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Poll ~ 93-95 or 99 spec front end?
11-12-06, 09:46 PM
#26
You guys are ******* nuts, and have absolutely no taste whatsoever. You'd NEVER see a nice sportscar with that stupid assed BRICK stuck in the nose. It's an absolute abomination that some designer should be SHOT for, or at least spend the rest of his career pushing a broom.
Oh yeah, the first silver car is MINE. No offense intended to Aristo, who owns the second car (which on ballance is a nicer car than mine), but the plateless '99 looks WAAAYYY better. It follows the NATURAL lines on the car.
Go look up pictures of Corvettes, Astons, Ferrari's, Porsches... whatever decent sports car you can find, and show me the one with a big ******* brick for a liscense plate stuck in it. Most are designed as though you won't be putting a liscense plate on it, because most people with nice cars DON'T.
Oh yeah, the first silver car is MINE. No offense intended to Aristo, who owns the second car (which on ballance is a nicer car than mine), but the plateless '99 looks WAAAYYY better. It follows the NATURAL lines on the car.
Go look up pictures of Corvettes, Astons, Ferrari's, Porsches... whatever decent sports car you can find, and show me the one with a big ******* brick for a liscense plate stuck in it. Most are designed as though you won't be putting a liscense plate on it, because most people with nice cars DON'T.
Last edited by ptrhahn; 11-12-06 at 09:48 PM.
11-12-06, 09:55 PM
#30
You honestly believe that?! Sorry, 'shopped out your plate, and the car looks twice as good. NOBODY puts liscense plates on the front of nice cars, becaus ethey ALL look better without them
Originally Posted by cloead
i had 99 spec w/ plate... looks so much better imho.
11-12-06, 10:00 PM
#31
I prefer the original 93 design. It fits the form of the car more nicely to me.
I don't really like the front plate 99 front end. The car has nice rounded form and then you have that square block protruding from the bumper.
The 99 w/o the front plate is a little better but the original 93 front end is still my preference from a looks perspective.
I don't really like the front plate 99 front end. The car has nice rounded form and then you have that square block protruding from the bumper.
The 99 w/o the front plate is a little better but the original 93 front end is still my preference from a looks perspective.
11-12-06, 10:04 PM
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^^Plated bumper still looks WAYYY better. I don't understand why your getting so upset about this. If you don't like it fine. Everyone's entitled to their opinions but you really need to relax. You honestly sound pretty stupid swearing and calling people nuts for not agreeing with you. Also, I don't care what other cars come with because they are just that OTHER cars. Not every car has to look the same. I hate this "cookie-cutter" mentality so many people tend to have.
11-12-06, 10:05 PM
#33
HUH?!?!
Do a search, and I'll bet you that the VAST, VAST majority of cars with built in bricks for front liscense plates are CHEAP peices of ****, and the VAST, VAST majority of high end or "not cheap" cars don't have them.
Our cars happen to be one of the best designs to come out of the 90's and were considered high end cars at one time. I saw them at all of the high end car dealers in the back of autoweek and such, right along with Porsches, Corvettes, and Lotuses.
Further, whether or not it IS high end, I think the best way to assess what looks good is to measure it against high end cars, NONE of which would come with that stupid assed thing on it.
Hell, the our cars didn't come with it in 93-95. You don't think the 93-95 nose looked "cheap" for it's time do you. Do you think they should have put the brick on the 93?
Do a search, and I'll bet you that the VAST, VAST majority of cars with built in bricks for front liscense plates are CHEAP peices of ****, and the VAST, VAST majority of high end or "not cheap" cars don't have them.
Our cars happen to be one of the best designs to come out of the 90's and were considered high end cars at one time. I saw them at all of the high end car dealers in the back of autoweek and such, right along with Porsches, Corvettes, and Lotuses.
Further, whether or not it IS high end, I think the best way to assess what looks good is to measure it against high end cars, NONE of which would come with that stupid assed thing on it.
Hell, the our cars didn't come with it in 93-95. You don't think the 93-95 nose looked "cheap" for it's time do you. Do you think they should have put the brick on the 93?
Originally Posted by ulost2my7
Its quite simple.
The non plate holder looks like a front end off a "cheap" car.
And our cars are not high end/exotic so it shouldnt even be considered or copied as one.
The non plate holder looks like a front end off a "cheap" car.
And our cars are not high end/exotic so it shouldnt even be considered or copied as one.
11-12-06, 10:16 PM
#34
Maybe I sound like a professional designer who is always massively disappointed in people when they prefer something ugly (which frankly, they often do).
I will caveat this to say that if you HAVE to run a front plate, I suppose you might as well get the brick because the plate will be there either way. However, I've never seen people run a plate in states where they don't have to, and I see them complain in the states where they do, because they look like crap. Front plates suck.
I will caveat this to say that if you HAVE to run a front plate, I suppose you might as well get the brick because the plate will be there either way. However, I've never seen people run a plate in states where they don't have to, and I see them complain in the states where they do, because they look like crap. Front plates suck.
Originally Posted by str8ryd
^^Plated bumper still looks WAYYY better. I don't understand why your getting so upset about this. If you don't like it fine. Everyone's entitled to their opinions but you really need to relax. You honestly sound pretty stupid swearing and calling people nuts for not agreeing with you. Also, I don't care what other cars come with because they are just that OTHER cars. Not every car has to look the same. I hate this "cookie-cutter" mentality so many people tend to have.
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11-12-06, 10:22 PM
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Whoever hacked off their front plate should remove their rights to drive an FD. That car looks extremely ugly and cheap with the front plate removed. Someone must not have been thinking right to do that modification to their FD, what a fool. It shows clearly, that the bottom picture shows how good a front plate looks.
This looks 100x better, and most nice cars will have similiar stock look to them. I would definintely keep the front plate on, always looks better!
11-12-06, 10:26 PM
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Now if you had just said that to begin with I would have agreed with you 100%. I HATE the look of front plates on any car, especially a sports car. I used to have a 99 plated bumper, but now I have a front end with no license plate. I honestly like how both of my setups looked. I prefer plateless on EVERY single bumper EXCEPT the 99 plateless. Your car still looks nice though 
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11-12-06, 10:26 PM
#38
Find me one "nice car" with a plate brick in the front of. Look up the C6 Corvette, a Viper, and Aston Martin, and a Ferrari 360, and tell me what you DON'T see stuck in the front of it.
Whoever hacked off their front plate should remove their rights to drive an FD. That car looks extremely ugly and cheap with the front plate removed. Someone must not have been thinking right to do that modification to their FD, what a fool. It shows clearly, that the bottom picture shows how good a front plate looks.
This looks 100x better, and most nice cars will have similiar stock look to them. I would definintely keep the front plate on, always looks better!
Originally Posted by fdguru
Whoever hacked off their front plate should remove their rights to drive an FD. That car looks extremely ugly and cheap with the front plate removed. Someone must not have been thinking right to do that modification to their FD, what a fool. It shows clearly, that the bottom picture shows how good a front plate looks.
This looks 100x better, and most nice cars will have similiar stock look to them. I would definintely keep the front plate on, always looks better!
11-12-06, 10:32 PM
#39
I simply cannot for the life of me figure out why the '99 Mazda RX7 is the only front end on any car on the planet that a bunch of people seem to think looks better with a liscense plate, LET ALONE a built in brick for it. It goes against everything in sportscar design that I've ever seen.
I've even heard the notion that the '99 looks like it's "smiling". OK, fair enough, but it's still smiling with the plate.... unless you're somehow staring at the plate and thus aren't looking at the smile.
But the "Cheap" arguement blows me away. Is there a plate brick on a Viper? NO. On a Ferrari 360? NO. C6 Vette? NO. Porsche 911? NO.
There IS a plate brick on my wife's GEO PRISM though... it's virtually the HALLMARK of cheap.
I've even heard the notion that the '99 looks like it's "smiling". OK, fair enough, but it's still smiling with the plate.... unless you're somehow staring at the plate and thus aren't looking at the smile.
But the "Cheap" arguement blows me away. Is there a plate brick on a Viper? NO. On a Ferrari 360? NO. C6 Vette? NO. Porsche 911? NO.
There IS a plate brick on my wife's GEO PRISM though... it's virtually the HALLMARK of cheap.
Originally Posted by str8ryd
Now if you had just said that to begin with I would have agreed with you 100%. I HATE the look of front plates on any car, especially a sports car. I used to have a 99 plated bumper, but now I have a front end with no license plate. I honestly like how both of my setups looked. I prefer plateless on EVERY single bumper EXCEPT the 99 plateless. Your car still looks nice though .
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11-12-06, 10:33 PM
#40
Okay here, my 93 front has no plate and looks great without one. I prefer my 93 without a plate. The 99 front bumper would look good with no plate if it was a perfect fit and mazda had made it from the factory. Truth is, no one makes a 99 front bumper without a plate that looks good. You'd have to do too much tweeking to even get it close to specs. The 99 original needs a plate there to look good. It needs a custom plate like wanklins to get the job done. The reason it looks so good, is because it says RX-7. Half the time people don't know what the hell I drive. 1 more, police have never given me a problem about no l plate on my 93 front.
-Jeff
-Jeff
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11-12-06, 10:47 PM
#42
How's that? There are two different plateless '99 bumpers on the market that are the '99 nose minus the brick. THE BRICK is the add-on. It doesn't need "tweaking" to look good without it, because it was OBVIOUSLY designed without it first, and the brick was added later. All you have to do is squint a little and you can see how the line would've continued without it there.
There is absolutely no continuity to the plate box shape... it doesn't even look like a part of the cars design. It's a brick.
There is absolutely no continuity to the plate box shape... it doesn't even look like a part of the cars design. It's a brick.
Originally Posted by TRISPEEDFD3S
Truth is, no one makes a 99 front bumper without a plate that looks good. You'd have to do too much tweeking to even get it close to specs. The 99 original needs a plate there to look good.
-Jeff
-Jeff
11-12-06, 10:50 PM
#44
Originally Posted by ptrhahn
How's that? There are two different plateless '99 bumpers on the market that are the '99 nose minus the brick. THE BRICK is the add-on. It doesn't need "tweaking" to look good without it, because it was OBVIOUSLY designed without it first, and the brick was added later. All you have to do is squint a little and you can see how the line would've continued without it there.
There is absolutely no continuity to the plate box shape... it doesn't even look like a part of the cars design. It's a brick.
There is absolutely no continuity to the plate box shape... it doesn't even look like a part of the cars design. It's a brick.
So wait, there's a 99 fornt bumper with no plate holder, and people are adding a plate holder to it? You're not talking about the OEM are you? I know OEM 99 doesn't have a plateless available
-Jeff
11-12-06, 10:51 PM
#45
Uh.... don't cellebrate yet...
Not ONE. NOT ONE of those cars have a brick, or even a built in provision for those liscense plates, genius. They are all just cars with a liscense plates bolted on. Here's the way they come:
DO I NEED TO KEEP GOING?!?! No LISENCE =
FD 
Not ONE. NOT ONE of those cars have a brick, or even a built in provision for those liscense plates, genius. They are all just cars with a liscense plates bolted on. Here's the way they come:
Originally Posted by fdguru
DO I NEED TO KEEP GOING?!?! No LISENCE =
FD
11-12-06, 10:53 PM
#46
The designers added it, genius. Can you not plainly see that the car has an innate shape to which the brick was added? "OEM" has nothing to do with it. It's a DESIGN issue. It would be no different if they'd added it to the 93-95. It would look tacked on.
Originally Posted by TRISPEEDFD3S
So wait, there's a 99 fornt bumper with no plate holder, and people are adding a plate holder to it? You're not talking about the OEM are you? I know OEM 99 doesn't have a plateless available
-Jeff
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11-12-06, 10:56 PM
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but to be fair, in those pictures the cars all have something to fillin the front bumber, be it grill, hood ornament or something else. on the 99 plateless, its just a large bare surface that looks empty, imo. to each their own but i think the plate fills up the emptiness nicely.
Last edited by TwilightRotary; 11-12-06 at 10:59 PM.
11-12-06, 10:59 PM
#49
You can put an emblem on a '99 plateles bumper too. The picture of my car in this thread was taken the day I picked it up. Haden't even gotten it home from the paint shop yet.
The "emptiness" isn't any bigger than it is on the 93, I assure you.
The "emptiness" isn't any bigger than it is on the 93, I assure you.
Originally Posted by TwilightRotary
but to be fair, in those pictures the cars all have something to fillin the front bumber, be it grill hood ornament or something else. on the 99 plateless, its just a large bare surface that looks empty, imo. to each there own but i think the plate fills up the emptiness nicely.
