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Old 09-30-02, 05:32 PM
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hello.. i curenty have a 2001 toyota celicagt and i am selling it...what ki want is either a supra tt which re waaaaaayyyy overpriced or a 3rd gen rx-7 becaus theyare more reasonable...i know these cars re rumored to not be very reliable..but i wan one badl...so heresthe deal...my boy has had a few fd's hes had pristie r1 with 10,000 origional miles oin it all stock and some modded ones...he keeps telling m that all rx-7's have problems...so i am wondering what kind of things hapne to ths car..i dont have vry deep poclets an thiswllbe y dailydrver becau ia in college now and need t to get to class...i never beat on my cars bt i like to hae some fun ith them like maybe once a month...he tells me that the belts ands pulleys always wear out all the time and e said on cold winters the ca is basically hard to drive becasue it idles sh*ty and he said the engine and turbes ant hold the boost..is this tru what he says..i am just windering wat u can do to keep this car running....i am not looking to mod it heavily a all..i always do normal maininence on my carslike oil changes very frequently and i keep up on all normal maintinence...so can someone tell me what i shopuld look out for when buyingoneor what i should expect if i own one that is a daily driver...i know that i should find one that had been taken care of very well...so let me know somehting good about these cars because everyday my hopes of ownuing one go down...ok please help..i did a search but could not find what i am loking for..thanx
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The 3rd gen is not a reliable car. There are some exceptions, but it is more racecar than grocery getter. If you buy the car, basic reliability mods are a must, downpipe, boost gauge, turbo timer, replace 1 million vacuum lines, ast tank removal, cooling, etc.. Then keep $4K just incase the engine and/or turbos go south.

It is probably one of the most memorable cars ever produced and a world-class performer, but it comes at a price. It is not the most economical car to buy, maintain or commute. But can you put a price on happiness?

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hey man thanx...what is an ast tank....also i will probably buy a car that has alot of that stuff already done to it....but do u know of naything about the cold winter thing with the carnot keeping the boost...what is the sigificnc f canging the downpipe and boost guage...also by cooling do u mean like front mount intercooler or do u mean radiator...do uj know of anythign with the belts and opulleys...if i get one that is in excellent shape or like 5000 miles on new trboes and mottor wht are the chances that this car will have problems if i drive it daily...sory for all the questions but i dont wanna get screwed over for trying o have fun....also do u thik a supra tt will be a betterchoice for me..

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http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/buying.html

BTW, any turbo-charged car is a handful for maintenance. Turbos fail on every car, it's just a fact of moving parts. If you are looking for something sporty with low maintenance, don't get a car with a turbo.
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Buying a 3rd gen is gonna cost ya. The cars are getting old, some are 9-10 yrs old. So be prepared to do some repairs and in many cases rebuilds($3-5k).

Check out this link: http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobi...od_pro_con.htm

It will give you a detailed write up on the more common mods that people do to their cars... Both reliability and bolt on power mods. I've got most of them...

You'll probably want to "supe-up" the car...But the real trick is not blowing it up! The cars are very tempermental. If you don't do things right and in the correct order..."boom!" or should I say "pop" then you need a new motor and $5 grand.

So read all that you can a save up some cash or apply for a high limit credit card and have fun if you buy the FD! It's a blast to drive, expensive to own. But, in my humble opinion, worth every penny! I've owned my car for 6.5 yrs and over eighty thousand miles and I still love the car!

3rd gen RX7 = Love heheheh
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so basically your saying that since i dont have deep pockets right now i shouldnt buy this car for a daily driver..i mean i have a no trbo carnow and it isnt fast enough..my family has had many very fast sports car ( ferrari maranello, 355 spyder,corvettes, and curently a 360 modena) my dadis doe buying me cars and i am on my own right ow...so i guess the supra would be a better coice..
venif i get a fd in opefrect working shape it still isnt reliable if i baby it...

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not true about deep pockets. i have maybe 500 bucks in the bank w/ no job. i've had my car for a year and a half now w/ no problems. i think if you take your time and spend a little more money on a fd w/ low miles you'll be okay. then of course you'll do the reliability mods. but in my honest opinion if you like the looks of both the supra and seven, i would go w/ a supra. my brother has a 94 so i know what it's like to drive them.
when getting a fd, you'll have to put a couple hunddred in just reliability mods alone. (dp, ast, fuel filter, hose job, etc). then once you start modding it you will need a computer according to the 3 rule mod.(this is debateable). my point is is that it takes alot of money to make hp. where as w/ a supra you can be in the 475-500 hp range w/o upgrading the computer or fuel and have a very reliable car as your daily driver. just my thoughts. nick
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I don't think the FD is a daily driver. I also have a 94 toyota 2WD pickup. That's a daily driver.

Why use up you mileage commuting? Enjoy it on the weekends when there is no traffic or at the track.
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The 7 is a good **** kicker car
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Don't get the car now. Wait until you graduate, and can afford the car, maitainance, and a daily driver. I daily drive my FD, and I am in college, and it can be a real pain in the ***. Look into getting something fun and reliable, like a miata.
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FD's arent that bad, if you can do your own stuff, it is worth it.
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finally someone that gives me hope..for a second there i thought i had noc hance of havng a badass car...i mean i've driven some badass cars but i want one of my own for once...one tht i can truly say is mine..instead of having poeple say" hey is that your ferari" lol and i gotta break down and say no...lol...well can someoen tell me what an ast is..and also i will be buyign a perfect condition fd...i live near KD rotary and i think im gonan try an get one throgh them..and what i need to know is that if i spend the extra cash will it be reliable where i can have confidence to drive it and not thin about if i race smeone once ina while if is gonan blow up...ok guys thanx for the insight..i oiuld buya supra bewcasue that is the ultimate highway racecarimo..but those freakin people want too muich damn money for thier supras..

ok i'll ask if got any other question...oh yeah..i wan tthis car for looks and handeling and i dont need a track all the time.i got some badass roads near me where i live..in coltsneck Nj...

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The maintenance isn't really that expensive but the downtime is pretty common, thats how I see it. I mean, if you get a nice running FD for $18,000 that already has the reliability mods done, then drive it daily for 5 years, I'd expect to spend $10,000 in that span tops. So, total outlay for 5 years plus car is $28,000. Thats the same as a nice Supra Turbo, not even counting maintenance (which granted is likely to be very little). So cost wise its really about the same. Now, if you start getting addicted to mods, skies the limit, but if you just want something fast and fun, its not that hard to keep things under control. However, the FD will spend a lot more time in the shop, so you'll need some alternate kind of transportation.
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First suggested upgrade: new keyboard! It is hard to understand what you are saying sometimes because of your horrendous typing.

The AST is the "air separator tank" and this plastic tank often splits and has caused overheating that ruined engines and even a few crashes over the years. You can replace it with a metal tank ("tank" makes it sound big, but it really isn't very large) or remove it entirely.

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