kronikroller

I have a fd in my driveway that I am considering purchasing... It is kinda messed up and I need peoples opinions on what I should pay. Here is the lo down: 55000 miles on car
3000 on engine
apexi intake/exhaust/ avcr
hks dp
fluidline radiator

There is an oil leak im not sure from what tho its not too bad, the tranny grinds 5th, slight boost leak and creep(seems to only leak in 1 and 2 gear)


Moderate body damage including the left tailight housing/quater panel rebuilt with bondo, lightly dented fender, cracked front bumper and dented rear hatch(pushed in 1 inch above key hole) + a bunch of dings here and there

Also the car was repainted white but the engine bay left red. The paint is poor in some areas and there seems to be lots of overspray.

Interior is dirty with some broken pieces including driver door panel and windsheild vent. driver seat is badly torn. Passanger window works intermitently.

Please give me your take its ok if your not sure...

kronikroller

Oh yea, its a 94 touring model if that makes a diff

vel525

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do you have any pics? doesn't sound like the car was taken care of that well.

Engberg

i'd buy for 2K how much is he asking?

HeatTreated

Doesnt seem like anything major to fix.
If it was me I would make sure I got a good deal for a paint job & interior fixup after the purchase.
Mods never mean much on a used car for sale, so basically that car isnt in great condition but the mileage isnt bad.. 11k~12k and put a nice $3k paint job into it with another $1k of a few reliablitly mods and misc. things to fix up the probs.

rynberg

Bwahahaha, are you smoking crack?

Fixing up the interior and exterior will cost FAR MORE than replacing an engine or turbos (or maybe even both).

If it's done right, that body work and repaint sounds like at least $5-6k (it would be a lot more in Cali). Interior pieces are extremely expensive to replace unless he can find good deals on used pieces people are selling.

Since he's having boost issues, that will require troubleshooting. The car blew a motor at only 52k so who knows the condition of the existing "new" motor....

The main issue I would have is that the car was obviously abused and you don't know for sure what else was not fixed or was fixed half-***.

I wouldn't pay more than $4-5k personally.

HeatTreated

buahahaha, Yeah Im smoking crack
dumbass.

Read whats wrong with the interior.
" some broken pieces including driver door panel and windsheild vent. driver seat is badly torn. Passanger window works intermitently."
That windshiled vent and door panel are going to be crazy expensive huh?!

And the engine has only 3k miles on it! Assuming nothings wrong there and like most shady remans, then he wont need an engine like you think he will.

Where I live you can get a great paint job from the local respectable place for $3k.

There are blown engine FDs going for $6k~$7k easy. with decent bodys

charliegt

Every part on these cars is very expensive. The windshield vent is 3 pieces, 2 of which are about $32 each. So you are looking at between $60-70 just for those. Of course, that isn't very much by itself but everything ads up very quickly. Make sure that you know all the parts you are going to need to replace BEFORE you buy it. You can find some very good deals here on the forum on used parts. Of course, if the car hasn't been cared for then it might be worth looking elsewhere. 94s are generally more expensive because there were only about 3,400 of them brought over. 95s are even more because there were only about 500 of those. So the resale value of a 94 should be higher than that of a 93 in similar condition.

-Charlie

apneablue

I dunno...For me with my schedule and everything I'd much rather buy something I don't have to jack with that much. Maybe a little touch up here and there. But if I have to spend too much time and money into making it nice again then I'd look elsewhere....I bought a mint FD with original everything and I spend so much time on mods that I couldn't imagine having to mess with the interior and exterior. But then again, it's kind of up to you and how much time and money you want to pour into it..

For a trashed out FD that needs engine and turbo work but still runs I would probably pay between 7-8k...but then it's a 94 of maybe bump it up to 9k

Friend of mine just paid 5.5k for a body minus the tranny and engine...93... the body needs minor work, and the interior needs also some little things like some replaced plastic...Don't know if this would give you something to work from

rynberg

He said there were broken pieces including those...FYI, a new door panel is $1k from Mazda. Trying to find an entire used panel isn't that easy. A used driver's seat in good condition is $250. Etc, etc.

That's a pretty dumb assumption since the previous owner blew the last one at only 52k. The point is that the car was obviously very poorly maintained. I would have doubts about the new motor/install.

Good for you. Now add 25-35% to that because he lives in New York. And then start adding in the costs to fix all the body damage he has -- new taillight housing, new rear fender, new front bumper, etc. BTW, just those 3 things come to over $1400 for the parts (discount, not list) alone, let alone the labor. So that's up to $5k, even in your neck of the woods....

I guess you said that just to prove my point? As I said, returning an abused car to good shape will cost more than replacing the motor.

You still want to call me a dumbass?

HeatTreated

Yes, DUMBASS.

rynberg

Very mature. The typical response of someone who's been proven wrong but won't admit it.

Instead of resorting to childish name calling, why don't you explain in accurate detail how anything I said is not true or how it makes me look like a dumbass. If I am wrong in anything I've said in this thread, I'll own up to it.

Shinobi-X

With the amount of work that will be needed to diagnose the problems alone, assuming you are going to try this yourself, I wouldn't buy this car for anything above 6Kish. I personally bought my current FD for 9K with a bit of minor problems, and even with those, and my own work put in, it easily has the potential to become an expensive restoration project that rynberg has described. Keep in mind, that this will also cut into your time driving the car (enjoying your new purchase), and you may also become frustrated, further putting off your feelings of a comfortable purchase- which is something most people overlook when looking at price alone. I personally was going to swap bad parts with newer/upgraded ones anyway, so it didn't bother me as much, but depending on what or where you want your car to be down the line, you may want to look at some better options. Money spent well in the first place will leave you better off, and happier in the longrun.

HeatTreated