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Old 01-22-03, 01:51 AM
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Pulling engine,, some questions/problems!

i just got in from working on my car (93 touring).
i have the exhuast and DP removed, the turbo unit(which i still dont know for sure what one it is,, ill have pics tomorow hopefully), the watstegate and turbo mani are off, radiator, stock IC, upper part of the intake, and some other MISC. stuff. still have to pull the drive shaft, the power brace thing, trans and whatnot.
--just a few questions...
i did a search on removing the PS,, i fricken hate PS with a passion, looks like ***, messy, less room, leaks somtimes, and i hate the false feel on the road. with all my Ex honda's when i would swap engines, PS went bye bye ASAP!
i read that people were having this "quill" thing welded up to prevent breakage. anyone have a pic of that thing? and if i dont get it welded, whats the chances of it breaking and sending my car out of control??
--i had various oil leaks,, mainly from the fittings under my oil filter going to the oil cooler, but i saw something wierd, on the inside of my eccentric shaft pully, there was a little pool of oil in the middle, behind that pully, theres no signs of leakage from the seal, nothing above it could have leaked oil into it, its wierd, engine has about 3k on rebuild, maybe a eccentric shaft seal somehow????
--i dont know what friggin turbo i have, other than a big *** one, hahah, should have pics tomorow, on the exhuast side it says Garret and a little past it,,,, .84 no other signs,, the guy i got it from claimed it was a t-78.
--above the engine and underneather the intake is all the wiring and junk all crammed in there. i have the single turbo conv. so there are many plugs conected to these little black boxes that vacuum hoses would plug into,but they dont go any where. although there arent any hoses on mine.im guessing these were used for the twin turbos to control them?? anyhow my question is if i cut out the ones i dont need will the ECU say "F you" and not run my car and i have to rewire those ******** back in? or will i be fine becuase im not using them now anyhow?
--lastly,,, due to money issues,, can the stock ECU run my car with the single turbo,3in DP and 3 in all the way back, FMIC (3row), fluidyne rad, HKS Wastegate, street ported, 3mm seals,upgraded fuel pump,all the gauges,WB, EGT(although those dont mean crap with the stock ECU) 550cc primaries and 1400cc sceondaries at 8-11 PSI? or the ECU cannot provide the right fuel curve with all those mods? my reason asking is i figured out i would have money for all that stuff listed above and come up little short for a PFC and commander, so mabye i could drive it at low low boost and be ok untill i get the funding for it.???
anyhow, the engine pulling process should be completed tomorow! if anyone wants to be a good guy and could be able to tell me what turbo i have,, i could send you a pic via email, because i dont know how to post them on here. other than that, thanks to all that respond and help me out with my car!!!
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ANYONE????
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No, stock ECU should not be used w/ a single turbo setup. You should get an ECU ASAP if you plan on going single turbo.

You might need to retype all that stuff to make it a little easier for everyone to read.

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As for all that stuff under the UIM, I think you are talking about the rat's nest. I don't you need all that junk w/ the single turbo setup. I did the non-seq. for the stock twins and took all those solenoids and vacuum hoses out. If they are not connected to anything, you probably do't need them. I can't believe the previous owner left them all in their.
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Man, who sold you this??? Claiming it was a Greddy T-78 when it says Garrett on it. He left the damn rat's nest in there? (WTF) I haven't heard of the "quill" you are talking about so I can't help you there. A stock ECU shouldn't be near a single turbo. Period. You need a Power FC. Why are you taking this engine out anyways, if I recall correctly, I think you said it only had about 3000 miles on a rebuilt engine. My advice to you is to not put that stock ECU back in. Let the car sit while you save up come money for a stand alone, or it will be sitting while your saving up for another engine...
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yeah, the rats nest is still in there loooking like a rats nest for sure. yeah i know,, kinda funny the dood claimed it was a t-78 and it has garret on it. then again, i did trade a honda civic for it. haha. im pulling the engine, becuase whoever installed it did a shitty job reconnecting oil lines and theres oil all over the place. so i want to pull everything and clean it and reinstalled properly and take my time doing so,, since i have like 4 more months. i have to pull it anyhow, beucase of some problem with my clutch/trans. im going to post that problem this forum beucase thats a whole different story. yeah, ill be saving for a PFC, commander, and datalogit for sure!
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How much did you buy it for?
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i traded my 99 civic 3 door hatchback for it, it had a acura GSR engine swap with bolt ons and a bodykit and other MISC. stuff. you can see it here-

http://hometown.aol.com/dynamit4u2/
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Hmm, I agree using the stock ecu is a bad idea. If you plan on not running any boost its ok BUT....

If you trim down the engine harness to get rid of all the crap you dont need your stock ecu will go into a seizure. You need all those plugs in there with resistors if your using a stock ecu or even a upgraded ecu. The only time you can ditch those are if your running standalone.

Personally, I'd ditch the other mods so that you can afford to get a PFC. If you can afford the total computer package right now get the PFC with NO commander and buy the datalogit instead. They pick up the commander later. The datalogit is far more usefull than a commander and they cost close to the same.

Also, the computer is more important than a wb and egt. You can check your a/f when your on the dyno tuning the PFC.

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