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Old 04-02-09, 06:29 PM
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Premix Oil, whats what?

99.9% of the time you get what you pay for, I am tossing the omp and want to start using premix. Obviously there are alot of opinions out there as to what is best for the money but my main concern is actually just, what is best? Obviously you can go get a super deal on any old 2 stroke premix oil, probably wont be synthetic but will do the job. Idemitsu premix oil from mazdatrix will run you about $20 a gallon, it's race proven and is listed as a synthetic blend. Protek R from Pettit will run you $50 a gallon, also race proven to the enth degree, and is also synthetic. Now obviously there are guys that wont pay twice the price for that last few percent of performance and safety, I don't mind. That being said I would like some input on which of the premixes is actually best for the motor, and why. Thanks.
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run 2 stroke oil from a atv, snomobile, wave runner shop. the oil is specific to tackle the piston and make sure there are no hot spots. when you see snomobiles and such with holes in the pistons that usually caused by the oil not being mixed properly or running cheap oil. it may cost alot at a honda or polaris place but its the absolute best
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I don't believe there is a significant difference between the premixes out there.

The biggest benefit is that you're premixing and the oil is designed to burn cleanly. Comparing premixes I doubt anyone could even tell the difference.
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what would be better,running premix from the gas tank or get the OMP adapter?
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ive been using valvoline 2 cycle oil with no issues. bout 1/2 oz per gallon.
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gas tank. fill with oil i do a little less than a 1:1 ratio and then fill with fuel. and there are differences out there for 2 stroke oil jsut like a 87 octane is the same gas as 91 octane but they have different octane readings. usings a quality 2 stroke oil will make all the difference. i prefer oil designed for snomobiles
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I roadraced two-stroke motorcycles professionally for many years. My choice has been Silkolene. It's expensive but I had great success with it. Klotz R-50 would be my second choice. Both might be a bit overkill for street use but if you want the best, these are my suggestions. I will be coverting my 83 GSL to premix this year and will use Klotz Techniplate TC-W2. It's about $40 per gallon (as compared to Silkolene at $100 per gallon). I have used Techinplate in my streetbikes for many years successfully. Cheaper oils (including synthetics) tend to soot more and can caused builup that sticks rings. Silkolene and Klotz R-50 have a higher film strength that is benefitial for sustained high rpm operation but for street use, Techniplate is more than adequet. Added plus... your exhaust will smell good! In my race motors, I would rebuild every 350 miles using Techniplate and could run 450 miles using R-50 or Silkolene. I made slightly better horsepower using Silkolene than R-50.
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Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port
the oil is specific to tackle the piston and make sure there are no hot spots. when you see snomobiles and such with holes in the pistons that usually caused by the oil not being mixed properly or running cheap oil.
The oil in a 2-stroke, is there to lubricate the crank bearings, both rod bearings, and put a film of oil on the cylinder.
Holes develop, because of a lean mixture (wrong jetting).
Cheap oil, will not cause any problems. as long as you have the right, oil to gas ratio's.
There is a difference however, between oils. Some are very clean burning, and have a high film strength. Some won't separate once mixed.
I prefer, a oil that will not separate, and is very clean burning. Sometimes, it's a few weeks, before I drive my car.
Don't know if your oil will separate? Then pour the mix, in a glass container, and seal it. Let it sit on a table for a few days. If it separates, you will see the oil on the bottom.
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