HWYKING

Can we conduct a list of parts that everyone recommends newbies to start out with like for example someone should start off with
1) New intercooler or whatever

Reason being is I'm downgrading from a supra to an RX-7 this summer and I know its a totally different car and alot of people tell me you mod it differently like the stock ECU is **** and doesent respond well to mods or the stock cooling is shitty replace that first (intercooler radiator etc)

Is there any websites that have this info already I'm really sorry if this is a repost i searched for at least 30 mins trying to find this stuff.

1)When should I build my motor, and what does building my motor consist of.
2) What modification order should i go in (exh d/p intake etc)
3) What are some of the things that are no-nos like (Max boost and so on)

This might upset some of you but remember you were once a newbie too

***** Last thing - Is it really true that RX-7s make horrible Daily drivers? I plan on driving this thing from school to work every day so like 20 - 30 miles a day. I wrecked my supra so my parents said no more supras for you so I convinced them the RX-7 was only a 1.3 liter and slower then a civic (since its 1.6) So thats my biggest issue pretty much, am i gonna expect this thing to blow up on me at BPU levels?

Ahh whoops sorry for the supraterminology BPU = Basic Power Upgrades Bolt-ons like I/C exhaust cam gears etc.

curlybillbrosie

Youre not going to make many friends here by calling the rx7 a downgrade and if you are going to downgrade, maybe you should in fact get a civic. That way you can wreck an expendable car instead of an FD. Im not sure why you call it a downgrade but the rx7 is inarguably a true sports car whereas for the supra, it is more debatable,.

rxrotary2_7

dont ever say that again on this board. we dont use that frikin word! BPU... aggghhh...

sounds like 30 minutes was not enough search time for you. look around some more. oh and maybe dont use "BPU" in your search words.

KoalaFD

iTrader: (12)

It's not the fact that you're a newbie that upsets me; it's the fact that you're a fool.

Do some more research than 30 minutes worth.

www.scuderiaciriani.com
Here's some light reading material for you.

maxcooper

You certainly aren't generating the feelings of goodwill that will get answers to your questions with this statement: "downgrading from a supra to an RX-7".

There is already a sticky with links to sites that will answer all of your questions. You need to put in the time and do your own research. Searching on this forum will also yield very good results. Try "reliability mods" or "first mods" or something to get some useful threads.

-Max

1st to 3rd

Little piece of advice that most people don't know: When building up a BPU RX-7, do the cam gears first. It will save you a lot of hassle in the future.

ShortBusRiot

GoodfellaFD3S

iTrader: (213)

Not much, evidently. Darwinism shall soon run it's course with you, my friend. Please go crash a V6 automatic Mustang and stay away from the FDs. Thanks .

keynote22

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/search...by=&sortorder=

xstacy7

wow managed 3 posts before he complains about n00bs hahahaha

r0t0r-rooter

Street King

So fuggin

BPU = Don't you have to pay Tozer his royalties for saying BPU? If so I'am sending him this link and a crack team of lawyers!

All the questions you asked were n00b questions too.

xstacy7

Snook

iTrader: (12)

a supra is like a lexus with twin turbos
it weighs almost 2 tons has a couch for a backseat and put out as much power with a 3 liter was we can with less than half of that a 1.3 liter
yeah real pure sports car design there not to mention its ugly as **** and good luck finding one with a manual transmission because they are all auto for a reason

Kiflin

Last I checked bpu was basic performance upgrade... not power...

And going from a supra to a fd is not downgrading. For one, the fd is lighter, has a engine more capable of producing power, and is a better platform. The rotary has 1/3 less moving parts and weighs 40% less than a piston engine (those two figures may have to be switched =P). The rotary engine also producces 177 hp per litre (renesis) where as the best piston engine does not even touch that figure.

Save the faulty apex seals, the rotary engine in the right hands is more reliable than a piston engine will ever be.

Maybe you should downgrave to a civic or a integra. We don't need people like you driving fd's.

paw140

Not that I'm defending the moronic newbie, but you are so completey wrong here. A 13B capable of producing more power than a Supra engine??? And MORE reliable? What have you been smoking?

RonKMiller

911GT2

Have you forgotten the N/A 13B's that go 200k mi. + with little to no maintainence. Yes, reliability goes down with turbos, but even single turbo 2nd gens can go a long time without much user help.

Apex seals are not at fault here, twin turbos are. It the control system of them, and the heat produced by them that give thr FD its reliability issues. And apex seals? Those usually blow becuase of leaning out, which is again, the owners fault (check my sig, I KNOW)

jpandes

I bet this guy abandons this screen name and creates a new one. If he ever comes back. He's probably on his supra board saying that all rx7 guys are dicks...LOL

Street King

Ron your avatar is funny as hell yet very offensive to me.

HAHA!

paw140

I'm not disputing the reliability of NA rotaries. Everyone knows they are essentially bulletproof. Kiflin stated (or implied) that 13B's are capable of higher horsepower and greater reliability than a Supra engine. That is just completely ridiculous, as just about every educated FD owner knows.

IrishDawg

yeh....every quesiton you asked is in the "noobs read" sticky already, look through the websites, they have full lists of sugested reliability mods, as well as a "upgrade order" to give you a start.

And wtf is with "momma said no more supras" WTF ur parents bought you a supra? and now they're buying you a fd? you're trying to tell me that they're not gonan notice kinda that the FD is a sports car just b ylooking it it. If i lost my mind and actually bough my kid (hypothetically, i'm only 17) a supra (or something liek it) and then they wrecked it, their new car woudl be a 4th gen civic hatch if anythign at all. PLease tell me that supra was a base and not a MKIV, because if they bought you a car like that they deserve to be smacked

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note: no, theres no noob to noob love here.

paw140

I think it's pretty obvious this guy is either a troll or a complete moron. He's just trying to start a bullshit thread.

Shinobi-X

This is still off. The 13B-REW is what Kiflin was talking about, and there is no way they are more reliable than the 2JZ-GTE. N/A Rotaries can last 200K-300k, with regular maintainence, and that is what I believe Kiflin missed.


And for the NooB, your intercooler is not the first place you want to start when building a strong FD...you're already on your way to leaning out your engine, and blowing it. You want to start with reliability mods and making sure the car is up to par. After this, you can build the car while paying attention to the fuel system with careful tuning.

Downgrading is not the correct term either, seeing as how you are going from one car that is relatively easy to build, to another that requires FAR more attention to detail. Rather than asking for a layout of what the FD should consist of, it would do you better to research the RX-7 before you destroy another one. Chances are, if you wrecked your Supra, you will most definately wreck a 7, or blow one up with your approach.

jdhuegel1

Classic thread. Classic I tell ya. Jeez.