Noob needs FMIC
10-30-06, 10:53 PM
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Noob needs FMIC
I plan on taking my Fd down to Texas a few months from now, I would like a front mount intercooler cause I could be wrong but it would be better in the heat. Plus it looks cooler, am I right? :-p
Anyhoo. Just bought this Rx7 and want to add a downpipe so I was told to upgrade intercoolers. (mind you I'm not enhancing the engine anymore than this) I have a catback already aswell, and I'll go intake too.. but just these things.
I dont need anything crazy, just something that will fit, and work for my stock setup. Open to all opinions, thanks guys.
Anyhoo. Just bought this Rx7 and want to add a downpipe so I was told to upgrade intercoolers. (mind you I'm not enhancing the engine anymore than this) I have a catback already aswell, and I'll go intake too.. but just these things.
I dont need anything crazy, just something that will fit, and work for my stock setup. Open to all opinions, thanks guys.
10-30-06, 11:00 PM
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so you want an FMIC because it looks cool and is better for the heat? First think about the air youll be blocking to the radiator that can cause a potential over heating problem. Second you need to look into intercooler effiency and pressure drop etc...If that is all your doing to your car a FMIC is pointless..IMO. Get a bigger stock mount with proper ducting. No need to do something to a car performance wise because it looks "cool"
10-30-06, 11:01 PM
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If you're moving to a HOTTER climate, a FMIC would be a terrible option. It blocks the cool air flow to the radiator. Just go with an upgraded SMIC. Especially if you don't plan to modify the car any further.
10-30-06, 11:03 PM
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Thats what I told Timtwinturbo.. I thought it would block the radiator.. he seemed to think nothing of it. Sorry! Thanks for correcting me. Good prices on SMIC's?
10-30-06, 11:07 PM
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Thats what I told Timtwinturbo.. I thought it would block the radiator.. he seemed to think nothing of it. Sorry! Thanks for correcting me. Good prices on SMIC's?
prices on SMIC used can range anywhere from 600-1200 for small stock mounts to larger stock mounts. If i were you, you could just get a greddy smic or ARC smic for arounf 600-700 bucks and have decent cooling for the AIT's. A larger stock mount like the M2/ASP large or the pettit coolchargre III can go from 1000-1500 used to new. Alot of single turbo guys use those and alot of track peeps on this forum..
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10-30-06, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle7
Thats what I told Timtwinturbo.. I thought it would block the radiator.. he seemed to think nothing of it. Sorry! Thanks for correcting me. Good prices on SMIC's?
10-30-06, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by charlies7
prices on SMIC used can range anywhere from 600-1200 for small stock mounts to larger stock mounts. If i were you, you could just get a greddy smic or ARC smic for arounf 600-700 bucks and have decent cooling for the AIT's. A larger stock mount like the M2/ASP large or the pettit coolchargre III can go from 1000-1500 used to new. Alot of single turbo guys use those and alot of track peeps on this forum..
10-30-06, 11:17 PM
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In my opinion I would replace the following (just common practice for myself and freinds cars that listen to me and my upgrade list...):
1. Stock radiator -- Replace with a Koyo or / insert-after market name here... Fludyne is another common one I believe.
2. Replace the Plastic AST with a Metal one. (Petit, Gotham Racing, RX7store.net various places sell them..) (One thing to note here: I was provided with a 16lbs cap, which I used for about 10k miles. Then after bursting two throttle body hoses, I decided to go back to a 13lbs cap. I know there was some sort of recall for this problem of bursting hoses but I had everything fresh from a rebuild and decided to try it for it being summer reasons...) I recommend staying at a 13lbs cap.
3. If you have an after market ECU set your fans to turn on at lower temps. (I think mine are at 90c, 95c and 100c for the levels...
4. Then think about your intercooler. If you go FMIC you will be blocking air as everyone has said. Its a huge debate on the forums here. I am on this fence of: Anything to keep these cars cooler the better, I would much prefer to have my Radiator have the fresh air, then second hand air after it passes through the IC. Engine cooling first, Air intake temps second.
As said above a properly ducted SMIC (Stock mount intercooler... Such as ASP/M2) will be just fine for an upgrade to the stock setup.
These are just my opinions obviously. I can't push this enough: Radiator upgrade first, to hell with the intercooler if your engine is cooked! If you plan on tracking the car in that heat I would either add a second oil cooler or upgrade the existing one before the IC.
1. Stock radiator -- Replace with a Koyo or / insert-after market name here... Fludyne is another common one I believe.
2. Replace the Plastic AST with a Metal one. (Petit, Gotham Racing, RX7store.net various places sell them..) (One thing to note here: I was provided with a 16lbs cap, which I used for about 10k miles. Then after bursting two throttle body hoses, I decided to go back to a 13lbs cap. I know there was some sort of recall for this problem of bursting hoses but I had everything fresh from a rebuild and decided to try it for it being summer reasons...) I recommend staying at a 13lbs cap.
3. If you have an after market ECU set your fans to turn on at lower temps. (I think mine are at 90c, 95c and 100c for the levels...
4. Then think about your intercooler. If you go FMIC you will be blocking air as everyone has said. Its a huge debate on the forums here. I am on this fence of: Anything to keep these cars cooler the better, I would much prefer to have my Radiator have the fresh air, then second hand air after it passes through the IC. Engine cooling first, Air intake temps second.
As said above a properly ducted SMIC (Stock mount intercooler... Such as ASP/M2) will be just fine for an upgrade to the stock setup.
These are just my opinions obviously. I can't push this enough: Radiator upgrade first, to hell with the intercooler if your engine is cooked! If you plan on tracking the car in that heat I would either add a second oil cooler or upgrade the existing one before the IC.
10-30-06, 11:19 PM
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i need a picnic table to eat out your mom with. sike. i think its sexy with my paint. then again im 19. maybe ill grow out of it. thanks though ill go checkout those smics.
10-30-06, 11:29 PM
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3. If you have an after market ECU set your fans to turn on at lower temps. (I think mine are at 90c, 95c and 100c for the levels...
These are just my opinions obviously. I can't push this enough: Radiator upgrade first, to hell with the intercooler if your engine is cooked! If you plan on tracking the car in that heat I would either add a second oil cooler or upgrade the existing one before the IC.
As for the oil cooler, I do agree that it's an important upgrade, but not nearly as important as the IC upgrade.
10-30-06, 11:32 PM
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i need a picnic table to eat out your mom with. sike. i think its sexy with my paint. then again im 19. maybe ill grow out of it. thanks though ill go checkout those smics.
10-30-06, 11:38 PM
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that show is sweet. but i didnt need a comment dissing my car. were all Fd ownders here have some respect. i just bought it.
10-30-06, 11:39 PM
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oh, and the radiator is upgraded. Im not going to drive the car but a few times a month, I'm heading to hensons with my buddy danny and were getting ls1 swaps. and... no i dont know anything about rotarys and turbo's im only wishing to upgrade for relaibility in the heat until we do our swaps this summer...
10-30-06, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle7
oh, and the radiator is upgraded. Im not going to drive the car but a few times a month, I'm heading to hensons with my buddy danny and were getting ls1 swaps. and... no i dont know anything about rotarys and turbo's im only wishing to upgrade for relaibility in the heat until we do our swaps this summer...
10-30-06, 11:42 PM
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oh **** i was thinking of that other show with the black kid that has red/blue teams...chris brown i think or whoever that kid is.. not Fez and that show. my bad. thanks your the first to start the grief but this isnt a honda it does have rear wheel, i dont undestand, but whatever thanks.
10-30-06, 11:44 PM
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I needed a car to drive NOW, and im heading to texas with it, I was planning all of this concerning the wellbeing of the car in the texas heat down here, until I get the swap.
