NON SEQ. I should have done it sooner
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NON SEQ. I should have done it sooner
Well yesterday I went NON SEQ. and I must say it is truly awsome. the cars pulls so much harder and feels sooooo much better. thanx chris you da man!!! I went driving with wargasm last night and too my surprise we were dead even!! he runs a single to4s w/pfc and bunch of other mods but we were neck and neck... I should have done this sooner!! the stock twins have the same amount of lag of his to4s but with some wastegate tuning i should be able to get rid of a little bit of lag but all in all it is way better than SEQ. IMO.....
so if you are sick of spikes and dont want the problems with SEQ.(mine was running perfect in SEQ.) then you shoukd do it.IMO....
Thanx,
The Rikki
Ryan
so if you are sick of spikes and dont want the problems with SEQ.(mine was running perfect in SEQ.) then you shoukd do it.IMO....
Thanx,
The Rikki
Ryan
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RYAN..
You making me Jealous.. = )
SO you did the conversion.
Awesome.. So was it as difficult
as I imagine it would be?? How long
did it take you? I guess your PMC is
compatible with your NonSeq.
Now bring your car down and take
me for a ride. I wanna see how it feels.
You ****. always upping the bar on modding
FD3S.. LOL.. slow down let me catch up..
Lataz
You making me Jealous.. = )
SO you did the conversion.
Awesome.. So was it as difficult
as I imagine it would be?? How long
did it take you? I guess your PMC is
compatible with your NonSeq.
Now bring your car down and take
me for a ride. I wanna see how it feels.
You ****. always upping the bar on modding
FD3S.. LOL.. slow down let me catch up..
Lataz
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It took all of 1/2 hour... very easy! you should do it. I was hitting fuel cut a little bit with seq. but now it does not!! thank god. sean you should do it. and get rid of that dam airpump already.... the pms works great with non seq. no problems yet
-Ryan
-Ryan
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I would love to see your before and after times, I was thinking about doing the conversion. It only took you a half an hour? So it must not be too tough.
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1/2 hour??? thats IT?
I read the HOW TO on the " lighting in world of
tunder" forum, and it seemed rather complex
and a PITA to do. But i guess for you. its a
breeze..
Deffinately will be interesting to see what times you pull
at the track with this set up.
Do you think you could convert it back to sequential
as easy as you made it non sequential??
Yea Airpump coming out soon.
lataz....
I read the HOW TO on the " lighting in world of
tunder" forum, and it seemed rather complex
and a PITA to do. But i guess for you. its a
breeze..
Deffinately will be interesting to see what times you pull
at the track with this set up.
Do you think you could convert it back to sequential
as easy as you made it non sequential??
Yea Airpump coming out soon.
lataz....
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WOW a PMS controller, I need one of those.
All joking aside, did you do the ¨poor man´s conversion¨ by altering the vacuum control lines only. Or did you get into the turbos themselves? If it´s only half an hour, it sounds like the ¨poor man´s conversion¨. Let´s see those performance numbers....
All joking aside, did you do the ¨poor man´s conversion¨ by altering the vacuum control lines only. Or did you get into the turbos themselves? If it´s only half an hour, it sounds like the ¨poor man´s conversion¨. Let´s see those performance numbers....
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It's funny how everybody jumps on the non-seq. bandwagon. I've been responding to a lot of threads about converting to non-seq. but everyone seems to just bash it and talks about lag. If you call full boost by 3200-3400 rms lag then I don't know what to tell you - go buy a C5 with torque. I'd put my FD against a similarly modded seq. FD and know I'd pull it. He would get a 1/2 length to a length it we started below 3K rpms or caught me off guard but when I sweep past the power band - I'm pulling all the way to redline. I have the full conversion with the rack gone, all solenoids and actuators gone, and the turbos themselves have been converted. I'm planning on doing upgraded twins non-seq. soon so we'll see how that compares to a single FD.
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you think it would make it easier if you had the engine out already? where did you get the directions for the conversion? Sounds interesting cant wait to see you 1/4 times. Best of luck. Marc
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Originally posted by WhiteRXseven
1/2 hour??? thats IT?
1/2 hour??? thats IT?
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well I ran a t04s and was right beside him the whole way and on a few boost runs I took him so I am convinced that it is a better setup like I said it still needs some tune'n but it is way better than seq. bottom line IMO... I will post my time when I get back from capitol raceway and my 60' foot time will actually be better because I had wheel hop soooo bad but now it is smoother and pulls a lot better. if you have not done it I dont wont to even bother talking about pro's and con's of the conversion. IMO it is much better than seq. bottom line P.M wargasm he will speak for me.. my car pulls strong as **** he has it on video.. there is your proof... so if you want a fast fd on stock twins go non seq.!! if you are scared of power then dont do it. it will be the best mod since a MID-PIPE!!! IMO.
-Ryan
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BTW it is the poor man mod but I did a few things different to my setup than the norm. p.m if you need the directions. and no you do not need to port the wastegate to get a good solid boost. just time and patience... but a ported wastegate would make it easy. I am sending a unit out to bnr supercars to get a stage 2 set up and I hope to break 380HP on the dyno.
there is no difference between the poor mans that the real conversion UNLESS you port the wastegate. you are just removing solenoid's and putting resistors in them. WOW big deal I am fine with blocking pills. vacuum lines are not that big of a deal. If I sound cocky about it I am sorry I just think it is a better setup than seq. IMO
The Rikki
-Ryan
there is no difference between the poor mans that the real conversion UNLESS you port the wastegate. you are just removing solenoid's and putting resistors in them. WOW big deal I am fine with blocking pills. vacuum lines are not that big of a deal. If I sound cocky about it I am sorry I just think it is a better setup than seq. IMO
The Rikki
-Ryan
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I went non-seq also and it really helps if you have a aftermarket exhaust. The factory muffler was making the turbos real laggy,then after installing a aftermarket SS muffler ,full boost came twice as fast. Also I used a spring to control the WG. I just could not get a pressure reg. to work right. Now Im running sequential because I had a small hick ups around 4k-7k rpms but thats fixed. Definitly im going back to non seq for several reasons as soon as i can.
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Heya,
I was out driving with Ryan (Don't Be a Rikki) last night... I've got a T04S running about 11/12 PSI and 6000 RPM redline (runs out of fuel).
We did numerous runs from 3rd - 4th gears and overall I'd say it was pretty damn even. His car pulls hard! It was a GREAT sound to hear our two cars ripping it up on the roads... hahah...
Anyhow, I'll get him when I'm tuned for 16 PSI!
Here's some video of the fun. All film is from my point of view... I love the sound of our two cars in the tunnel at the end. 22 Meg file / 2:15 ... sorry modem guys
http://www.zeroglabs.com/rx7/images/...ki-wargasm.mpg
(MODEM USER CLIFFS NOTES: Ryan's car squirts by on the gas, Ryan does a donut with some flames, we do a roll-on from 3rd, do another after that, Ryan does a flyby on me after whooping a Mustang, and we both go through a short underpass and make some noise)
Regards,
Brian
I was out driving with Ryan (Don't Be a Rikki) last night... I've got a T04S running about 11/12 PSI and 6000 RPM redline (runs out of fuel).
We did numerous runs from 3rd - 4th gears and overall I'd say it was pretty damn even. His car pulls hard! It was a GREAT sound to hear our two cars ripping it up on the roads... hahah...
Anyhow, I'll get him when I'm tuned for 16 PSI!
Here's some video of the fun. All film is from my point of view... I love the sound of our two cars in the tunnel at the end. 22 Meg file / 2:15 ... sorry modem guys
http://www.zeroglabs.com/rx7/images/...ki-wargasm.mpg
(MODEM USER CLIFFS NOTES: Ryan's car squirts by on the gas, Ryan does a donut with some flames, we do a roll-on from 3rd, do another after that, Ryan does a flyby on me after whooping a Mustang, and we both go through a short underpass and make some noise)
Regards,
Brian
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
BTW it is the poor man mod but I did a few things different to my setup than the norm. p.m if you need the directions. and no you do not need to port the wastegate to get a good solid boost. just time and patience... but a ported wastegate would make it easy. I am sending a unit out to bnr supercars to get a stage 2 set up and I hope to break 380HP on the dyno.
there is no difference between the poor mans that the real conversion UNLESS you port the wastegate. you are just removing solenoid's and putting resistors in them. WOW big deal I am fine with blocking pills. vacuum lines are not that big of a deal. If I sound cocky about it I am sorry I just think it is a better setup than seq. IMO
The Rikki
-Ryan
BTW it is the poor man mod but I did a few things different to my setup than the norm. p.m if you need the directions. and no you do not need to port the wastegate to get a good solid boost. just time and patience... but a ported wastegate would make it easy. I am sending a unit out to bnr supercars to get a stage 2 set up and I hope to break 380HP on the dyno.
there is no difference between the poor mans that the real conversion UNLESS you port the wastegate. you are just removing solenoid's and putting resistors in them. WOW big deal I am fine with blocking pills. vacuum lines are not that big of a deal. If I sound cocky about it I am sorry I just think it is a better setup than seq. IMO
The Rikki
-Ryan
so try that out...even if its "open" all the way, its still there.
i have some non-sequential twins that are balanced, rebuilt, blueprinted and converted by KDR and a manifold which i have taken the aforementioned door out of and everything. i will be selling b/c i am going single.
if you want to buy, let me know
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I too read a little on Lightning in a World of thunder on the non-seq mod, and it seemed complex. I also read that w/ the Apex Power FC you can switch between seq and non-seq. That sounds attractive since you can drive sequential every day around town and then you can switch to non-seq in a highway race or something. Does the PFC way of doing it give you the FULL benefit of being non-seq or do you really have to go thru and remove the solenoids and vacuum hoses and stuff? Thanks.
Peace
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Originally posted by Droops83
I too read a little on Lightning in a World of thunder on the non-seq mod, and it seemed complex. I also read that w/ the Apex Power FC you can switch between seq and non-seq. That sounds attractive since you can drive sequential every day around town and then you can switch to non-seq in a highway race or something. Does the PFC way of doing it give you the FULL benefit of being non-seq or do you really have to go thru and remove the solenoids and vacuum hoses and stuff? Thanks.
Peace
I too read a little on Lightning in a World of thunder on the non-seq mod, and it seemed complex. I also read that w/ the Apex Power FC you can switch between seq and non-seq. That sounds attractive since you can drive sequential every day around town and then you can switch to non-seq in a highway race or something. Does the PFC way of doing it give you the FULL benefit of being non-seq or do you really have to go thru and remove the solenoids and vacuum hoses and stuff? Thanks.
Peace
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i read in the pfc manual that if u have seq turbo, u must have the seq option on. I thought if u turn it off with stock seq setup, it simply won't control it properly.
anyone tried turning the seq option off on pfc?
anyone tried turning the seq option off on pfc?
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Originally posted by Alpine
i read in the pfc manual that if u have seq turbo, u must have the seq option on. I thought if u turn it off with stock seq setup, it simply won't control it properly.
anyone tried turning the seq option off on pfc?
i read in the pfc manual that if u have seq turbo, u must have the seq option on. I thought if u turn it off with stock seq setup, it simply won't control it properly.
anyone tried turning the seq option off on pfc?
BTW - Sweet vid. I love the way the T04 sounds. The donut and the tunnel shots are great too. lol