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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Perfect Portable Premix Container

I just got my FD back on the road and its quickly apparent that I needed a good solution for carrying a couple of tanks worth of premix as I blocked off the OMP and am 100% premix dependent now.

The solution I came up with is R/C nitro fuel bottles. I had one of these years ago for an r/c truck so it came to mind.

Looks like 300cc's translates to roughly 10 oz so at 1/2 oz of premix per gallon that's good for 20 gallons.

These should seal up nice, clean up nice, seal of nicely with the stopper on the stem and the long stem should keep adding it to the tank a fairly spill free experience.

Just thought I'd share.

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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 04:39 PM
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why not just use a good used quart oil bottle? its free
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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I can barely pour a quart oil bottle into the engine without spilling it all over. Idea here is to keep things clean.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 04:52 PM
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I use a quart bottle with no funnel and I don't spill it at all
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by evo_koa
I use a quart bottle with no funnel and I don't spill it at all
Congratulations?
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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What apex seals are you running camajo? 1/2oz a gallon isn't enough imo. 1 Oz a gallon is more recommended with no omp. The rc bottle works well tho.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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I use a 16oz MMO battle with a ziplock bag lol.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:42 PM
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I used to use nitro bottles... just beware, eventually the oil permeates it, and the little metal "straw"/spout will come loose when you turn it over or squeeze and it'll make a mess.
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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I would be very interested if anyone else has any other good ideas...
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 02:36 AM
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Based on my fuel gauge, I guesstimate 1/2 oz. per (working OMP) and use the quart bottle it comes in, which is kept in the driver's side bin.
But what the OP proposes would also work, and would allow bulk purchase of 2-cycle oil, especially if he's buying the really expensive "special" stuff.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 03:44 AM
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Why not just use rotary aviation omp adapter instead of completely removing the omp and having to premix each fill up?
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 07:45 AM
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I always thought the argument was, that the oil injection nozzles didn't distribute oil overywhere that you'd ideally need it, so whether you use an engine oil OMP or a dedicated 2-stroke supply OMP, it's not the same as pre-mixed lube blown in with the fuel?
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 08:03 AM
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Why not just use rotary aviation omp adapter instead of completely removing the omp and having to premix each fill up?
Packaging mostly. You have to find a tank and a place to put it. And you absolutely can't forget to refill.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 08:34 AM
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I've done both ways. Premix in the tank and now I use the rotary aviation adapter. Forgetting to premix at a fill-up has the same effect as forgetting to fill the reservoir for the RA adapter. The difference being my reservoir will hold a little over a gallon of premix requiring a lot less fills -roughly every oil change- and a lot less guesstimating of ratios. If the engine accumulated over a hundred thousand miles on dino oil then a much better lubricating oil through the same system will have no issues.
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Using the adapter makes you have to add an aux tank which some people do not have room for. Also the nozzles only apply oil down the middle of the rotor housing where premixing does not. I also buy Redline two stroke by the gallon so I am always looking for the best container that wont make a mess!
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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I'm using Idemitsu for now. The bottle says 1/2 oz per gallon. Does that assume I am still running the omp?

Originally Posted by silverTRD
What apex seals are you running camajo? 1/2oz a gallon isn't enough imo. 1 Oz a gallon is more recommended with no omp. The rc bottle works well tho.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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Oh and apex seals are rotary aviation super seals.


Originally Posted by camajo
I'm using Idemitsu for now. The bottle says 1/2 oz per gallon. Does that assume I am still running the omp?
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 01:20 PM
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Interesting. I figured if it was rated for the nitro fuel then it would easily handle oil. Was it the screw on plastic top that became soft?

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I used to use nitro bottles... just beware, eventually the oil permeates it, and the little metal "straw"/spout will come loose when you turn it over or squeeze and it'll make a mess.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by camajo
Interesting. I figured if it was rated for the nitro fuel then it would easily handle oil. Was it the screw on plastic top that became soft?

Well that, and the blue anodized tube (pictured in the Amazon link), is just pressed in, so if it's lubricated with oil, it can start to pop out pretty easily. I found that after a while, the plastic on the top got soft enough that the threads essentially "stripped" and couldn't be tightened much.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 02:13 PM
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I use 2 Lucas fuel injector cleaner bottles. They are 5oz each, have a perfect size opening to fit past the flapper valve in the fill neck, and they are little sturdy bottles, i dont have to hold and pour either, just jam it in and wait or pay at pump. I use 10oz per fill at 1/4 tank on my truck, usually 36-40liters. If i am not empty and want to top up, i can put 1 bottle in and fill up to 20liters.
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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Congratulations?
thank you for acknowledging how perfect I am!
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazderati
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thank you for acknowledging how perfect I am!

10 points for Gryffindor!
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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24 oz Poland spring water bottle with the sport cap. Fill it to 16 oz and then chuck it after use
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Old owner gave me Pettit's Protek R, emptied them and now use Idemitsu.
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