hoses and a new harness is bank.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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Sonny I did mine about three weeks ago and you will really notice the difference. By the way, while you have access to the solenoids check em. I found two that had very high resistance.

Ther best price I have found for a new harness is around $600 and that I ain't doin'. But mine is really hard-baked.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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Did you re-check your injectors before you put them in?
I was too stupid to re-check them. And one of the primary was completely closed. ={
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Where did you get the hose from? What brand? Looks good...keep it up.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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yes I did the silicone rats nest rebuild too.....I see you found a way to fix the broken nipples...I took ink pens....took out the pen part and cut the tubing and then super glue it worked great......unfortunantly my coolent seals went out so I am going back in now and taking everything off again....good luck on yours...
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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I checked all of the solenoids' resistance and verified that they were working by applying 12v. Almost every check valve was leaking.

I did not check the injectors, but I still have access to them so I can do that. I have had RC do injectors for me before though, so I'm not super worried.

The hose kit is the Hose Techniques kit. It's expensive ($118), but it looks like I'm gonna have a lot of extra silicon hose and the cutter is nice. It's a cigar cutter as far as I can tell, but that's one less trip to Walmart.

The wire loom is from McMaster. It's their 300 deg F nylon loom. The standard automotive stuff is 200 deg F. I wanted to do silicon tape, but the tape I got wasn't sticky enough.

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Wow... just wow...

BTW, did you post this on HondaTech? I seem to remember seeing that pic on there a day or so ago...

I intend to just replace things as they break, hopefully catch them before they break. Once I have my girl paid off and a home of my own she will take a 4 month slumber whilst I redo her inside and out... Big parts of that include either a simplified sequential or parralell BNR S2's... they seem to be a winner amounst the crowd.

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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I am in the middle of doing my hose job now. I look forward to Sonny's write up. I am doing mine on week-ends and have missed last week end due to my son's baseball tournament. I hope I can get it back together after not looking at it for 2 weeks. I managed to only break one solenoid and lose one of the phillips screws when removing the nest. Fortunately I purchased extra solenoids from the forum from someone going single.

Hey TCB100, what is the resistance rating supposed to be for the solenoids? I tested each one with a 12 volt battery and a mityvac. They all worked but I did not test them for resistance.
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