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Old May 19, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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RYAN..

You making me Jealous.. = )
SO you did the conversion.
Awesome.. So was it as difficult
as I imagine it would be?? How long
did it take you? I guess your PMC is
compatible with your NonSeq.

Now bring your car down and take
me for a ride. I wanna see how it feels.

You ****. always upping the bar on modding
FD3S.. LOL.. slow down let me catch up..

Lataz
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Old May 19, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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Do you think it actually is faster now that you are non-seq or does it just feel faster because the lag is more noticable and the boost hits all at once?
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Old May 19, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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Please let us know Ryan what times you turn - I've been eyeing this mod for a while!

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Old May 19, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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I would love to see your before and after times, I was thinking about doing the conversion. It only took you a half an hour? So it must not be too tough.
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Old May 19, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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1/2 hour??? thats IT?

I read the HOW TO on the " lighting in world of
tunder" forum, and it seemed rather complex
and a PITA to do. But i guess for you. its a
breeze..
Deffinately will be interesting to see what times you pull
at the track with this set up.

Do you think you could convert it back to sequential
as easy as you made it non sequential??

Yea Airpump coming out soon.

lataz....
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Old May 19, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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WOW a PMS controller, I need one of those.

All joking aside, did you do the ¨poor man´s conversion¨ by altering the vacuum control lines only. Or did you get into the turbos themselves? If it´s only half an hour, it sounds like the ¨poor man´s conversion¨. Let´s see those performance numbers....
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Old May 19, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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I think your 60' ft time will be worse...but you should gain more medium and high end. I predict you'll hit about the same.
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Old May 19, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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It's funny how everybody jumps on the non-seq. bandwagon. I've been responding to a lot of threads about converting to non-seq. but everyone seems to just bash it and talks about lag. If you call full boost by 3200-3400 rms lag then I don't know what to tell you - go buy a C5 with torque. I'd put my FD against a similarly modded seq. FD and know I'd pull it. He would get a 1/2 length to a length it we started below 3K rpms or caught me off guard but when I sweep past the power band - I'm pulling all the way to redline. I have the full conversion with the rack gone, all solenoids and actuators gone, and the turbos themselves have been converted. I'm planning on doing upgraded twins non-seq. soon so we'll see how that compares to a single FD.
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Old May 19, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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you think it would make it easier if you had the engine out already? where did you get the directions for the conversion? Sounds interesting cant wait to see you 1/4 times. Best of luck. Marc
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Old May 19, 2002 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteRXseven
1/2 hour??? thats IT?
yeah, seems to me, if it was done correctly, it would take longer than that. (ie port the wastegate, etc)
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Old May 19, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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I went non-seq also and it really helps if you have a aftermarket exhaust. The factory muffler was making the turbos real laggy,then after installing a aftermarket SS muffler ,full boost came twice as fast. Also I used a spring to control the WG. I just could not get a pressure reg. to work right. Now Im running sequential because I had a small hick ups around 4k-7k rpms but thats fixed. Definitly im going back to non seq for several reasons as soon as i can.
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Old May 19, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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Ryan did you ever get the PMS to open the boost up at lower rpms? I am surprised you were dead even with Wargasms car. Non-sequential is the ****!

-Chris
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Old May 19, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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What kind of mods do you have to have in order to go to non sequential?

Thanks
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Old May 19, 2002 | 11:03 PM
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You really need a full exhaust, MP or high-flow cat. Also ECU to control... Power FC is great or like ryan said the PFS computer works good too.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 12:24 AM
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Heya,

I was out driving with Ryan (Don't Be a Rikki) last night... I've got a T04S running about 11/12 PSI and 6000 RPM redline (runs out of fuel).

We did numerous runs from 3rd - 4th gears and overall I'd say it was pretty damn even. His car pulls hard! It was a GREAT sound to hear our two cars ripping it up on the roads... hahah...

Anyhow, I'll get him when I'm tuned for 16 PSI!

Here's some video of the fun. All film is from my point of view... I love the sound of our two cars in the tunnel at the end. 22 Meg file / 2:15 ... sorry modem guys

http://www.zeroglabs.com/rx7/images/...ki-wargasm.mpg

(MODEM USER CLIFFS NOTES: Ryan's car squirts by on the gas, Ryan does a donut with some flames, we do a roll-on from 3rd, do another after that, Ryan does a flyby on me after whooping a Mustang, and we both go through a short underpass and make some noise)

Regards,

Brian
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Old May 20, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
BTW it is the poor man mod but I did a few things different to my setup than the norm. p.m if you need the directions. and no you do not need to port the wastegate to get a good solid boost. just time and patience... but a ported wastegate would make it easy. I am sending a unit out to bnr supercars to get a stage 2 set up and I hope to break 380HP on the dyno.

there is no difference between the poor mans that the real conversion UNLESS you port the wastegate. you are just removing solenoid's and putting resistors in them. WOW big deal I am fine with blocking pills. vacuum lines are not that big of a deal. If I sound cocky about it I am sorry I just think it is a better setup than seq. IMO

The Rikki
-Ryan
actually, yes there is. one of the biggest increases in power comes from the fact that your remove the prespool door in the exhaust manifold. so instead of it being one rotor open and the other partially open with a door after 4500, its always just straight through. this is why its so ***** fuggin loud with non sequential....

so try that out...even if its "open" all the way, its still there.

i have some non-sequential twins that are balanced, rebuilt, blueprinted and converted by KDR and a manifold which i have taken the aforementioned door out of and everything. i will be selling b/c i am going single.

if you want to buy, let me know
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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:09 AM
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I too read a little on Lightning in a World of thunder on the non-seq mod, and it seemed complex. I also read that w/ the Apex Power FC you can switch between seq and non-seq. That sounds attractive since you can drive sequential every day around town and then you can switch to non-seq in a highway race or something. Does the PFC way of doing it give you the FULL benefit of being non-seq or do you really have to go thru and remove the solenoids and vacuum hoses and stuff? Thanks.

Peace
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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by Droops83
I too read a little on Lightning in a World of thunder on the non-seq mod, and it seemed complex. I also read that w/ the Apex Power FC you can switch between seq and non-seq. That sounds attractive since you can drive sequential every day around town and then you can switch to non-seq in a highway race or something. Does the PFC way of doing it give you the FULL benefit of being non-seq or do you really have to go thru and remove the solenoids and vacuum hoses and stuff? Thanks.

Peace
Hmm... not really... I have the PFC and that setting is more for the upgrade to a single turbo. You can turn the sequential off.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:23 AM
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i read in the pfc manual that if u have seq turbo, u must have the seq option on. I thought if u turn it off with stock seq setup, it simply won't control it properly.

anyone tried turning the seq option off on pfc?
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Old May 20, 2002 | 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by Alpine
i read in the pfc manual that if u have seq turbo, u must have the seq option on. I thought if u turn it off with stock seq setup, it simply won't control it properly.

anyone tried turning the seq option off on pfc?
I know insted of using the wastegate to control boost when you turn the seq. off it changes to the turbo pre-control to control boost. That might open up a little exhaust flow to the secondary but unless it switches the Turbo Control Solenoid or the Charge Control Solenoid your not going to be able to get full exhaust flow or even use the boost that you make.

BTW - Sweet vid. I love the way the T04 sounds. The donut and the tunnel shots are great too. lol
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