WhiteRXseven

I come to realize something..

Only way to be competitive in ET racing in any
modified class is to use Nitrous.

All you Nitrous naysayers, I understand/respect
your points of view about building true horsepower
and etc.. BUT..

When you are at the track, and all the contenders
are running low 11's and 10's Using Nitrous..
you really dont haev much of a choice.

Which leads to my question.

Conscensus say its only safe to Do a 50shot of Nitrous.
on a FD3S, is this true??

Are there any prerequiste/mod to do to a FD3S before
you consider running nitrous..

SO if I am running say high12's -low 13's, HOw much would a 50shot of nitrous effect 1/4 ets????


Thanks

ejmack1

It's a coverup i tell yah!

Leprechaun

Someone explain this to me...

Why are NOS cars in the same class as non-NOS?

When I see 1/4 times with NOS I snore myself to sleep....who cares what you can do with NOS? Meaningless. It makes great drama (cough) for FnF but in the real racing world times with NOS are "asterik" times and nobody really even cares about them....

7-sins

With NOS or not 10s or 11s is what most contenders run. You should go into it with that idea in mind and keep your car around those times. Wasn't Ray in the 10s before NOS? And I know Rikki just got into the 11s. I say put the money towards some reliable power especially if your engine is getting up there in miles. Maybe we can convince Rikki to spray and we can see the difference. If you plan to run lower than 11s you might want to look into a new turbo kit… the stock turbos can only kick so much.

Like Leprechaun said why are both in the same class???

95R2-89TII Ground Zero

I understand building the true horsepower, but I've heard that true horse is not turbo either...so who's to say that NOS isn't. I'm not stepping on anyones toes at all, I'm just stating what I've heard. I'm on the fence about this one. I want NOS, just because of the added performance, but then I don't want it because I'm trying to do it natural....it's like training at the gym. You can traing naturally and grow steady, or you can train with additives and grow dramatically. It's all on how you want to do it. I wouldn't knock anyone for using it, and I would for not either. It's up to them.

jr

Please people, let's call it N2O or Nitrous. NOS is a brand name that was over glorified in TFATF.

Check the rules for the class you want to run in and see what power adders they allow. If they allow N2O then it will be hard to be competitive in that class if your not using it, because chances are everyone else will be. I'm sure there are classes that only allow one power adder.

As far as prequisites to running N2O all you need is fuel. A 50 shot is probably the most you can run without making major modifications to the fuel system, but I think more (100-150) is possible if you build the fuel system for it.

95R2-89TII Ground Zero

With the fuel upgrades that I've made, I can run a 100 shot without difficulty.

forcefed7

They are in the same class but with different weight requirements.

SPOautos

If you have the fuel for more nitrous why not turn up the boost???

STEPHEN

ttpowerd

If you are still running the stock turbos you will be way past their efficiency level and therefore just create a ton of heat. I would opt for a larger turbo.

Question: What is the big deal about going in a straight line? I understand that you car is "fast" and that's the way to tell but these cars weren't made for straight lines IMO

es

Because the stock twins blow hot air at 16PSI!

Also, anyone who is planning on running oxide needs to install a decent fuel pump. No Denso's unless that's just a primary in a series pump config.

95R2-89TII Ground Zero

I have the Cosmo 20B pump..and the injectors are RC. The stock twins only create boost to a certain level, then passing the efficiency range. I know what your saying, and I agree, but if someone wants N2O then who am I to say its wrong.q

ErnieT

iTrader: (2)

Actually thats not totally true. Look at Ray Lochead. He's running 8's consistantly without NOS. Actually Ray runs only 27lbs of boost on his KKK turbo setup
Im not saying it doesn't give an edge, especially with the intake charge temps on a hot day, but its not a "must have". You can get by with a air/water intercooler and run more boost. If your the quick class you get a weight penalty for having turbo and Nitrous, so just running boost has its advantages too.

WhiteRXseven

i don't know all rules and etc, but if you are not
bracket racing, you can't win with out Nitrous.
Because everyone else is spraying.

I did feel it was unfair for me to be in that catagory,
but thats where i ended up.

So can you spray nitrous with stock injectors?? With a
upgraded fuelpump and stand alone fuel management,
like a pfc?

Btw, i like drag racing because its fun, and convenient.
I'll be more than happy to autoX, just let me know..

WhiteRXseven

So anybody ever fun without Nitrous, and
then With it??

Just curious how much faster it can make you.

Ernie-
What do you mean weight penalty??
Do they actually add lbs to your car?
or add time?

95R2-89TII Ground Zero

I'm going to soon. I'll let you know. The N2O is on the way.

ErnieT

iTrader: (2)

Yes, they make you add 100lbs to the car. And you'll need a very good ignition setup to ignite the Nitrous as well as a good fuel setup. You'll also need to take timing out and take some boost out to compestate for it. When you spray your boost will rise a few lbs anyways.

WhiteRXseven

So does that mean I need to upgrade,
Primaries and secondary injectors??
For secondaries, would 1300 be ok??
or are 1600's nessesarry. Plus a
Fuel rail? and Pressure regulator??
Do you have to get Hotter Spark plugs?

Can Demetrios set up a Nitrous system?
and Tune a PFC for it?

To be on the safe side, Ijust want to run 12psi
with Nitrous. Can you also rig up a Nitrous system
to also Spray to freeeze the intercooler before
an actual run, and then use during the run? Or
does it have to be repurged??

ErnieT

iTrader: (2)

Do you know what your asking for is going to cost you around $2000 or more for parts alone not counting any labor??? Zex nitrous kit will run almost $1000 by itself.
Call D if your serious about doing it.

jspecracer7

I like how you think Bryan!

...too bad that my 7's setup up primarily for drag racing

ttpowerd

Hey van, the car is almost back together. Just waiting on some injectors and my power fc which should be here within the week Can't wait to get some dyno tuning done so and blow the doors off some 'domestics'

WhiteRXseven

of all 18000 members..

Only ErnieT, knows anything about running Nitrous??

Come on guys, stop being lazy and post, any tips, advice or hints???

Damn didn't realize Nitrous systems cost so much.
BUT, its still cheaper than pulling my motor out,
rebuild, port job and reinstall..