One piece carbon fiber front end. Anyone?
09-01-02, 12:24 AM
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why is everybody complaing about it not being streetable??? I think that is so ****** stupid when people say that. Chuck has clearly stated that the kit is "off road use only"!!! if you like it GOOD, if you don't than just shut the **** up!!
I gotta give chuck credit for actually doing something that no one has or will do.
I'm just waiting for the wing.
I gotta give chuck credit for actually doing something that no one has or will do. I'm just waiting for the wing.
09-03-02, 02:46 AM
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6. Let's do a reality check. Indeed there are bad vendors and good vendors. On the contrary, thre are bad customers and good customers. You are not even my customer so I don't even know where to classify you. You have no right to question my business tactics as far as I see, I am very successful. If I am losing business, can I afford to release a new product every month? And don't forget I am making my bodykit to fit right and I back up my products, unlike your selling cheap, not fitting properly bodykits to customers to make a few bucks. If you want to talk about moral standard or business tactics, I think I am better at it than you are. At least I don't hear customers bitching at me about the quality of my stuff. Have those Honda customers of yours bitch at you about their bodykit not fitting properly? Did you give them the refund or you just keep the money and say screw you?
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09-03-02, 04:02 AM
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here is a link to some picture of my friend's wing he got from rotary extreme.
http://homepage.mac.com/onboost/PhotoAlbum1.html
http://homepage.mac.com/onboost/PhotoAlbum1.html
09-03-02, 04:59 AM
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Chuck, being such a big fan of your HMIC/V-mount system, I'd hope that you'd design the nose and hood section somewhat around that system as to get the best performance out of it 
Function before style please, and that includes downforce
Function before style please, and that includes downforce
09-03-02, 10:25 AM
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BlackR1: In regards to the yellow SCCA 240sx, you're referring to Tom Neely w/ Neely Motorsports. His website (www.raceneely.com) was no longer available the last time I checked. I think he is concentrating on his racing.
Rotaryextreme: I do acknowledge the fact that you do try to introduce products to the RX-7 community. The ONLY thing I did in this post was notify a potential buyer the results of what may happen in an accident. That was something that I didn't see you do. As we all know, whether people decide to use the product on the street, that is entirely up to them. You stated your legal disclaimer (on your website), thereby releasing you of certain liabilities. Your examples of cars w/ carbon fiber front ends are all cars that are race only. They have the tube frame chassis designed to support impacts at high speeds. Regular passenger cars do not have this type of "protective bracing" and IF a car equipped w/ your carbon fiber front end were to be in a crash, you will see much more damage than if you had the stock body panels. We, both, know this to be fact. I just wanted to state this to anyone who thought about using this product on the street.
BTW, you're right that carbon fiber can be easy to work with (as long as you don't care about the weave pattern). You can use carbon fiber in a mat, as opposed to the weave, BUT it will not be stronger (at least in my opinion). And yes, I have worked w/ composites.
Rotaryextreme: I do acknowledge the fact that you do try to introduce products to the RX-7 community. The ONLY thing I did in this post was notify a potential buyer the results of what may happen in an accident. That was something that I didn't see you do. As we all know, whether people decide to use the product on the street, that is entirely up to them. You stated your legal disclaimer (on your website), thereby releasing you of certain liabilities. Your examples of cars w/ carbon fiber front ends are all cars that are race only. They have the tube frame chassis designed to support impacts at high speeds. Regular passenger cars do not have this type of "protective bracing" and IF a car equipped w/ your carbon fiber front end were to be in a crash, you will see much more damage than if you had the stock body panels. We, both, know this to be fact. I just wanted to state this to anyone who thought about using this product on the street.
BTW, you're right that carbon fiber can be easy to work with (as long as you don't care about the weave pattern). You can use carbon fiber in a mat, as opposed to the weave, BUT it will not be stronger (at least in my opinion). And yes, I have worked w/ composites.
09-03-02, 10:32 PM
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No one ever complained but you. I have sold at least 40 FEED replica front ends and it fits exactly like the original one. I still have the original one and if you don't believe, why don't you buy it from me and see it yourself? Your friend Victor got the replica one from someone else who bought it from me and Victor said it fits all perfectly and actually he thought of it as the original one. Go do a search and see the thread yourself. About the 15th wing, it's just primer on it. Your bodyshop is supposed to wetsand the primer before painting. When I gave to Dave, it's not cracked. It's not like I mailed it to your friend. When Dave gave it to him, how come he was not complaining but now?
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Originally posted by stockrx7
Since when did your bodykits ever fit properly? None of the ones i've seen that have come from rotaryextreme ever fit properly or are high quality as a matter of fact. My friend who is convinced that the replica's are every bit as good as the real thing (god forbid him) got a mazdaspeed 15th anniversary wing, it looks like ****. the grooves on the spoiler part that connect the wing are not smooth. also the surface of the wing is uneven as well. This is just one of the many kits i've seen from you. The FEED front end? Give me a break, the gaps and lines don't match and the fender needs to be bent in in order to fit. Let's get a reality check here too, people get what they pay for, anyone who has the resources or money can copy things that have already been engineered. If DK wanted to, he could make things happen too, it's not that hard.
Since when did your bodykits ever fit properly? None of the ones i've seen that have come from rotaryextreme ever fit properly or are high quality as a matter of fact. My friend who is convinced that the replica's are every bit as good as the real thing (god forbid him) got a mazdaspeed 15th anniversary wing, it looks like ****. the grooves on the spoiler part that connect the wing are not smooth. also the surface of the wing is uneven as well. This is just one of the many kits i've seen from you. The FEED front end? Give me a break, the gaps and lines don't match and the fender needs to be bent in in order to fit. Let's get a reality check here too, people get what they pay for, anyone who has the resources or money can copy things that have already been engineered. If DK wanted to, he could make things happen too, it's not that hard.
09-03-02, 10:42 PM
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Thank your for your concern about its street use but I already said it many times that it's not meant for the street. Not all cars I mention has tube chassis. For example, the Panspeed car, it's stock body, no tubes at all. Didn't you see the picture? Carbon fiber composite product can be made 10 times stronger than steel body and I already mentioned that. If you pay 20k, I can give you the Indy car bodypanel quality product. No, I am not doing it myself. I have a speical connection that makes Indy car panels and they can do this kind of stuff. Sometimes you have to leave things to the pros.
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
BlackR1: In regards to the yellow SCCA 240sx, you're referring to Tom Neely w/ Neely Motorsports. His website (www.raceneely.com) was no longer available the last time I checked. I think he is concentrating on his racing.
Rotaryextreme: I do acknowledge the fact that you do try to introduce products to the RX-7 community. The ONLY thing I did in this post was notify a potential buyer the results of what may happen in an accident. That was something that I didn't see you do. As we all know, whether people decide to use the product on the street, that is entirely up to them. You stated your legal disclaimer (on your website), thereby releasing you of certain liabilities. Your examples of cars w/ carbon fiber front ends are all cars that are race only. They have the tube frame chassis designed to support impacts at high speeds. Regular passenger cars do not have this type of "protective bracing" and IF a car equipped w/ your carbon fiber front end were to be in a crash, you will see much more damage than if you had the stock body panels. We, both, know this to be fact. I just wanted to state this to anyone who thought about using this product on the street.
BTW, you're right that carbon fiber can be easy to work with (as long as you don't care about the weave pattern). You can use carbon fiber in a mat, as opposed to the weave, BUT it will not be stronger (at least in my opinion). And yes, I have worked w/ composites.
BlackR1: In regards to the yellow SCCA 240sx, you're referring to Tom Neely w/ Neely Motorsports. His website (www.raceneely.com) was no longer available the last time I checked. I think he is concentrating on his racing.
Rotaryextreme: I do acknowledge the fact that you do try to introduce products to the RX-7 community. The ONLY thing I did in this post was notify a potential buyer the results of what may happen in an accident. That was something that I didn't see you do. As we all know, whether people decide to use the product on the street, that is entirely up to them. You stated your legal disclaimer (on your website), thereby releasing you of certain liabilities. Your examples of cars w/ carbon fiber front ends are all cars that are race only. They have the tube frame chassis designed to support impacts at high speeds. Regular passenger cars do not have this type of "protective bracing" and IF a car equipped w/ your carbon fiber front end were to be in a crash, you will see much more damage than if you had the stock body panels. We, both, know this to be fact. I just wanted to state this to anyone who thought about using this product on the street.
BTW, you're right that carbon fiber can be easy to work with (as long as you don't care about the weave pattern). You can use carbon fiber in a mat, as opposed to the weave, BUT it will not be stronger (at least in my opinion). And yes, I have worked w/ composites.
09-03-02, 10:45 PM
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Actually I will leave that to the buyers to decide on choice of hood, front bumper, and fenders.
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Originally posted by Chronos
Chuck, being such a big fan of your HMIC/V-mount system, I'd hope that you'd design the nose and hood section somewhat around that system as to get the best performance out of it
Function before style please, and that includes downforce
Chuck, being such a big fan of your HMIC/V-mount system, I'd hope that you'd design the nose and hood section somewhat around that system as to get the best performance out of it
Function before style please, and that includes downforce
09-04-02, 02:00 AM
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Chuck, your FEED front end DOES NOT FIT LIKE THE ORIGINAL! Victor had your replica and put it on his car, that was the one that I was referring to. The driver side fender actually had to be bent in a little to fit the front end and the surface of the fiberglass was not smooth at all. Since then he has sold it and got a real one.
The wing is actually fitted on a car right now and even after paint it doesn't look nice either. If you don't believe me, I would be happy to post more pictures if you would like.
The wing is actually fitted on a car right now and even after paint it doesn't look nice either. If you don't believe me, I would be happy to post more pictures if you would like.
09-04-02, 02:13 AM
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I am so tired of this replica vs origial bull ****. This thread is not about replica anyways. If you want to bring it on, I have everything to back myself up. First of all, 99% of you that bitches about replica does not have one original bodykit on your car or ever saw one in person. So how do you compare the two? By your stereotype or imagination?
Stockrx7, do you have the orignal FEED bumper on your car or saw one that's unpainted or installed by a bodyshop to compare with my replica? I know you don't so let me help you out on this. Here are the pictures of the original FEED bumper that I test fitted on my car before I made the replica:
My replica fits exactly like the original. Do you dare to tell me it does not fit the same? The original fits very nicely but you do have to pull the sides of the bumepr out a little to make the holes line up but fiberglass is flexible so it's not a problem. As you can see, the top holes on the bumper does not line up with the stock one. One side of the bumper does not line up with the fender perfectly but one side is. This is what I consider a good quality bumper already because I have seen many original Japanese bumpers that do not fit as nicely as this. The bottom line is, if you think I am bull shitting you, I am more than glad to sell you the orignal for $1000 which is a super deal if you ask me. But everytime I make this offer, all of you who hate replica or doubt the quality of it just shut up and that's why I still have the original one sitting there doing nothing. Anyone who hates replica is brave enough to buy the original off my hand to prove me wrong? Stockrx7?? Come on!!
Chuck Huang
Stockrx7, do you have the orignal FEED bumper on your car or saw one that's unpainted or installed by a bodyshop to compare with my replica? I know you don't so let me help you out on this. Here are the pictures of the original FEED bumper that I test fitted on my car before I made the replica:
My replica fits exactly like the original. Do you dare to tell me it does not fit the same? The original fits very nicely but you do have to pull the sides of the bumepr out a little to make the holes line up but fiberglass is flexible so it's not a problem. As you can see, the top holes on the bumper does not line up with the stock one. One side of the bumper does not line up with the fender perfectly but one side is. This is what I consider a good quality bumper already because I have seen many original Japanese bumpers that do not fit as nicely as this. The bottom line is, if you think I am bull shitting you, I am more than glad to sell you the orignal for $1000 which is a super deal if you ask me. But everytime I make this offer, all of you who hate replica or doubt the quality of it just shut up and that's why I still have the original one sitting there doing nothing. Anyone who hates replica is brave enough to buy the original off my hand to prove me wrong? Stockrx7?? Come on!!
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by stockrx7
Since when did your bodykits ever fit properly? None of the ones i've seen that have come from rotaryextreme ever fit properly or are high quality as a matter of fact. My friend who is convinced that the replica's are every bit as good as the real thing (god forbid him) got a mazdaspeed 15th anniversary wing, it looks like ****. the grooves on the spoiler part that connect the wing are not smooth. also the surface of the wing is uneven as well. This is just one of the many kits i've seen from you. The FEED front end? Give me a break, the gaps and lines don't match and the fender needs to be bent in in order to fit. Let's get a reality check here too, people get what they pay for, anyone who has the resources or money can copy things that have already been engineered. If DK wanted to, he could make things happen too, it's not that hard.
Since when did your bodykits ever fit properly? None of the ones i've seen that have come from rotaryextreme ever fit properly or are high quality as a matter of fact. My friend who is convinced that the replica's are every bit as good as the real thing (god forbid him) got a mazdaspeed 15th anniversary wing, it looks like ****. the grooves on the spoiler part that connect the wing are not smooth. also the surface of the wing is uneven as well. This is just one of the many kits i've seen from you. The FEED front end? Give me a break, the gaps and lines don't match and the fender needs to be bent in in order to fit. Let's get a reality check here too, people get what they pay for, anyone who has the resources or money can copy things that have already been engineered. If DK wanted to, he could make things happen too, it's not that hard.
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09-04-02, 02:36 AM
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Actually I want to know who you are. I sold both the replica bumepr and wing to Dave and somehow they got into your friend's hand and Victor's.
When Victor first got the replica, somehow he thought of it as the original and was bashing my replica. On that thread, he said his original bumper fits perfectly but he was actually referring to my replica bumper because the guy who sold it to him was selling it as the orignal. After I posted on the thread to let him know that what he got is a replica, he said he will buy the original if he has to. I told him $1250 for the orignal and he never contacted me. So where was he getting the original from? About my conversation with Victor,we did it by PM so I still have them on record. I can post a picture of the screen if you want me to or you think I am bull shitting you.
About the bumper not being smooth, sometimes there is overspray of the primer on the bumper but it's not really a big deal. Your bodyshop has to pimer the bumper and wetsand before they paint the bumper anyways. Roughness and waviness are two different things. I have made another post on on of the replica vs orignal thread long time ago. Do some search and you can learn all about it.
I back up my product. If you have any problem with them, I will be more than happy to work with you. But whoever you are never contacted me and I don't even know who you are. Don't you think this is wrong? It's not like you asked me for help and I just told you to **** off. I was never informed about any of this and suddenly you just want to come here bashing me?
I am not saying I don't make mistake. If I do, I correct them. If some how the wing is really defective, you should contact me first before anything. Now you already had it painted and I don't even know if you bodyshop really knows how to paint. How about this. If I can take the same wing your friend has on the car and had it looked perfect, will you be willing to pay for the paint job?
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When Victor first got the replica, somehow he thought of it as the original and was bashing my replica. On that thread, he said his original bumper fits perfectly but he was actually referring to my replica bumper because the guy who sold it to him was selling it as the orignal. After I posted on the thread to let him know that what he got is a replica, he said he will buy the original if he has to. I told him $1250 for the orignal and he never contacted me. So where was he getting the original from? About my conversation with Victor,we did it by PM so I still have them on record. I can post a picture of the screen if you want me to or you think I am bull shitting you.
About the bumper not being smooth, sometimes there is overspray of the primer on the bumper but it's not really a big deal. Your bodyshop has to pimer the bumper and wetsand before they paint the bumper anyways. Roughness and waviness are two different things. I have made another post on on of the replica vs orignal thread long time ago. Do some search and you can learn all about it.
I back up my product. If you have any problem with them, I will be more than happy to work with you. But whoever you are never contacted me and I don't even know who you are. Don't you think this is wrong? It's not like you asked me for help and I just told you to **** off. I was never informed about any of this and suddenly you just want to come here bashing me?
I am not saying I don't make mistake. If I do, I correct them. If some how the wing is really defective, you should contact me first before anything. Now you already had it painted and I don't even know if you bodyshop really knows how to paint. How about this. If I can take the same wing your friend has on the car and had it looked perfect, will you be willing to pay for the paint job?
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by stockrx7
Chuck, your FEED front end DOES NOT FIT LIKE THE ORIGINAL! Victor had your replica and put it on his car, that was the one that I was referring to. The driver side fender actually had to be bent in a little to fit the front end and the surface of the fiberglass was not smooth at all. Since then he has sold it and got a real one.
The wing is actually fitted on a car right now and even after paint it doesn't look nice either. If you don't believe me, I would be happy to post more pictures if you would like.
Chuck, your FEED front end DOES NOT FIT LIKE THE ORIGINAL! Victor had your replica and put it on his car, that was the one that I was referring to. The driver side fender actually had to be bent in a little to fit the front end and the surface of the fiberglass was not smooth at all. Since then he has sold it and got a real one.
The wing is actually fitted on a car right now and even after paint it doesn't look nice either. If you don't believe me, I would be happy to post more pictures if you would like.
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I know that aftermarket body parts aren't held up to the same standard as oem parts, I totally believe Chuck about the replica's being pretty close to the orig. Though i haven't purchased anything from Chuck, I do believe he makes quality products. There has been nothing but praise about his orig. sleek headlights.
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09-05-02, 01:53 AM
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chuck, is there a specific bodyshop that you recommend in the Bay Area to have your parts fitted on then?
I don't know if this is true for all the other RE replica's, but the FEED one I had had a wavy ripple like surface on the front end, and the fender had to be bent inward a little to make it fit.
If you could find me a bodyshop to make it fit perfectly and make the surface look nice then I would glady pay for it and keep it instead of get a new real one
I don't know if this is true for all the other RE replica's, but the FEED one I had had a wavy ripple like surface on the front end, and the fender had to be bent inward a little to make it fit.
If you could find me a bodyshop to make it fit perfectly and make the surface look nice then I would glady pay for it and keep it instead of get a new real one
09-05-02, 03:32 AM
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Victor:
I have a few questions for you.
1. Do you have the replica now? Is it sold as Stockrx7 said? Have you bought the original one?
2. When you first got it, it was sold to you as the original by an unauthorized vendor who I don't know. I sold it to Dave and somehow it got into your hand. You said it fitted nicely and the finish is perfect. Was the wavy ripple there when you first got it? If the wavy ripple was there from the very beginning, why did you say it fits perfectly and the finish is nice as stated by you in the following thread.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...5&pagenumber=2
3. I already posted pictures of the fitment of the original bumper on this thread. Does yours fit the same way?
I can do the following for you:
1. I will recommend you to a bodyshop that does nice work. The same shop that painted my friend's silver T51R kai RX-7. He is going to be at Seven Stock as well at my booth so you can check out the paint job yourself. The shop is in downtown SF.
2. I can exchange the bumper if you really want the original one even though you didin't buy it directly from me and actually I don't even know who sold it to you. I sold it to Dave for $500 and I am willing to take your replica bumper back. You just pay me $500+ shipping and the original bumper is yours. We can do the exchange at my friend's shop at C2 Automotive. I will fit the original one on the car and also fit the replica one on the car in front of you so you can compare fitment of the two. The fitment of the original will be the same as shown in the photos posted on this thread. The bolts were not there and when you bolt them on, everything will line up. The replica is the same way.
Let me know what you want to do. I am here to help you. Another thing is that if you want to purchase something, please go through an authorized dealer. If you have purchased from me, it would be alot easier for me to take care of you. When the product goes several hands down the road, I have no idea what kind of deal is going on among you people.
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I have a few questions for you.
1. Do you have the replica now? Is it sold as Stockrx7 said? Have you bought the original one?
2. When you first got it, it was sold to you as the original by an unauthorized vendor who I don't know. I sold it to Dave and somehow it got into your hand. You said it fitted nicely and the finish is perfect. Was the wavy ripple there when you first got it? If the wavy ripple was there from the very beginning, why did you say it fits perfectly and the finish is nice as stated by you in the following thread.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...5&pagenumber=2
3. I already posted pictures of the fitment of the original bumper on this thread. Does yours fit the same way?
I can do the following for you:
1. I will recommend you to a bodyshop that does nice work. The same shop that painted my friend's silver T51R kai RX-7. He is going to be at Seven Stock as well at my booth so you can check out the paint job yourself. The shop is in downtown SF.
2. I can exchange the bumper if you really want the original one even though you didin't buy it directly from me and actually I don't even know who sold it to you. I sold it to Dave for $500 and I am willing to take your replica bumper back. You just pay me $500+ shipping and the original bumper is yours. We can do the exchange at my friend's shop at C2 Automotive. I will fit the original one on the car and also fit the replica one on the car in front of you so you can compare fitment of the two. The fitment of the original will be the same as shown in the photos posted on this thread. The bolts were not there and when you bolt them on, everything will line up. The replica is the same way.
Let me know what you want to do. I am here to help you. Another thing is that if you want to purchase something, please go through an authorized dealer. If you have purchased from me, it would be alot easier for me to take care of you. When the product goes several hands down the road, I have no idea what kind of deal is going on among you people.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by 1FooknTiteFD
chuck, is there a specific bodyshop that you recommend in the Bay Area to have your parts fitted on then?
I don't know if this is true for all the other RE replica's, but the FEED one I had had a wavy ripple like surface on the front end, and the fender had to be bent inward a little to make it fit.
If you could find me a bodyshop to make it fit perfectly and make the surface look nice then I would glady pay for it and keep it instead of get a new real one
chuck, is there a specific bodyshop that you recommend in the Bay Area to have your parts fitted on then?
I don't know if this is true for all the other RE replica's, but the FEED one I had had a wavy ripple like surface on the front end, and the fender had to be bent inward a little to make it fit.
If you could find me a bodyshop to make it fit perfectly and make the surface look nice then I would glady pay for it and keep it instead of get a new real one
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09-05-02, 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
2. When you first got it, it was sold to you as the original by an unauthorized vendor who I don't know. I sold it to Dave and somehow it got into your hand. You said it fitted nicely and the finish is perfect. Was the wavy ripple there when you first got it? If the wavy ripple was there from the very beginning, why did you say it fits perfectly and the finish is nice as stated by you in the following thread.
2. When you first got it, it was sold to you as the original by an unauthorized vendor who I don't know. I sold it to Dave and somehow it got into your hand. You said it fitted nicely and the finish is perfect. Was the wavy ripple there when you first got it? If the wavy ripple was there from the very beginning, why did you say it fits perfectly and the finish is nice as stated by you in the following thread.
haha... i don't like replicas and i don't have a single rotaryextreme product but this original vs. replica thing is getting old.i have a real knight sports hood and it fits pretty damn good and surface is perfectly smooth with no waves but i just put my stock hood back on temporarily and nothing beats oem as far as fitment... fiberglass isn't aluminum or polyeurathane, u can't expect it to fit like it. i've seen a rotaryextreme replica knight sports cf hood and to be honest, it looks really good also but it didn't come w/ the fasteners for the rain plates, etc... but remember you're buying a replica, not the real thing. if you're **** like me, just buy the damn original and you won't have anything to complain about.
as far as rotaryextreme as a vendor... what the hell else do you people want? as far as i've seen on the forum here at least, rotaryextreme always stands behind his products. i'm not conding replicas as i don't like them myself, but you guys need to get over this replica thing... this topic comes up like every other month. ok... it kinda sucks for people w/ original parts that now see a bunch of other cars w/ replicas but hey, business is business and lot of guys that would otherwise never have had a chance to buy stuff like feed "style" bumpers now have them and are probalby really happy with them.
09-05-02, 05:04 AM
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Thank you for your open-minded and neutral comments.
I just have one thing to disagree with you. Sometimes people don't complain about original not because it really has nothing to be complained about but it's like they already spent big bucks and if they complain, they will be like a loser.
For example. on your Original Knight Sports hood, the mesh is glued on with some nasty looking hot glue, right? Maybe Knight Sports should put the mesh in between the top and bottom layers before they glue the top and bottom layer together. It's a pain in the *** to do that. But that will be something you can complain about, right?? =P
Don't take this the wrong way. Knight Sports products for the FD are very nice. I have purchased the FD hood, dual flap wing, and the 4 light bumper and those are very nice, same quality as the FEED products. I am just kind of disappointed at their FC prodcuts though. It's cheaper so the quality is not as nice as the FD product. My point is that nothing is perfect that my product isn't the greatest in this world either but at least I can say you get your money worth.
Thank you again for your comments. See you at Seven Stock if you are going to be there.
Chuck Huang
I just have one thing to disagree with you. Sometimes people don't complain about original not because it really has nothing to be complained about but it's like they already spent big bucks and if they complain, they will be like a loser.
For example. on your Original Knight Sports hood, the mesh is glued on with some nasty looking hot glue, right? Maybe Knight Sports should put the mesh in between the top and bottom layers before they glue the top and bottom layer together. It's a pain in the *** to do that. But that will be something you can complain about, right?? =P
Don't take this the wrong way. Knight Sports products for the FD are very nice. I have purchased the FD hood, dual flap wing, and the 4 light bumper and those are very nice, same quality as the FEED products. I am just kind of disappointed at their FC prodcuts though. It's cheaper so the quality is not as nice as the FD product. My point is that nothing is perfect that my product isn't the greatest in this world either but at least I can say you get your money worth.
Thank you again for your comments. See you at Seven Stock if you are going to be there.
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by potatobbq
those wavy ripples show up the instant you know you don't have the original. haha... i don't like replicas and i don't have a single rotaryextreme product but this original vs. replica thing is getting old.
i have a real knight sports hood and it fits pretty damn good and surface is perfectly smooth with no waves but i just put my stock hood back on temporarily and nothing beats oem as far as fitment... fiberglass isn't aluminum or polyeurathane, u can't expect it to fit like it. i've seen a rotaryextreme replica knight sports cf hood and to be honest, it looks really good also but it didn't come w/ the fasteners for the rain plates, etc... but remember you're buying a replica, not the real thing. if you're **** like me, just buy the damn original and you won't have anything to complain about.
as far as rotaryextreme as a vendor... what the hell else do you people want? as far as i've seen on the forum here at least, rotaryextreme always stands behind his products. i'm not conding replicas as i don't like them myself, but you guys need to get over this replica thing... this topic comes up like every other month. ok... it kinda sucks for people w/ original parts that now see a bunch of other cars w/ replicas but hey, business is business and lot of guys that would otherwise never have had a chance to buy stuff like feed "style" bumpers now have them and are probalby really happy with them.
those wavy ripples show up the instant you know you don't have the original.
haha... i don't like replicas and i don't have a single rotaryextreme product but this original vs. replica thing is getting old.i have a real knight sports hood and it fits pretty damn good and surface is perfectly smooth with no waves but i just put my stock hood back on temporarily and nothing beats oem as far as fitment... fiberglass isn't aluminum or polyeurathane, u can't expect it to fit like it. i've seen a rotaryextreme replica knight sports cf hood and to be honest, it looks really good also but it didn't come w/ the fasteners for the rain plates, etc... but remember you're buying a replica, not the real thing. if you're **** like me, just buy the damn original and you won't have anything to complain about.
as far as rotaryextreme as a vendor... what the hell else do you people want? as far as i've seen on the forum here at least, rotaryextreme always stands behind his products. i'm not conding replicas as i don't like them myself, but you guys need to get over this replica thing... this topic comes up like every other month. ok... it kinda sucks for people w/ original parts that now see a bunch of other cars w/ replicas but hey, business is business and lot of guys that would otherwise never have had a chance to buy stuff like feed "style" bumpers now have them and are probalby really happy with them.
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Originally posted by rotaryextreme
The bottom line is I can have it done, you can't. Where is your one piece front end now??
The bottom line is I can have it done, you can't. Where is your one piece front end now??
Chuck,
I believe you have great products but you have to chill out a little. I didn't think DK's comment was mean't negativly towards your idea, and even if you thought it was the business thing to do would be to handle it through pm's.
I see the comment above as being really assanine and really full of yourself. It's ok to have cofidence in your work/ideas but don't act dumb and act like you own every idea for a FD Fiberglass part ever made.
Did Panspeed call you up and say "The bottom line is we have it done and you can't do it!!"?? Did they? Then what right do you have to say to DK that he can't do it? That's really how you're sounding to other people.
Again you sell lots of aero parts and make lots of them too(and you're good at it) and you should feel good about your acomplishments but IMHO you can't tell someone "they can't make one" when you know very little about them. What if he already made a one-off one for his car and still had the mold(s)? My dad made his own 1 peice front end way back in the 70's and he's not a rich man nor did he have his own fiberglass/composites shop. So I am sure with enough intelligence and know-how DK could have already made one.
I don't know who had the idea first for a one peice rx7 front end(DK or you?) and I really could care less but one of you must have leaked it to Panspeed in Japan and one of you must have leaked the general idea to all the guys in the 1970's to use it on their muscle cars.
So in my opinion it's neither one of your ideas to make a 1 peice front end, it's merely AN idea to make a one peice front end for a FD that probably 100,000,000 FD owners have had at one time or another. And yes rotaryextreme someone probably even had the idea before you. Are Rotary Extreme and DK the only ones that can make them? Of course not.
On the fiberglass one peice front ends if you could make them semi-durable and semi easy to take on and off it would be about the same price as buying a regular fiberglass hood/front end so people may consider it for more show/race type cars since 2k is around what you'd pay for a vented hood/front end.(I believe you want $2k for the fiberglass one peice?).
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09-05-02, 07:31 AM
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Black99:
I hope you read the whole thread before making your comments. I might sound harsh sometimes but if you know the background stories and follow the whole thread without jumping into conclusion, you will understand.
1. If DK has the ability to do the one piece front end, why did he state that he contacted me 3 years ago to make one for him? Actually I don't think I ever got his phone call. In this thread, I asked him for his name to refresh my memory but he is not telling. So I don't know if I really know him or not. Until now, I still don't know who DK is. If I claim I can make a particualr product but then again I asked other people to make it for me, what does that tell you? Maybe I just don't have the ability to make one myself? If you try to come out with a new product and someone you don't get along very well just comes to you and says, "God, I thought of it 4 years ago already!". Does it sound like he is dissing you? I am very open to people's opinions and that's how I can come out with a new product every month by listening to people of what they want and what they need. But this kind of comment is nothing constructive especially from someone who I don't get along very well in the past.
2. I am not saying I am the first one to come out with the idea of the one piece front end. I already said the idea is out before DK was even born. In fact, Panspeed already made one. There is nothing new here. Debating who comes out with the idea is not the main thing here. The main thing of this thread to to see who is interested so I can have it made.
3. Dk has this grudge against me from before. You probabaly don't know what went on before so you think I am treating a innocent member poorly.
4. The main point is that I am just trying to gain some interest on this product and I need some positive feed back. That's it. This has nothing to do with how great I think I am or I am the only one who can make it. I am not the first. Panspeed already made one and I even posted a picture of it myself. I know this thread is very long and off topic a lot of times. Maybe that's why you got the wrong idea of how I am. Thank you for your concern anyways.
5. If you do a search on rotary extreme and read all the threads, you will find out only those 5 people having problems with me from day one. 5 out of 20k memembers isn't that bad so does that mean I am still beloved by most people? =P
Chuck Huang
I hope you read the whole thread before making your comments. I might sound harsh sometimes but if you know the background stories and follow the whole thread without jumping into conclusion, you will understand.
1. If DK has the ability to do the one piece front end, why did he state that he contacted me 3 years ago to make one for him? Actually I don't think I ever got his phone call. In this thread, I asked him for his name to refresh my memory but he is not telling. So I don't know if I really know him or not. Until now, I still don't know who DK is. If I claim I can make a particualr product but then again I asked other people to make it for me, what does that tell you? Maybe I just don't have the ability to make one myself? If you try to come out with a new product and someone you don't get along very well just comes to you and says, "God, I thought of it 4 years ago already!". Does it sound like he is dissing you? I am very open to people's opinions and that's how I can come out with a new product every month by listening to people of what they want and what they need. But this kind of comment is nothing constructive especially from someone who I don't get along very well in the past.
2. I am not saying I am the first one to come out with the idea of the one piece front end. I already said the idea is out before DK was even born. In fact, Panspeed already made one. There is nothing new here. Debating who comes out with the idea is not the main thing here. The main thing of this thread to to see who is interested so I can have it made.
3. Dk has this grudge against me from before. You probabaly don't know what went on before so you think I am treating a innocent member poorly.
4. The main point is that I am just trying to gain some interest on this product and I need some positive feed back. That's it. This has nothing to do with how great I think I am or I am the only one who can make it. I am not the first. Panspeed already made one and I even posted a picture of it myself. I know this thread is very long and off topic a lot of times. Maybe that's why you got the wrong idea of how I am. Thank you for your concern anyways.
5. If you do a search on rotary extreme and read all the threads, you will find out only those 5 people having problems with me from day one. 5 out of 20k memembers isn't that bad so does that mean I am still beloved by most people? =P
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by black99
Chuck,
I believe you have great products but you have to chill out a little. I didn't think DK's comment was mean't negativly towards your idea, and even if you thought it was the business thing to do would be to handle it through pm's.
I see the comment above as being really assanine and really full of yourself. It's ok to have cofidence in your work/ideas but don't act dumb and act like you own every idea for a FD Fiberglass part ever made.
Did Panspeed call you up and say "The bottom line is we have it done and you can't do it!!"?? Did they? Then what right do you have to say to DK that he can't do it? That's really how you're sounding to other people.
Again you sell lots of aero parts and make lots of them too(and you're good at it) and you should feel good about your acomplishments but IMHO you can't tell someone "they can't make one" when you know very little about them. What if he already made a one-off one for his car and still had the mold(s)? My dad made his own 1 peice front end way back in the 70's and he's not a rich man nor did he have his own fiberglass/composites shop. So I am sure with enough intelligence and know-how DK could have already made one.
I don't know who had the idea first for a one peice rx7 front end(DK or you?) and I really could care less but one of you must have leaked it to Panspeed in Japan and one of you must have leaked the general idea to all the guys in the 1970's to use it on their muscle cars.
So in my opinion it's neither one of your ideas to make a 1 peice front end, it's merely AN idea to make a one peice front end for a FD that probably 100,000,000 FD owners have had at one time or another. And yes rotaryextreme someone probably even had the idea before you. Are Rotary Extreme and DK the only ones that can make them? Of course not.
On the fiberglass one peice front ends if you could make them semi-durable and semi easy to take on and off it would be about the same price as buying a regular fiberglass hood/front end so people may consider it for more show/race type cars since 2k is around what you'd pay for a vented hood/front end.(I believe you want $2k for the fiberglass one peice?).
Chuck,
I believe you have great products but you have to chill out a little. I didn't think DK's comment was mean't negativly towards your idea, and even if you thought it was the business thing to do would be to handle it through pm's.
I see the comment above as being really assanine and really full of yourself. It's ok to have cofidence in your work/ideas but don't act dumb and act like you own every idea for a FD Fiberglass part ever made.
Did Panspeed call you up and say "The bottom line is we have it done and you can't do it!!"?? Did they? Then what right do you have to say to DK that he can't do it? That's really how you're sounding to other people.
Again you sell lots of aero parts and make lots of them too(and you're good at it) and you should feel good about your acomplishments but IMHO you can't tell someone "they can't make one" when you know very little about them. What if he already made a one-off one for his car and still had the mold(s)? My dad made his own 1 peice front end way back in the 70's and he's not a rich man nor did he have his own fiberglass/composites shop. So I am sure with enough intelligence and know-how DK could have already made one.
I don't know who had the idea first for a one peice rx7 front end(DK or you?) and I really could care less but one of you must have leaked it to Panspeed in Japan and one of you must have leaked the general idea to all the guys in the 1970's to use it on their muscle cars.
So in my opinion it's neither one of your ideas to make a 1 peice front end, it's merely AN idea to make a one peice front end for a FD that probably 100,000,000 FD owners have had at one time or another. And yes rotaryextreme someone probably even had the idea before you. Are Rotary Extreme and DK the only ones that can make them? Of course not.
On the fiberglass one peice front ends if you could make them semi-durable and semi easy to take on and off it would be about the same price as buying a regular fiberglass hood/front end so people may consider it for more show/race type cars since 2k is around what you'd pay for a vented hood/front end.(I believe you want $2k for the fiberglass one peice?).
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09-20-02, 12:17 AM
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So is this deal going to go through Chuck? Let me just tell everyone that is even thinking about getting this one piece front that it is an awesome deal for onlt $2000. If you figure custom wide fenders are $1000, FB is at least $500, and a hood will run at least $500. That's $2000 right there and you still won't even know how different companies pieces will fit with each other. This one piece will give a way better look and fitment. Chuck, check your PM
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N-Tech has had a one piece carbon fiber nose available for some time now, for $2000.00. It is wider than stock by more than two inches, and the wheel arches have more room for taller tires or a lower front end. Email me at nick@ntechengineering.com for pictures.
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Hey Chuck, have you considered small aluminum/steel fender & rear 1/4 panel extensions?
The biggest thing I keep hearing is how the Pettit kit looks TOO tacked on. I keep reading how people just want a SMALL and suttle extension kit that will stick out maybe an inch or so allowing to comfortably use 295s at the back and 285s in the front with no worries of rubbing.
The biggest thing I keep hearing is how the Pettit kit looks TOO tacked on. I keep reading how people just want a SMALL and suttle extension kit that will stick out maybe an inch or so allowing to comfortably use 295s at the back and 285s in the front with no worries of rubbing.
