Oil catch can setup on my race car.
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After getting some PMs and questions about this setup, I want to clarify something:
The old oil return line is NOT used as a oil return line, it becomes a air venting location in this setup.
Some people are thinking that this is there as an oil return line for the catch can, IT IS NOT, it is a VENT LINE. There is NO oil return line from the catch can back to the oil pan in my setup.
Any oil that accumulates in the catch can is drained later with a valve at the bottom of the can and then discarded.
Remember, the goal is not to 'catch' oil in the catch can and return it to the pan, the goal is to vent the pan so that air can escape without pushign oil out with it. The catch can is in place to catch the small amount of oil that may get by our venting and/or oil 'mist' in the air that we can accumulate in the can while letting the air get out. Ideally oil should never get to the catch can if the oil pan is vented properly.
The old oil return line is NOT used as a oil return line, it becomes a air venting location in this setup.
Some people are thinking that this is there as an oil return line for the catch can, IT IS NOT, it is a VENT LINE. There is NO oil return line from the catch can back to the oil pan in my setup.
Any oil that accumulates in the catch can is drained later with a valve at the bottom of the can and then discarded.
Remember, the goal is not to 'catch' oil in the catch can and return it to the pan, the goal is to vent the pan so that air can escape without pushign oil out with it. The catch can is in place to catch the small amount of oil that may get by our venting and/or oil 'mist' in the air that we can accumulate in the can while letting the air get out. Ideally oil should never get to the catch can if the oil pan is vented properly.
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I don't do near the track events you do, but wanted to do it once and do it right. The only difference is I used the cheaper push loc hose and fittings, and just used a 1/2 npt tap to put an -10 an fitting in the re speed filler neck. Works great, I get nothing but moisture out of it for the most part.
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I don't do near the track events you do, but wanted to do it once and do it right. The only difference is I used the cheaper push loc hose and fittings, and just used a 1/2 npt tap to put an -10 an fitting in the re speed filler neck. Works great, I get nothing but moisture out of it for the most part.
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Excellent, Damian!
I wonder if there's a way to do something similar for people running twins that still use that oil return on the back of the block.
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The key outside the box part of your design is the fitting on the passenger side of the block - that's just brilliant!
Dale
I wonder if there's a way to do something similar for people running twins that still use that oil return on the back of the block.
<SNIP>
The key outside the box part of your design is the fitting on the passenger side of the block - that's just brilliant!
Dale
:-) neil
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Im doing this same thing now with mine. Heres what I did the the right side and too little room to use a normal fitting thanks to the wastgate on my car.
Ill post pics of it all finished when I get the rest of the parts back for the car.
Ill post pics of it all finished when I get the rest of the parts back for the car.
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This pic shows the basic setup and routing I have now. I plan to redoe the lines in the future, place the tank in a better place for the line routing:
More internal baffling, I had the welder weld in a small tube that passes through the filler neck, the bottom side that you cant see I angled so that the bottom is very open. This also prevent any oil being poured in to go into the vent line.
If you don't mind me asking - Could you custom weld an aluminum filler neck exactly like yours for me? (you may need to market this simple design and profit from it)
If so how much would it cost me if you custom created/welded me an aluminum filler neck like yours (my engine is S5 13BT but the spacing between your filler neck as in comparison to mine is almost exactly the same, if not it is the same).
Shipped to Sioux Falls SD 57104
Thanks and much appreciated
-Matthew
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Thanks Mattew,
I purchased the actual neck and then created the extra port and baffle for the line to the catch can and had a local shop weld it in place.
The best thing would be to get the original maker of the neck to make another 'catch can' version, with my changes....but I dont rememebr who originally made it. LOL
I purchased the actual neck and then created the extra port and baffle for the line to the catch can and had a local shop weld it in place.
The best thing would be to get the original maker of the neck to make another 'catch can' version, with my changes....but I dont rememebr who originally made it. LOL
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Re Speed made that oil filler neck. I'm not sure if they always stock. If they don't they do some Group Buys now and then for it.
http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=114_54
http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=114_54
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Damien emailed us and told us about the thread here.
We most certainly could work up a "Damian Racing" version of our filler for those that want to add the large -10 line and catch can.
We are finishing our current group buy for the next batch of fillers this week. I will start looking into the new design and should have something over the next few weeks.
We have been doing these on group buys only for the last few months to cut back on inventory levels. The plan is to bring them back to "in stock" over the next month and may add this one to the line up.
Thanks,
-billy
We most certainly could work up a "Damian Racing" version of our filler for those that want to add the large -10 line and catch can.
We are finishing our current group buy for the next batch of fillers this week. I will start looking into the new design and should have something over the next few weeks.
We have been doing these on group buys only for the last few months to cut back on inventory levels. The plan is to bring them back to "in stock" over the next month and may add this one to the line up.
Thanks,
-billy
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Damien emailed us and told us about the thread here.
We most certainly could work up a "Damian Racing" version of our filler for those that want to add the large -10 line and catch can.
We are finishing our current group buy for the next batch of fillers this week. I will start looking into the new design and should have something over the next few weeks.
We have been doing these on group buys only for the last few months to cut back on inventory levels. The plan is to bring them back to "in stock" over the next month and may add this one to the line up.
Thanks,
-billy
We most certainly could work up a "Damian Racing" version of our filler for those that want to add the large -10 line and catch can.
We are finishing our current group buy for the next batch of fillers this week. I will start looking into the new design and should have something over the next few weeks.
We have been doing these on group buys only for the last few months to cut back on inventory levels. The plan is to bring them back to "in stock" over the next month and may add this one to the line up.
Thanks,
-billy
Thanks,
-Matt
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Damien emailed us and told us about the thread here.
We most certainly could work up a "Damian Racing" version of our filler for those that want to add the large -10 line and catch can.
We are finishing our current group buy for the next batch of fillers this week. I will start looking into the new design and should have something over the next few weeks.
We have been doing these on group buys only for the last few months to cut back on inventory levels. The plan is to bring them back to "in stock" over the next month and may add this one to the line up.
Thanks,
-billy
We most certainly could work up a "Damian Racing" version of our filler for those that want to add the large -10 line and catch can.
We are finishing our current group buy for the next batch of fillers this week. I will start looking into the new design and should have something over the next few weeks.
We have been doing these on group buys only for the last few months to cut back on inventory levels. The plan is to bring them back to "in stock" over the next month and may add this one to the line up.
Thanks,
-billy
I already ordered, but haven't received my oil-filler. Can you make mine the "Damian Racing" version ?
Thanks,
:-) neil
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Looks like this could be used for the filler neck? I'm not sure what the second hole would be used for in Damian's setup though...
https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-center-69/stainless-steel-baffled-oil-filler-neck-895397/
https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-center-69/stainless-steel-baffled-oil-filler-neck-895397/
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Looks like this could be used for the filler neck? I'm not sure what the second hole would be used for in Damian's setup though...
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=895397
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=895397
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Hey Damian, I have this same setup on my track car (almost identical) and after the cars first testing session on a right hand (clockwise) track, its still filling a 1Litre catch can and making a right mess of the engine bay/windscreen after about 5-6 laps? The car is making about 345kw on 17psi but it does the same thing on low boost of 11psi. Only ever fills the can on the track and never on the street. And its only happening during HARD cornering laps. If im lazy around the corners, its not an issue.
How is yours holding up? Can you offer any other advise?
How is yours holding up? Can you offer any other advise?
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Hey Damian, I have this same setup on my track car (almost identical) and after the cars first testing session on a right hand (clockwise) track, its still filling a 1Litre catch can and making a right mess of the engine bay/windscreen after about 5-6 laps? The car is making about 345kw on 17psi but it does the same thing on low boost of 11psi. Only ever fills the can on the track and never on the street. And its only happening during HARD cornering laps. If im lazy around the corners, its not an issue.
How is yours holding up? Can you offer any other advise?
How is yours holding up? Can you offer any other advise?
Pics of your set-up would help!