There are benefits and some downfalls of running non sequential. Check out these threads:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...non+sequential

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...non+sequential

 

hahaha....depends on the cash flow situation. I want ever so badly to strap a little to4s into my ride but I don't have that much money. I would rebuild with hurley 2mm race seals, street port, and while the engine is out replace the clutch and flywheel if needed. Then I would find some nice twins that will last you a while and go with them.

 

That's great advice ... Where would be a good place to look for used twins?

Thanks for the post!
SRR1

 

Thanks again! I'm reading those two threads now.

SRR1

 

My buddy just went though the same thing..

He decided to go totally stock. Cost him 8K.

He wanted total reliablilty

 

buwahaha....totally stock is not totally reliable.

 

Since when is twin turbo stock with all it's 60' of hoses that don't last and all the soleniods and acuators reliable. Single turbo and get rid of that crap. Plus you can run 15psi without taxing the turbos. 15psi is a little extreme for stock turbos.

Ken

 

hey bud, I said exactly what you just did. Reread my post and quote from the guy that thinks stock is reliable.

 

ttpowerd - I was just agreeing with you and giving some reasons why.

Ken

 

well, for the 14k,
motor rebuild w/porting 3500.00 (IF you do not need new housings and upgraded seals

single turbo kit = 3500~
fuel pump = 240~
injectors, rail, & **** = 500-1000~
ecu/stand-alone PFC/haltec = 1300-2500~
intercooler upgrade = 1500~
piping for intercooler = 100-200 if applicable
labor/installation and tuning = 2000+
motor mount (rear) = 225
fuel damper = 125~
are you gonna need a clutch & flywheel? yep 1000~
BOV = 200
radiator upgrade to make up for fmic? 400~

you see where this adds up so quickly.
i started thinking that a rebuild would be sufficient, but chose to do some other things while the car was apart, and the bill quickly went from 5500 >>> 9775.00

trust me, you'll be upside down whether or not you like it. i think that anyone else out there who has had to make a decision like yours will concur with me on this.
i find that the $$ i spend on my FD makes me happy, more than anything. so.... i am upside down..it is my hobby and my passion....and now i have 25K sunk into the car.....who needs a woman to **** you over.......when you have an rx7

 

I got by a little cheaper.

XS T04e turbo kit from group buy, about $2800,
GReddy SMIC 400+ci used - $800, Evans coolant instead of radiator upgrade. Used 1600cc injectors $600,
getting my AEM EMS ecu on a group buy. Piping for IC came with the GReddy SMIC. BOV came with the T04e kit. Did not upgrade my flywheel and already had a Centerforce clutch upgrade. My motor rebuild with street porting and Hurley seals and upgraded coolant seals cost me about $2,500.

Nothing wrong in my book to save a few dollars going with group buys and used parts.

Ken

 

definately not, these are just some prices that i averaged up b4 sending my car to pettit. i did not have the time or patience for the whole group buy thing.....although i will be looking for a single in a few months.....most likely a to4r....

 

The AEM system isn't commin out for awhile..they still have priority with the Supra and Eclipse before they finishe the FD units.....source is AEM engineer.

 

Ya, you are right, as of last week they told me 6-15-02 is still a firm date. I sure hope so.

Ken

 

Mine is being rebuilt by Marvelspeed right now.

I'm goin with:
street port
3mm seals
fluidyne rad.
injectors and rail
fuel pump
haltech e6k almost for sure

basically setting it up for a single someday

 

Ya, you're right, last week they told me 6-15-02 is still a firm delivery date. I sure hope so.

Ken

 

Why have you chosen to go with the AEM ecu Ken?

 

If you want to hear opinions on apexi pfc and the aem look here: https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=75618
not a bad discussion but as you can see, most prefer apexi's unit.

 

I read the manuals and Dave at KDR says it's awesome.

If you want a copy go to the AEM thread.

Ken

 

how much will it cost?

 

There's a group buy on the forum. Don't know cost yet. Probably around $1250.

Ken

 

alright help a newbie out.... so from all those options listed... how much whats the total damage for each $?? taking into consideration that labor will be free

 

A. not sure (if anyone knows ... please post it)
B. around $5500 give or take some
C. $2500 at most
D. -hahah- prob 9-10 grand

Even though, most of you voted for going streetport rebuild with single turbo .... i don't have the cash for that. It'd mean hitting up the bank for a loan and i'm not sure they'd give that much for me to indulge in my need for speed. -hehe- Be nice if they would.

 

Hey man, here is what I would do if you dont want to break the bank.

Get a motor from someone, I like BNRsupercars.com but you can check with who ever. Get a motor for around 3K with 2mm hurley seals and a streetport.

Get some rebuilt twins from Brian at BNR for less than $800. He replaces everything in his turbos not just the worn items like most places do and since he's a small company his prices are still really good.

$3800 for a bad *** motor with the stock twins. Set them up nonseq cause it'll be easier on the install and more reliable. Brian will do the nonseq weld work on the twins pretty cheap, I think it adds like $100 or less. So there ya go $3900 plus labor if you cant do it for a rock solid awsome set up.

Sounds like a plan to me lol

Oh yea, dont go Jspec, there isnt a real difference and most of the motors that come over here from Japan are total crap and need rebuild......reguardless of what they tell you. The majority of them have been sitting outside in a junkyard for years. In my opinion its a total gimick that people get cought up in so they can have a "JSpec" motor. I've seen 3 myself and have talked to others that have seen them as well and everyone basically had the same opinion. You'll pay for the JSpec motor then pay to rebuild it.

Later,
STEPHEN

 

maybe that Bryan guy at bnr will hook you up with a combo deal like at mcdonalds or something! haha
take care,
B