onefastrx7turbo

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Well, i was at the local races here in Japan, and I was talking with my japanese friend who has a Spirit R. He said that the brakes used on the RX8 are the same as the Spirit R. Now, the spirit R has the bigger disks, not sure the exact size, and the calipers have offset piston sizes, and are painted red with the polished mazda logo. pretty sweet. He also said that the RX8 brake master cylinder is bigger, too...Im assuming we can order RX8 parts now, so, that may be an alternative to brembo or other types of brake upgrades. Might be kinda expensive, though. Just passing on some info I heard...thanks

Neil

vosko

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that would be pretty cool but i don't think rx8 parts are going to be cheap

FormerPorscheGuy

Now we just need a few people state side to start wrecking them and sending them off to salvage yards so we can find out.

sirjury

unless i am missing something, all the brochures i have show the rx8 with single piston sliding calipers in the front. definitely not an upgrade from the 4 piston ones on the fd. the picture of the as yet unreleased mazdaspeed version does seem to have an aluminum caliper.

DaiOni

the mazdaspeed brake upgrade IS available. A couple of other tasty bits from their catalogue are the seats, coilovers, 19" rims and a computerised gauge display - ala r34 GTR. Actually, there seems to be a mazdaspeed three gauge unit as well - using defi gauges.

the brake package includes monoblock 4-pot calipers (blue) and slotted rotors.

to digress slightly, I have a comparison picture where they showed the air separator tank, the fan and the radiator from the last FD and the rx8 - the rx8 items are all significantly larger than the FD items.

The brake master cylinder is always listed as a problematic item for the FD, it would be no surprise if it is a vastly different unit on the rx8.

I think the bottom line is that all these items can be obtained for much less dollars from the aftermarket - as opposed to mazda or mazdaspeed

onefastrx7turbo

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Yes, i know mazda parts wont be cheap. What i meant to say was; If the part is available in the states, then chances are it will have an aftermarket. For example. My roomate is taking back a GTR. Not real smart, IMO because when it breaks, where is he going to find parts? Im sure they arent non existant, but, Im not gonna be at motorex's mercy because they are the only ones who can order me a new timing belt, or whatever. I was going to get the Spirit R brake upgrade a while back, but I thought that if I needed say, new brake rotors when I get back to the states, where would I find them for the S R brakes? But then last night when my friend told me they use the same size disks and what not, I thought, Sweet! That means that its only a matter of time before the aftermarket starts producing upgrades for the RX8..Now if they would only start making turbo kits......

DaiOni

"Im not gonna be at motorex's mercy because they are the only ones who can order me a new timing belt, or whatever"

couldn't you just order them via nissan?

same *should* go for mazda as well - check around the dealerships and find a decent parts dept

they definitely CAN get the parts, but many will just try and be a pain in the *** because they're lazy (in my experience).

SPOautos

Well if they sell enough RX8's in a year or two you can probably walk into the local Auto Zone, Advanced, or NAPA and get calipers, brembo rotors, ect ect ect

STEPHEN

the_glass_man

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Just go with the group buy on the RS/RZ brakes that is going on now.

onefastrx7turbo

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Daioni,

Nope, You cant order Skyline parts through Nissan USA. they dont even know what a skyline is, nor can they work on them. Need a new windshield for your a GTR? i guess your f*cked because there arent any in junkyards, and, you can order is from nissan, or any aftermarket windshield supply places..You gotta call motorex...screw that..besides, GTRS get their asses kicked all the time here by RX7's. There is a tuning shop in Aomori called G/force. They have a 600Hp white FC convertible (dont ask me why) running a bridgeport Fd motor with a t51rkai, hks dogmission, etc etc, they have a bridgeport FD running a T88 and a dogmission, roughly 600, 650 HP, they also have an S14, and an R32 GTR. All of these cars whoop the **** out of every car they race at the races. On a side note, GTRs are way over rated!! I have seen the proof. Im not saying they arent fast, and Im not saying they always lose. But, It takes more HP to beat an RX7 in a gtr. AWD or not, its still heavy, and its still a piston engine

DaiOni

onefastrx7turbo: well, you know just as many 7s get wiped by gtr's as well - or any other car with insane hp (and there seem to be just sooo many here). Look at tsukuba - need a 4wd car to hold a record there these days (and it used to be the domain of the 7). If you need proof - check out the lap times in option.

The 7 is one of the best, but there are plenty of awesome piston cars too - bang for buck isn't the only yardstick.

onefastrx7turbo

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Daioni,

I know, I know. BUT, the Rx7 does hold the record for FR class on tsukuba. And I think an Evo has the record for 4WD right now. Besides, I know its all about home much money someone has that ultimately determines how fast their car is. In fact, the G/force R32 skyline is fast as hell, but so is their 'vert. Im not sure which one is faster. Im just sick of the GTR getting hyped up some much, when it is in the same class as FDs and Supras. The way all the stateside rags (Super Show, and sport compact especially) treat the GTr, youd think it was gods gift to racing! Anyways, all Im saying is that they all have their advantages over the other. Fds have good acceleration, and awesome handling (and looks). Supras have excellent straight line performance, but not so good handling. GTr's are good for uh....the snow, I guess...I dunno..they do alright in the drags I suppose...

DaiOni

When you don't really have (mainstream) access to a car - and it's a car with huge hype already - then the reverence (or myth, if you want) is only going to rise.

GTRs do well on the circuit - let's face it, their times are faster than the best FR time (and I believe it's a JUN evo V which currently holds the record). The tsukuba trials probably reflect what is best on the street - and it's hard to deny that massive rpm all wheel launches are a pretty good advantage.

Also - don't forget the atessa system - they are a hybrid 4wd and more often than not they operate in a FR mode - best of both worlds - and that's a big part of what makes them so good.

Don't get me wrong, I love the FD, but I know the GTR is just as good.