One piece carbon fiber front end. Anyone?
#76
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Originally posted by stevecod
why is everybody complaing about it not being streetable??? I think that is so ****** stupid when people say that. Chuck has clearly stated that the kit is "off road use only"!!! if you like it GOOD, if you don't than just shut the **** up!! I gotta give chuck credit for actually doing something that no one has or will do.
I'm just waiting for the wing.
why is everybody complaing about it not being streetable??? I think that is so ****** stupid when people say that. Chuck has clearly stated that the kit is "off road use only"!!! if you like it GOOD, if you don't than just shut the **** up!! I gotta give chuck credit for actually doing something that no one has or will do.
I'm just waiting for the wing.
secondly, who says no one will ever do it??? I will be doing it (making a one peice front end) very soon (well after my engine swap)
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Originally posted by skunks
285 in the front? is that even possible? (well i guess anything is possible but can you turn all the way with out touching the sides/inside/under fenders)
285 in the front? is that even possible? (well i guess anything is possible but can you turn all the way with out touching the sides/inside/under fenders)
I even emailed Kevin Wyum that ran the same setup a few years back (10.5" wheels all the way around) with no rubbing, but he had his wheels custom fitted. He said he got no rubbing at all.
I would LOVE to Gtech my FD with 285 slicks all the way around
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for those who say cf is weak, why do they make the tub of F1 race cars out of it? They crash at over 200 mph and usually walk away.(obviously they have other strenght measures besides the cf.(roll cages etc...) most of the panels on JGTC cars are cf as well as rally. I thimk it is stronger than you give it credit for. Almost forgot all the stealth aircraft our country makes out of the stuff.. Yeah , must not be that strong!! Go for the front end dude! I'll be interested in the rear hatch soon. If i can afford the front i'd do that as well!
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You should ask this guy:
By now, the trunk has been done and some other small fixes... Don't think the rear fenders are gonna be done cause he'd have to cut the car in half to do so...
By now, the trunk has been done and some other small fixes... Don't think the rear fenders are gonna be done cause he'd have to cut the car in half to do so...
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i'm a little confused, doesn't pettit already make this...
$1250
This high quality carbon fiber front end, weighs only 24 lbs. and allows more wheel clearance (up to 11.5" wheels w/8" of backspacing). To gain the 8" of backspacing the stock springs and shocks need to be replaced with 2.5" size diameter spring and any aftermarket shock (we recommend Koni shocks and Eibach ERS springs). The fenders have more clearance to run larger wheels and both lower the car and its center of gravity. The headlights and turn signals are filled in but can be cut out to run headlights and turn signals. Leave it to your local bodyman to do the cutting. The front ends do not bolt up, there are no mounting points on the front ends. Any good fabrication shop in your area should be able to do the job.
Weighs 24 lbs.
S&H: $300
Ships Within 2 Weeks
For street when lights are cut out
$1250
This high quality carbon fiber front end, weighs only 24 lbs. and allows more wheel clearance (up to 11.5" wheels w/8" of backspacing). To gain the 8" of backspacing the stock springs and shocks need to be replaced with 2.5" size diameter spring and any aftermarket shock (we recommend Koni shocks and Eibach ERS springs). The fenders have more clearance to run larger wheels and both lower the car and its center of gravity. The headlights and turn signals are filled in but can be cut out to run headlights and turn signals. Leave it to your local bodyman to do the cutting. The front ends do not bolt up, there are no mounting points on the front ends. Any good fabrication shop in your area should be able to do the job.
Weighs 24 lbs.
S&H: $300
Ships Within 2 Weeks
For street when lights are cut out
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I think the original post states that the intended one piece would include the hood and will have hinges to open like the Viper.
As for the CF being weak or strong, and why they use the stuff on F1 cars. They use it because it light and because under inpact it will shatter and break away making rescue faster and easier. If the body was metal, not only would it be heavier, in a crash the metal would crumble and fold and even tear into sharp edges causing harm to the driver, not to mention getting into the way of trying to get the driver out. Oh, did I mention it's "LIGHT".
As for the CF being weak or strong, and why they use the stuff on F1 cars. They use it because it light and because under inpact it will shatter and break away making rescue faster and easier. If the body was metal, not only would it be heavier, in a crash the metal would crumble and fold and even tear into sharp edges causing harm to the driver, not to mention getting into the way of trying to get the driver out. Oh, did I mention it's "LIGHT".
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One thing I can't STAND about that front end is the small opening. Hopefully if Chuck decides to go through with the project we can get a nice large opening and perhaps the option of a nice big vent in the hood for VMIC setups.
BTW, I've talked to the guy that produces that piece, he has a lot of other C/F lightweight stuff too. He seems like a nice guy if not sometimes a bit cocky If you havn't seen his car you should check it out, it's nearly completely C/F and extremely light with a bonzai 20B and 4 speed clutchless racing tranny and every other goody you can ever immagine. I think he said 1st gear went to something like 70mph at like 8700rpm which is perfect for autoX where he races it (I have no idea why he doesn't road race in it). Anyways, it's absolutely the nicest and fastest FD I've ever seen. Not to mention he's only boosting something like 7psi and getting gobs and gobs of power!
Ohh yeah, his dad also owns (and races) an F360 Challenge at the SCCA events. Some people simply have everything!
BTW, I've talked to the guy that produces that piece, he has a lot of other C/F lightweight stuff too. He seems like a nice guy if not sometimes a bit cocky If you havn't seen his car you should check it out, it's nearly completely C/F and extremely light with a bonzai 20B and 4 speed clutchless racing tranny and every other goody you can ever immagine. I think he said 1st gear went to something like 70mph at like 8700rpm which is perfect for autoX where he races it (I have no idea why he doesn't road race in it). Anyways, it's absolutely the nicest and fastest FD I've ever seen. Not to mention he's only boosting something like 7psi and getting gobs and gobs of power!
Ohh yeah, his dad also owns (and races) an F360 Challenge at the SCCA events. Some people simply have everything!
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Originally posted by 93BlackFD
i'm a little confused, doesn't pettit already make this...
$1250
This high quality carbon fiber front end, weighs only 24 lbs. and allows more wheel clearance (up to 11.5" wheels w/8" of backspacing). To gain the 8" of backspacing the stock springs and shocks need to be replaced with 2.5" size diameter spring and any aftermarket shock (we recommend Koni shocks and Eibach ERS springs). The fenders have more clearance to run larger wheels and both lower the car and its center of gravity. The headlights and turn signals are filled in but can be cut out to run headlights and turn signals. Leave it to your local bodyman to do the cutting. The front ends do not bolt up, there are no mounting points on the front ends. Any good fabrication shop in your area should be able to do the job.
Weighs 24 lbs.
S&H: $300
Ships Within 2 Weeks
For street when lights are cut out
i'm a little confused, doesn't pettit already make this...
$1250
This high quality carbon fiber front end, weighs only 24 lbs. and allows more wheel clearance (up to 11.5" wheels w/8" of backspacing). To gain the 8" of backspacing the stock springs and shocks need to be replaced with 2.5" size diameter spring and any aftermarket shock (we recommend Koni shocks and Eibach ERS springs). The fenders have more clearance to run larger wheels and both lower the car and its center of gravity. The headlights and turn signals are filled in but can be cut out to run headlights and turn signals. Leave it to your local bodyman to do the cutting. The front ends do not bolt up, there are no mounting points on the front ends. Any good fabrication shop in your area should be able to do the job.
Weighs 24 lbs.
S&H: $300
Ships Within 2 Weeks
For street when lights are cut out
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if chuck gives a price out.take it.he might actually even overbid.then he will pull the price down if it is actually less.chuck has been doing this for awhile and im sure his bids are good and have been right so far.its just a new jackass getting on here and saying it for a 100 bucks.
plus why wouldnt it be street legal?the dodge viper rolls around with a one piece front end.saleen s7 the same.
and chuck is right.u guys want fiberglass front fenders or hoods.but a one piece comes out and it is dangerous if it crashes.you guys are jackasses.to let you all know,even if you have a stock fd and you crash you will have to worry more about than some pulleys or belts.you will have to worry about walking out alive.
plus why wouldnt it be street legal?the dodge viper rolls around with a one piece front end.saleen s7 the same.
and chuck is right.u guys want fiberglass front fenders or hoods.but a one piece comes out and it is dangerous if it crashes.you guys are jackasses.to let you all know,even if you have a stock fd and you crash you will have to worry more about than some pulleys or belts.you will have to worry about walking out alive.
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Originally posted by twint78
if chuck gives a price out.take it.he might actually even overbid.then he will pull the price down if it is actually less.chuck has been doing this for awhile and im sure his bids are good and have been right so far.its just a new jackass getting on here and saying it for a 100 bucks.
plus why wouldnt it be street legal?the dodge viper rolls around with a one piece front end.saleen s7 the same.
and chuck is right.u guys want fiberglass front fenders or hoods.but a one piece comes out and it is dangerous if it crashes.you guys are jackasses.to let you all know,even if you have a stock fd and you crash you will have to worry more about than some pulleys or belts.you will have to worry about walking out alive.
if chuck gives a price out.take it.he might actually even overbid.then he will pull the price down if it is actually less.chuck has been doing this for awhile and im sure his bids are good and have been right so far.its just a new jackass getting on here and saying it for a 100 bucks.
plus why wouldnt it be street legal?the dodge viper rolls around with a one piece front end.saleen s7 the same.
and chuck is right.u guys want fiberglass front fenders or hoods.but a one piece comes out and it is dangerous if it crashes.you guys are jackasses.to let you all know,even if you have a stock fd and you crash you will have to worry more about than some pulleys or belts.you will have to worry about walking out alive.
It is not legal for the RX-7 because that is not how the OEMs offered it.
Thanks for calling us "jackasses". Have a great day.
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I remember reading that new Vipers don't have a one-piece front end anymore due to high repair cost for insurance comapanies.
As for Chuck's attitude in this thread, even if you have a past beef with these people you make yourself look bad with your replies. Many of these things could have been said in PM's. Folks say you're great at customer satisfaction but I'd hate to have to settle a problem with you after seeing this behavior. (Chuck, this is not meant as an attack but merely a wake-up call to not let your emotions get in the way of public relations.)
As for the arrogance about Chucks abilities. This is what got me to reply here. It becomes infinitely easier to have parts made when people put their money up front seeing as you have very low investment thus low risk.
I have great respect for true craftsmen but Chuck is taking himself a little to seriously for what he does.
Original vs. replica: Interesting that the imperfections in the original are merley copied into the replica. For being such a master craftsman who can make anything, I'd think Chuck would want to fix the blemishes in his body pieces so that they would be better than the original but that would be thinking like a craftsman and not a businessman.
Jack
As for Chuck's attitude in this thread, even if you have a past beef with these people you make yourself look bad with your replies. Many of these things could have been said in PM's. Folks say you're great at customer satisfaction but I'd hate to have to settle a problem with you after seeing this behavior. (Chuck, this is not meant as an attack but merely a wake-up call to not let your emotions get in the way of public relations.)
As for the arrogance about Chucks abilities. This is what got me to reply here. It becomes infinitely easier to have parts made when people put their money up front seeing as you have very low investment thus low risk.
I have great respect for true craftsmen but Chuck is taking himself a little to seriously for what he does.
Original vs. replica: Interesting that the imperfections in the original are merley copied into the replica. For being such a master craftsman who can make anything, I'd think Chuck would want to fix the blemishes in his body pieces so that they would be better than the original but that would be thinking like a craftsman and not a businessman.
Jack
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THANKS FOR THE INFO FEDUP!
Actually, you can't really compare because that piece is much smaller and doesn't include a hood. Hoods can be expensive...
And that's not Pettits work, it's Jeff's I beleive.
Actually, you can't really compare because that piece is much smaller and doesn't include a hood. Hoods can be expensive...
And that's not Pettits work, it's Jeff's I beleive.
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Originally posted by DRAG0NEER
is rotaryextreme still in business???
is rotaryextreme still in business???
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if you have holes for the lights and the turn signals it should be legal right?
plus i think its a great idea, it might also be cheaper to buy your full front end than to buy a vented hood+nice bumper+fenders.
plus i think its a great idea, it might also be cheaper to buy your full front end than to buy a vented hood+nice bumper+fenders.
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I already explained in my reply in the black99's post. It has nothing to do with arrogance.
DK is not even a customer. He has some grudge against me for no reason.
I don't know if you have a business yourself. If there is someone that goes to your place of business practice and constantly making trouble, how would you handle that? We are not talking about customer satisfaction here. He is not my customer and not even a potential one.
Thank you for your comment on my thinking of a craftsman but I am not. I have a Chemistry degree from UC Berkeley and 2nd year in MBA at this time. I have a lot of "craftsmen" working for me though.
As for the wake up call, maybe you could have given me the wake up call in PM as well as you have stated yourself of what I should have done.
Chuck Huang
DK is not even a customer. He has some grudge against me for no reason.
I don't know if you have a business yourself. If there is someone that goes to your place of business practice and constantly making trouble, how would you handle that? We are not talking about customer satisfaction here. He is not my customer and not even a potential one.
Thank you for your comment on my thinking of a craftsman but I am not. I have a Chemistry degree from UC Berkeley and 2nd year in MBA at this time. I have a lot of "craftsmen" working for me though.
As for the wake up call, maybe you could have given me the wake up call in PM as well as you have stated yourself of what I should have done.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by Trout2
I remember reading that new Vipers don't have a one-piece front end anymore due to high repair cost for insurance comapanies.
As for Chuck's attitude in this thread, even if you have a past beef with these people you make yourself look bad with your replies. Many of these things could have been said in PM's. Folks say you're great at customer satisfaction but I'd hate to have to settle a problem with you after seeing this behavior. (Chuck, this is not meant as an attack but merely a wake-up call to not let your emotions get in the way of public relations.)
As for the arrogance about Chucks abilities. This is what got me to reply here. It becomes infinitely easier to have parts made when people put their money up front seeing as you have very low investment thus low risk.
I have great respect for true craftsmen but Chuck is taking himself a little to seriously for what he does.
Original vs. replica: Interesting that the imperfections in the original are merley copied into the replica. For being such a master craftsman who can make anything, I'd think Chuck would want to fix the blemishes in his body pieces so that they would be better than the original but that would be thinking like a craftsman and not a businessman.
Jack
I remember reading that new Vipers don't have a one-piece front end anymore due to high repair cost for insurance comapanies.
As for Chuck's attitude in this thread, even if you have a past beef with these people you make yourself look bad with your replies. Many of these things could have been said in PM's. Folks say you're great at customer satisfaction but I'd hate to have to settle a problem with you after seeing this behavior. (Chuck, this is not meant as an attack but merely a wake-up call to not let your emotions get in the way of public relations.)
As for the arrogance about Chucks abilities. This is what got me to reply here. It becomes infinitely easier to have parts made when people put their money up front seeing as you have very low investment thus low risk.
I have great respect for true craftsmen but Chuck is taking himself a little to seriously for what he does.
Original vs. replica: Interesting that the imperfections in the original are merley copied into the replica. For being such a master craftsman who can make anything, I'd think Chuck would want to fix the blemishes in his body pieces so that they would be better than the original but that would be thinking like a craftsman and not a businessman.
Jack
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As for as for those people who are looking for fender flares that add about one inch in width, you can purchase the Panspeed one. Front pair is $300 and rear pair is $380. You can also get the RE Amemiya AD GT kit which comes with front fender replacement, sideskirts, and rear quarter panel add on. Or you can purchase my widebodykit that adds 2" and it comes with front bumper, front fenders, sideskirts, rear 1/4" add on, and rear bumper. The price for the whole kit is $4500.
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OK Chuck, forget the CF front end...you should make a version of the Apex'i front clip to use the 99 lights, as I also state in this ancient thread that I just found:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...19#post1868619
C'mon, this would be way cooler :-)
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https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...19#post1868619
C'mon, this would be way cooler :-)
jds