1.3maxhp

how do you think the rx-7 will do in a race from a roll and a 1/4 agianst the new cobra? This things seems like it would be fast!

3isacharm

stock for stock the 7 would get beat, plain and simple.

brads

i dont think so. its according to the driver. i watched one run 9.6 in the 1/8th mile consistently last night. not to impressive, if you ask me.

JoeD

Well if you are gonna put it that way, then a Honda Civic will beat a Ferrari 360 Modena. What's your point?

Given drivers of similar capabilities, the new Cobra will hand any stock RX-7 up to 98 its *** in any measurable straight-line acceleration test. The 99+ RX-7 might give it a close run, but it's not faster.

wishbanzai

JoeD,
Why are you on an RX-7 forum?

kwikrx7

I wonder that myself sometimes. The 03 Cobra given even drivers would spank a stock FD in every acceleration test there is. Can't deny that. Seems like Ford finally came out with a Camaro-eater. It's a little late now though.

As for JoeD I think he drives his parents Mercedes around. He wishes he had a FD so he can pull his parents new SL 55.

dr0x

It can spank a FD sure.... But I have more faith in the FD once mods come on

$150FC

wtf? He tells the effective truth, and you give him **** about it?

The same reason I'm on a Ferarri forum, I guess. But an 03 Cobra will eat an FD's ***, I must say. There's no contest, stock for stock.

And beating a dead horse: You could put a Ferarri Enzo up against my '83 Volvo, and if it's all up to driver skill then there's a chance that I would win.

JoeD

Yup...i tell it like it is, and i get ****.

I guess stating the fact that an 03 Cobra is faster than RX-7s makes me an RX-7-hater.

Uhhh...the SLK32 AMG will get its *** handed to it by a Z06. I must be an SLK32-hater.

Aristo

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Modded FDs that can hang with a 480 rwhp bolt-on Cobra will be faaaaar and few between.

Mr. Stock

OFF TOPIC but the above doesn't answer the question. Why are you on the RX7 Forum? Inquiring minds want to know.

the_glass_man

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Um, I don't think so. Maybe you forget that the Cobra is close to 1,000 lbs heavier???
A 3,800 lbs (with driver) coupe making 480 rwhp should put the cobra in low to mid 11's.
An FD would only need 350-380 rwhp to keep up or beat that. With a better final ratio and hp/weight ratio it doesn't really matter.
So a good bolt on FD could keep right up with a bolt on Cobra.

twiztedjeckel

jesus, JoeD, just go away or buy an RX-7 so we don't all completly hate you would ya. ok so i'm sure we'd still hate you but atleast you'd have half a reason to be on here.

Flybye

I guess this is why I see FDs pull an 11.6, then go to a dyno and pull 342 rwhp.

Let's not even go into aerodynamics. When was it like in 98 that R&T or the other mag that had to completly tape up the front end of a Cobra JUST so that it could reach the top speed of an Volvo 850 Turbo IMO opinion, the new cobra is less aerodynamic. It has larger USELESS openions that all they do is trap air. I'd like to see what a modded 03 Cobra will top out at against a modded FD. Oh, that same 342rwhp guy reached 180mph and the FD was STILL pulling....

Well, GM & Ford finally beat the FD. It took GM about 8 years with the Z06 and ford finally did it within 10 years. I suppose, being that it took them THAT Long to come up with something good, we should give them SOME credit

Flybye

LOL it's true. The stock 03 Cobras pull high 12s. The best a stock FD has ever pulled was like a 13.5 or so. But hey, it took Ford 10 years, so we SHOULD give them some credit....

Let's turn the clocks back....
How did a 93 R1 do against a 93 cobra, a 93 C4 (Or should we compare the ZR1?), a 93 Trans Am, a 93 Z28. They didn't do very well (Except the $40k more ZR1)

Now lets say a 03 or 04 FE comes over with a 350hp 2600lb body. THAT will be interesting

Aristo

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I said 'far and few between'..you kind of proved my point Flybye, as I would say bolt-on FDs running mid-11s are indeed just that. These things are going to be trapping near 120 mph with bolt-ons...how many FDS will be doing that? Granted, they are quite a bit more piggish that Supras (like 3800 lbs), but still, it's hard to argue with that much HP.

1.3maxhp

I am really confused here. JoeD has over 5000 post on an rx-7 forum yet he doesnt own a rx7.........

On top of that he loves to talk about how godly Mercedes Benz's and how they sooo fast.

Isnt there a mercedes benz forum for you to make up stuff about?

J/K dude I dont even know you I thought I would just throw in a couple points for ***** and giggles.

JoeD

Agreed.

Thats one reason why I wont want to drive an 03 Cobra anytime soon. Give me an open highway and a fast car, and im taking it to 150+ to see how it is at that speed.

Take an 03 Cobra to 150+, and there is a good chance you will catch air. Thats why the top speed is limited so low, relative to its power and gearing. Its because of the **** for aerodynamics. Ford knows that if that car is taken above 150 mph that it all of a sudden becomes a death wish.

I'd like to take my car to 160 and back, and live to tell about it, thank you.

twiztedjeckel

so how's about you put mommy and daddy dearest's benzy back into the carport and get yourself a car, YOUR OWN CAR that is and go take it to 160. whether or not you actually make it back i guess we'll just have to read about in the obituaries.

oh yeah,and as i clearly stated above by mentioning to put the benz back in the car port, no Joe JOe does not have a rex

Mr. Stock

Get an FD3s and you can.

JoeD

You can in a lot of cars...but the Cobra is not one of them.

$150FC

Speaking of Cobras and 850 Turbos, I've been 150 in an 850 Turbo. So, not quite 160, but I've been to 150 and back and lived to tell the tale.

And it's really funny that they had to tape up the Cobra, although I've never heard that before, heh.

edit:
And we weren't stepping back ten years - we were comparing the 9 year old FD3S to the brand new '03 Cobra. Whether or not a '93 Cobra could beat a '93 RX-7 is completely irrelevant.

And you guys can't get shitty with me, because I own an RX-7. So there. Heh.

GsrSol

A stock 03 Cobra is rated at 385 flywheel and 3660 lbs and that does equal about a 12.8 in the 1/4 which is what they run. I don't know where you got 480 from.

http://car.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html

Those cars do NOT pull in 6th gear, you have to top it out in 5th. The guy I know that did 530rwhp had his up to 160mph and it could have done 170 max. This car is not made for high speed racing though.

ROTARYFDTT

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check this out. Depends on what your mods are. I ran one and this is how it turned out.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=123200

Aristo

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Unless the Cobra guys are full of crap, the 390 hp is underrated. Apparently they are dynoing stock at 360-380 rwhp and respond as well to bolt-ons as an FD or Supra, with 440-480 rwhp coming pretty cheaply (pulley, intake, exhaust, chip). I'm not saying I want one (I'll still take an FD anyday), but the dragracer or highway roll-on racer types out there will probably appreciate them.