sanfordman

First of all let me say that if this is in the wrong forum feel free to move me.

Saying that let me begin. There is a guy who has a 300 whp wrx that is smoke (he might be running as high as 375whp). I have heard that he ran a 750cc motorcycle over a short distance and won 4 times in a row. He talks alot of **** and needs to have his mouth shut, which I hope to do. He only races over short distances (which is an unfair advantage). But my question is this, how much power should I run at, over what distance starting from a stop should we run to, and how should I get off the line with the least amount of distance between us (as he will definatly jump me) for me to make him eat his ****.

My mods: stock engine, to4s turbo (.96), apexi FMIC, 1600cc's and 850cc's, intake,pulleys, fuel pump, 3 inches all the way out the back, power fc. I am currently running 12 psi and my mechanic thinks I am putting ~340whp. I am bumping up boost to anywhere from 16-20 psi for the race. I will prolly run 20psi. Engine runs really strong and I have 285 g force kd-w's on the back.

Gotta make a good showing for us rotorheads, and god do I hate wrx's . As always thanks for the advice fellas.-B

3isacharm

there is no way that you will be able to keep up with a modded wrx off of the line, especially with a single on your car. the fd is way too light especially when you are pushing a decent amount of power to keep up with an all wheel drive car off of the line. its just one of those facts that we have to face. I would say that your only chance to keep up with him off the line would be to go and but some drag radials and drop it from 5 grand and hope that nothing breaks.

911GT2

I sure as hell hope you have the tuning to keep up with 20 psi. If you're currently tuned for 12 psi, and just turn up the boost to 20, you'll be in big trouble really fast.

That being said, if you can keep it hooked up you should be able to catch the scooby in a 1/4 mile, but in a short enough distance, he'll have you every time.

weblair24

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Exactly what I was thinking.

volley1

Is it just me or what? The fd is ten years old and it looks a million times better than the wrx or the lancer evo. What the hell is wrong with these auto designers that they design these cars to look like crap. The Mazda 6 is a better looking car than the wrx or the lancer evo. Just a thought.

rx713bt

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That guy on the 750cc bike must not know how to ride. A modern 750cc can do 0-60 in less than 3 seconds which is faster than any WRX that I know of.

damaged-g00ds

Yeah agreed, the chances of you wining off the line are quite slim due to the fact its AWD, those are blitz if the guy knows how to launch n all, but you can leap frog him if u have enough power and you launch is perfect!

I say make us proud but dont break your baby doing it

ROTARYFDTT

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Well I don't think anyone is taking into account the drivetrain strength of the STI and the potential issues involved with launching an AWD car with that power. Launching a claimed 375HP to the wheels is going to put some SERIOUS strain on the drivetrain during a hard launch. I don't know how well the drivetrain is built on the new STIs but its for damn sure that launching an AWD car hard with that amount of HP could cause some issues......not to mention Subaru's little problem with making trannies that don’t hold up well to excessive power and abuse. Although I hear the STIs tranny was built to eliminate those concerns.

But I do not know enough about STIs to fully comment on the issue, just throwing in some food for thought.

So with that in mind, he may have to somewhat "baby" the launch to avoid breaking things. Assuming you guys go from a dig, which I would try to avoid. Or attempt to compromise, say that if you want go from a stop we are going to go till 120ish if possible. He can have his AWD launch and you can have your top end pull.

rynberg

So you're driving around in a untuned single turbo? I presume that you are untuned based on the fact that you have no idea how much power you are making. Also, since the stock MAP sensor and PFC settings only read up until about 16 (maybe 17) psi accurately, I wouldn't be going above that. I think it's pretty stupid to risk blowing a motor just to try to beat some guy.

In any case, a TO4S FD should lay waste to a modded WRX, if you run to a decent speed. Your much better power-to-weight (and drag-to-weight) and more efficient drivetrain should easily make up any reasonable horsepower difference.

Fish

RotaryFDTT, the STi's have some very strong drivetrain parts. They can withstand a lot of punishment before they break. Launching at 5-6000rpm everytime will do it though!

The normal drivetrain on these can deal with circa 4-450BHP without problems.

Dan
UK RX7 Owner
UK Subaru Owner

Kiflin

Truth is most cars can take 7's off the line, but when we hit 3000 rpms.... zoom zoom.

allrotor93

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the car is tuned for the current 12psi because of his boost controller being broken. his car is tuned for a moderate 10.9 across the board. the tuner knows what he is doing. he would get it retuned for the 20 when he got a controller.

Kento

A common problem, yes. A 600 with the proper rider can toast a car charcoal black.

Jim Swantko

LOL - I know who you're talking about. His car is quick - but a tuned singled 7 will have no problems if you're putting down some good power. From a launch he will eat you alive... just make sure you go long enough to let your power make up for it.

BTW - His car is down due to a hurt tranny (2nd time mind you) - good luck!

3isacharm

well that proves ROTARYFDTT's theory

AbadR1

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You need to put a launching kit and some E.T. street tires. He might beat you off the line, but not for long. I think after the end of second gear you will catch up quick. Tell him to run to a 1/4, you should get him beat. Running 20psi, which I would not recommended would put you well over 400rwhp if tuned properly. Who cares about AWD, it is all about the driver, weight and power ratio of your car, oh yeah and some good tires.

Engberg

To make it fair, race him twice. Once from a stop...then from a rolling 30 mph start. You will whip him from the rolling start if you are in the right gear. The reason he races short distances is because of an unfair advantage..like you racing him 30-100. would a bike smoke a awd 375hp car in the 1/8, we dont know how short short is..

Sprockett

Sprockett

Race him yet?

SpiritR

Time to go out driving with slicks, and say "What up beeach?"

Riccardo

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I think with the correct tyres and traction control you should be at least very close even from a stand

Jim Swantko

I never said anything about STi's... the original post says nothing about STi's either. He has a WRX... NOT an STi... I have heard that the STi's drivetrains are quote a bit stronger.

BTW - he WON't baby the launch... trust me. He races to win.

Good luck.

Sprockett

Well, I was talking more about how Ryan said that the drivetrain would be under strain in a hard launch, then you said that it was broken for the second time....so basically, Ryan was right - which is what I was agreeing with.

But anyway, maybe he'll launch like a madman, and break the drivetrain during the race.....you'd think he'd learn a different way to launch after 2 drivetrain problems, and if he cared AT ALL about his car, he would baby the launch a bit. I don't know - I'm eager to hear the results of the race

sanfordman

Damn thats alot of post quick, you guys rock. I am getting a boost controller this week and getting it tuned for 20 this weekend. Hopefully we will go this weekend. Allrotor93 and me just got his kkk stage 2 turbo and street ported working late last night, so we are rolling capitol boulevard in raleigh this weekend with 2 stock looking single turbo rex's, both on 18x8 and 18x10's with big stickies . Hee hee hee.... I will definatly let you guys know what goes down this weekend. Apparently this wrx guy wont race for less than 2000$, but from what I hear he only races short distances which is bullshit . I will definatly only race if I get my advantage also (top-end) .Anybody else in a rex that wants to roll out with us friday and saturday email me at ncsurfin1@aol.com. -B

turbogarrett

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i have raced a couple wrx's from a dead stop. they get the jump and once they see you quickly reeling them in they'll let off and call it a win after one kid put on his hazards, after he let off at ~ 60, i followed him to a nice open on-ramp and by the top of 3rd he was so far back i don't know if he could see mine blinking
good luck and please get this on video!-garrett