3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Pic's of PFSupercars Diff Girdle...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-02-07, 09:27 PM
  #1  
Living life 9 seconds at a time

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
ErnieT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Abingdon, Md
Posts: 6,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pic's of PFSupercars Diff Girdle...

Hey guys. I got some pics of the gurdle. Alot of people wanted to see it. Ray is now producing them. Keep in mind that mine is the same gurdle that was on Ray's drag car as well as Peter's so it doesn't look "new", lol....Ray can have them coated now too. So far this gurdle has had NO failures with countless launches from myself, Ray and Peter.





Old 11-02-07, 11:36 PM
  #2  
NYC's Loudest FD

 
RX794's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,539
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Very well engineered piece. I remember seeing Peter, Adam and Ray all use this same part in the past with much success.

Last edited by RX794; 11-02-07 at 11:42 PM.
Old 11-03-07, 07:18 AM
  #3  
Urban Combat Vet

iTrader: (16)
 
Sgtblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Mid-west
Posts: 12,022
Received 866 Likes on 615 Posts
Clever design. What does it weigh?
Old 11-03-07, 12:29 PM
  #4  
I win

 
skir2222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,875
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Hey ernie, the diff is stock? Were the axles stock? Did they launch on radials? Just a few questions that i am sure everyone would like to see. I would even buy one then
Old 11-03-07, 12:46 PM
  #5  
Junior Member

 
overkill-lt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: vestal ny
Posts: 49
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how about some better pictures
Old 11-03-07, 01:15 PM
  #6  
needs more track time

iTrader: (16)
 
gracer7-rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bay Area CA
Posts: 9,194
Received 510 Likes on 351 Posts
looks pretty beefy

fyi - the correct spelling is girdle.
Old 11-03-07, 02:08 PM
  #7  
Living life 9 seconds at a time

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
ErnieT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Abingdon, Md
Posts: 6,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Peter and Ray used to use the stock diff. I use the Kazz. Launching on radials isn't advisable no matter what bracing/girdle you have. Ray and Peter used stock axles. I have 300m chrome molly axles.
Old 11-03-07, 02:24 PM
  #8  
Registered User

iTrader: (4)
 
justturbo2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: new york
Posts: 1,571
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hey ernie I had talked to ray about posting pics. Thanks I guess I would be ordering one soon. did ray say how much for powder coating? Also how long to be shipped? Thanks Justin
Old 11-03-07, 02:27 PM
  #9  
Living life 9 seconds at a time

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
ErnieT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Abingdon, Md
Posts: 6,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Justin,
You'd have to call and ask Ray. I don't know.
Old 11-03-07, 03:01 PM
  #10  
I win

 
skir2222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,875
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by ErnieT
Peter and Ray used to use the stock diff. I use the Kazz. Launching on radials isn't advisable no matter what bracing/girdle you have. Ray and Peter used stock axles. I have 300m chrome molly axles.
Thank you, useful information. Also, do you know of a price on this piece?
Old 11-03-07, 05:09 PM
  #11  
Registered User

iTrader: (4)
 
justturbo2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: new york
Posts: 1,571
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If alot of people are interested maybe we can call Ray and get a group buy?
Lets get something set up.
Old 11-03-07, 06:01 PM
  #12  
Living life 9 seconds at a time

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
ErnieT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Abingdon, Md
Posts: 6,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by skir2222
Thank you, useful information. Also, do you know of a price on this piece?
His price is $350, but Im sure you can call and get a group discount.
Old 11-03-07, 11:12 PM
  #13  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,529
Received 539 Likes on 326 Posts
Originally Posted by overkill-lt1
how about some better pictures
How about you say 'please'?

Ernie, it looks like it's very close to your exhaust piping. I'd be interested in running one of these, but wonder if it'll work with my 4 inch diameter piping.

Also, I know when I ran the kgparts T brace (can't now with my exhaust) the rear of the car felt much more solid and I could really tell the difference in decreased drivetrain movement. I'm assuming that's more pronounced with this big mother ?
Old 11-04-07, 08:44 AM
  #14  
Place your ad here...

 
saxyman990's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 1,336
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Interesting concept. I can see how it mounts (and cradles) the diff case, and would obviously provide for an increase in the strength of the case. Does it also mount to the frame of the car?

-Rob
Old 11-04-07, 10:00 AM
  #15  
Registered User

iTrader: (4)
 
justturbo2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: new york
Posts: 1,571
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey Rich I taked to Ray about the brace. I asked about exhaust
fitment and he said there would have to be a slight fitment issue
with a 4" exhaust. I asked because I have the greddy exhaust
from rx7.com. Ernie also runs this exhaust. Does not look like ernie
had to cut and weld anything. so nothing like a little hammer could fix.
Maybe we can get a group buy. I will call ray on Monday again.
Old 11-04-07, 01:03 PM
  #16  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (10)
 
gnx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 2,085
Received 19 Likes on 9 Posts
This looks like it simply attaches to the differential case itself around the back bolts and then the 2 studs up front by the torque arm/PPF.

Does it attach to the frame/body in any other places?
Old 11-10-07, 01:09 AM
  #17  
Rob

iTrader: (2)
 
wanklin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4,234
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
How about you say 'please'?

Ernie, it looks like it's very close to your exhaust piping. I'd be interested in running one of these, but wonder if it'll work with my 4 inch diameter piping.

Also, I know when I ran the kgparts T brace (can't now with my exhaust) the rear of the car felt much more solid and I could really tell the difference in decreased drivetrain movement. I'm assuming that's more pronounced with this big mother ?

It's definitely a nice piece, but it's not going to change the way the car feels. It simply reinforces the casing.

Mark, my understanding from corresponding with Greg is that the cradle does not mount directly to the chassis hence it is not going to resist the diff nose's attempt to climb beyond slightly reinforcing the PPF where it bolts to the diff.

Ernie, Is Ray offering a full top & bottom brace or just the bottom one shown in your pics? My understanding is that Peter used the full enclosure, but it seems that the bottom brace works well enough.

Rob
Old 11-10-07, 01:24 AM
  #18  
sleeper
iTrader: (6)
 
4CN A1R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Abbottstown, PA
Posts: 1,957
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
wat purpose does this really serve? does it simply just protect the pumkin since 7's sit so low?
Old 11-10-07, 01:40 AM
  #19  
Full Member

 
Stage7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: NorthEast/PR
Posts: 180
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Interesting
Old 11-10-07, 01:53 AM
  #20  
Rob

iTrader: (2)
 
wanklin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4,234
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 4CN A1R
wat purpose does this really serve? does it simply just protect the pumkin since 7's sit so low?
It prevents the thin cast iron diff casing from failing by reinforcing it longitudinally.
Old 11-10-07, 06:10 AM
  #21  
sleeper
iTrader: (6)
 
4CN A1R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Abbottstown, PA
Posts: 1,957
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by wanklin
It prevents the thin cast iron diff casing from failing by reinforcing it longitudinally.
i am curious as to why the differentual casing would "fail"?
Old 11-10-07, 06:54 AM
  #22  
Living life 9 seconds at a time

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
ErnieT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Abingdon, Md
Posts: 6,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 4CN A1R
i am curious as to why the differentual casing would "fail"?
You must be fairly new. The case will flex and crack when drag racing.
Old 11-10-07, 06:56 AM
  #23  
Living life 9 seconds at a time

Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
ErnieT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Abingdon, Md
Posts: 6,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There IS a full top and bottom part to the brace. I don't have both. Didn't see a need as of yet, but Ray will make it.
Old 11-10-07, 10:51 AM
  #24  
Full Member

iTrader: (1)
 
slamdawg543's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: pittsburgh, pa
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
does this help prevent/reduce wheel hop?
Old 11-10-07, 11:16 AM
  #25  
Rob

iTrader: (2)
 
wanklin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 4,234
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It only reinforces the diff casing. This won't do much for wheel hop unless you think casing flex is a major contributing factor, which it isn't.


Quick Reply: Pic's of PFSupercars Diff Girdle...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 PM.